If I recall, Audrey had maybe been blown to smithereens at the end of the series.
Yeah, I was alluding to this upthread when I said they had an explanation for why Pete is not there anymore... He and Audrey were inside the bank in the penultimate episode when it exploded, but when Lynch returned to do the final episode, he threw away the script, so inexplicably the bank explosion or Pete and Audrey's fate isn't even mentioned in the finale. The same applies to Ben Horne, who may or may not have been killed by Doc Hayward in a fight, but when the Doc appears later on, there's no mention of the fight or what happened to Ben. I know a lot of people laud the finale as the auteur's return of whatever, and it certainly has its moments, but IMO it was still a shitty thing for Lynch to totally ignore the fate of major characters in favour of 25 minutes of Red Room wankery.
As for the dead characters/actors, I'd say the most obvious choice to play Bob would be Ray Wise, no? That way there's be an excuse to bring him back, and it wouldn't feel so alienating to see Bob with a completely new face. And the could easily explain by saying that Bob like to take the face of his previous victim.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 07:19 (nine years ago) link
Bank scenes take place in the last episode.
Also:
I'm gonna see this just cos I would see almost anything David Lynch does, but I really thought the end of Season 2 was the best possible way to go out.
Totally. Cooper possessed by BOB was a perfect ending.
― the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 09:12 (nine years ago) link
seriously hoping for more more Chris Isaak as Agent Chester Desmond. although i guess he's dead iirc.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 09:38 (nine years ago) link
or he's in the red room
― jbn, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 09:51 (nine years ago) link
is this the hot or not thread now or
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link
The fuck?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Peaks_(restaurant_chain)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118085/twin-peaks-foodie-breastaurant-how-it-compares-hooters
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link
mary jo deschanel was also a regular cast member
Rashida Jones' mom was a cast member, too! Peggy Lipton. I wonder if any other parents of sitcom staples were on Twin Peaks?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link
"breastaurant"
This is the most disgusting word.
― jmm, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
that he was distracted from TP by making the slop that was Wild at Heart is tragicomic, tho
Isn't this all a bit of a myth about TP? Something that people use to explain away the drop in quality in S2? I thought he'd already started to step away by midway through S1 and that Frost drove a lot of the actual writing. I don't think he was considerably less involved in mid-S2 as he was in the latter half of S1. And of course Lynch actually turns up onscreen in a chunk of S2.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
There's one of those Twin Peaks breastaurants around the corner from my work, but I've managed to avoid it so far.
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
Lawsuits[edit]In 2009, the parent company of Twin Peaks sued a competitor in a Texas Federal Court. The plaintiffs alleged their competitor planned to open a chain of competing "breastaurants" named "Northern Exposure" which used waitress uniforms similar to those of Twin Peaks.[11]
― kernel poo (am0n), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:42 (nine years ago) link
terrible, now if there were a One-Eyed Jack's chain....
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link
my sincere hope for this new series is that Lynch and Frost don't bother too much with picking back up on the various plot threads from the original series. I would much rather they use the freedom and budget afforded by a modern-day cable drama series to just go wild and make something much more in line with Lynch's film work stretched across 9 hours.
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
mary jo deschanel was also a regular cast memberRashida Jones' mom was a cast member, too! Peggy Lipton. I wonder if any other parents of sitcom staples were on Twin Peaks?― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Amber (daughter of Russ) Tamblyn is on Two and a Half Men
― Number None, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link
Miguel Ferrer's cousin George Clooney was on The Facts of Life
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:01 (nine years ago) link
and jose's his daddy
― clouds, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link
alas Jose was never spun into a Cyrano sitcom.
Jose's role in Otto Preminger's Whirlpool as a quack hypnotist is rich in acidic one-liners, a preview of Albert Rosenfeld's dry disdain if not his professional acumen.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
Has anyone made a Robocop/Twin Peaks mashup yet? Would be fun to splice in "Bitches, leave!" or whatever then Alfred wipes coke from his nose, exits the room to talk shit to Harry Truman.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
I think Laura's sunglasses are implicated in her behavioral shift.
― Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh shiiiit yeah i'd forgotten they were laura's sunglasses--she's always got them on or just taken them off when she's in Bad Girl Mode
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link
twang paeks
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
Isn't this all a bit of a myth about TP? Something that people use to explain away the drop in quality in S2? I thought he'd already started to step away by midway through S1 and that Frost drove a lot of the actual writing. I don't think he was considerably less involved in mid-S2 as he was in the latter half of S1.
Lynch was considerably less involved in S2 due to his work on Wild at Heart (underrated imo). He's talked about this before in various interviews.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
(apparently he was in the descendants? don't remember him in that at all)Ontkean didn't even have a speaking role! I assume his character must've been trimmed way down.― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Tuesday, October 7, 2014 7:12 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ontkean didn't even have a speaking role! I assume his character must've been trimmed way down.
― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Tuesday, October 7, 2014 7:12 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
there's a weird scene in the descendants where there are a few pointed reaction shots of Ontkean's character in close-up that really make it seem as though he had a more significant, speaking role that got trimmed out of the final cut. the shots that remain in the film are kind of jarring--how often do you get those kind of soulful reaction shots of someone who is essentially an extra?
ontkean lives in hawaii now so i assume he was cast as a local. i think he's been notably absent from nearly all of the retrospective twin peaks activities--perhaps because he lives in hawaii, perhaps because he just doesn't care, perhaps because there are some hard feelings there. i wouldn't blame him for the latter, since he got very little of the attention that maclachlan et al got. that's what you get for playing the straight man. as remarkable as the character that maclachlan created was, i do think that ontkean didn't get enough credit for creating a very believable and distinctive character.
flynn boyle wouldn't appear in Fire Walk with Me -- I've heard either because she was busy shooting another film or because she demanded too much money and they called her bluff (a la Crispin Glover in the Back to the Future sequels). as a result I think there was bad blood between her and Lynch. I'd be perfectly happy with a new season without her, but then again I think I'd be (potentially) happy with a new season without any of the original cast. I'm mostly happy to see Lynch in the director's chair again.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
I thought I'd read something about Lara Flynn Boyle not wanting to do the nude scene in FWWM.
― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link
really exciting that we're getting a new chapter of the twin peaks story after all these years. let's just hope it's better than mid season 2 of the first season though, huh fellas? talk about a drop in quality!
just my $0.02
― fuhgeddaboudit! (missingNO), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
I read that she ended up getting nekkid for another movie she did after FWWM came out. xp
― cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link
well the nude scenes in FWWM are of a certain... tone, you could say.
i imagine the whole "won't do nudity" thing, if it was ever brought up, was a cover for "i asked for too much money" or "i thought i could do better"
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link
I rewatched the pilot and first few episodes yesterday and I love how the show doesn't waste any time with skepticism. Cooper is on board with Twin Peaks' weirdness right away and vice-versa. No Scullys.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
Only Mulders.
― cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Lara Flynn Boyle and Kyle MacLachlan had dated throughout the show's run and then had a rough break up before FWWM.
She also was jealous of the relationship that the writers were suggesting between Audrey Horne and Dale Cooper, and had threatened to quit the show because of it.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
oh what a fun idea
twin peaks as mulder run amok
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
It would be amazing if Flynn Boyle came onboard for the revive and no overt todo was made in the show regarding her appearance. Donna has already had two faces, this could be the third.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
Ha I also watched the X-Files pilot the other day and it felt very Twin Peaks-y, mainly because they go to Washington (state) for their investigation.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link
someone photoshop this
http://www.thepaepae.com/wp-uploads/2012/02/three-faces-of-eve.jpg
xpost
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
Having only seen series 1 and FWWM, I don't remember most of these female characters. Were there lots of characters exclusive to series 2?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link
Who is the actress on the right of the rolling stone cover?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
Sherilynn Fenn was not in FWWM due to shooting conflicts with Gary Sinise's adaptation of Of Mice And Men (w/ Malkovich as Lenny).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
The actress is Madchen Amick, we don't meet her until the pilot episode.
― cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
I hope Bobby Briggs comes back. He was a hilarious character and very well acted.
(Now somebody's going to tell me that he died in one of the later S2 episodes that I haven't seen.)
― jmm, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
the guy who played major briggs died btw
as did the guy who played bob
and the guy who played the mayor
and the guy who played the giant (I think)
and the guy who played the old waiter (who is hank worden, and was over 90 years old at the time of filming IIRC)
they will all presumably be resurrected via CGI
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:05 (nine years ago) link
oh man I didn't know this. that is a bummer. great character.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
thank god Billy Zane is still alive
i think
― Number None, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link
RIP Don S. Davis (General Hammond, Major Briggs, Scully's father)
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
thank god Billy Zane is still alivei think
I hate to break it to you, but there is no God.
― cichleee suite (Leee), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
waaaaaaat i get so annoyed every time bobby is on screen
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link
i so lost interest in the leo subplot by the halfway point of 2
I thought so, too, but I checked the other day and he's still kicking.
― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
Just realized that post makes it sound like I have him chained in my basement.
― Certified Genious (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
Bobby was the best
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link
of the teenagers I'd rank em Audrey>Bobby>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everybody else