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It probably doesn't plumb as many insights about spelling-bees-as-American-cultural-phenomenon as it could. But for sheer entertainment value, it's hard to beat.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Having heard the soundtrack (thanks Arthur!), I have to say that the Folksmen's cover of "Start Me Up" is one of the best things I have ever heard.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

espn reaired the 1997 spelling bee the other night. i was drunk. i watched it, thus i should see that spelling movee!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 18:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

i'm pro-levy, but really pro-o'hara. she should really win an oscar for this performance. there's a really great dynamic between those two that i guess has been going on since the SCTV days, but it really unfolds here (and i'm not just talking about "the kiss").

i think fred willard is hilarious, but he's so over the top that guest was wise to only put a little bit of him in the film. too much would be too much. and we'll always have the dvd outtakes for that stuff.

we really oughta move this to I Love Film! there's not enough traffic there.

j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wonder how many ILXors are former spelling bee champs.

*raises hand*

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Everything in j fail's last post is completely OTM.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

really? what word did you win on?

(x-post)

slutsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't remember. I was 9. But I went on to the borough-wide spelling bee and lost on "license." I've taken pains to spell that word correctly EVER SINCE.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

The ultimate spelling bee drama:

http://www.snoopygift.com/books/1532.gif

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I finally saw this on Saturday. "The kiss" was very moving. The years together as performers and friends showed. The woman telling her porn star story had tears running down my face, as did the ROYGBIV song. I love that Guest's movies aren't excessively long, too.

Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Let's move the spelling bee chat where it belongs: Howard Scripps Spelling Bee

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...
I finally saw this movie; at first I thought Levy was pushing it for his character, but realized about half-way in that, rather than seeming an awkwardly-forced-performance, it was more of a natural-performance-of-an-EXTREMELY-awkward-character. Catherine O'Hara was so refreshing as usual too. I loved how they both did very well to play on the obvious still-lingering feelings between their characters. Plus that tension between them & the kiss I think made this more than just another Guest-mockumentary as there was a really huge emotional depth to that scene.

Other stuff I really really loved: the little "short-films" wink, Harry Shearer going into the Spanish Civil War history, the scene where the guy asked to take off his sweater and he got lectured about how he "wasn't ready yet", the smack-on-top-of-the-head, and Parker Posey being too corny to not be funny.

And I swear, at the rate Fred Willard keeps getting funnier in each Guest film he's in, I'm seriously gonna explode a testicle in whatever comes next. His suggestion to The New Main Street SIngers on what they should do on the show cracked my shit up!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 September 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

Wha' happened?

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 25 September 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Heh heh heh. Must get DVD.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 September 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Here in rainy London town i am awaiting this movie with feverish anticipation. I *hope* it's brilliant.

pete s, Wednesday, 31 December 2003 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

And I still must get DVD!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

wha' happened.

Chris 'Knuckle Deep' V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

i got the dvd for $10 at blockbuster (someone gave me a gift card for christmas). it's used, but in good enough shape for me!

maura (maura), Thursday, 1 January 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

And yay I got a copy used yesterday as well! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 January 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

I got a copy from my sister for X-mas. Maybe not classic, but definitely not a dud.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 2 January 2004 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

And having just watched it again, it holds up. Rah! The extras should be great fun.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago) link

roots & fruits.

cozenĀ” (Cozen), Friday, 2 January 2004 04:22 (twenty years ago) link

i hope everyone who wanted to see Spellbound got to, it's terrific.

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 2 January 2004 08:34 (twenty years ago) link

I finally saw A Mighty Wind. It's nowhere as good as the earlier films (little to no character development, more clip and interview heavy) but Eugene Levy, Fred Willard and the Folksmen (save for their PATHETIC final scene) are funny enough that I'm glad I saw it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 2 January 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

I thought on second viewing that the Folksmen's final scene was perfectly painful and specifically not-exactly-funny, a really good capturing of what happens when performances go completely wrong. I still think this is probably my favorite of the Guest mockumentaries, although I think I might also like Best in Show as much.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 2 January 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

Last night, I went to see Big Fish, which was as bad as I thought it would be. So, in an effort to get the bad taste out of our mouths, my best friend and I watched Guffman for like the zillionth time. Let me add that I'm not someone who watches movies over and over: there's probably only 20 or so movies that I've seen more than once, and under 10 that I've seen more than twice. But Guffman NEVER fails to make me laugh. At this point, it's like total comfort food for me.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 January 2004 21:14 (twenty years ago) link

I still maintain that Spellbound was a better Guest film than A Mighty Wind. On Slate, David Edelstein listed it as his #1.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 January 2004 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

I was disappointed in it, for many of the reasons listed above, but seriously, "Potato's in the Paddy Wagon" by the New Main Street Singers is probably one of the ten songs I've played the most this year. It's ridiculous and ridiculously catchy. Am I alone, here, in loving this song?

I may just dig out that New Christy Minstrels album I have in my closet...let's see...sweet jesus, does a band really need six guitars and three banjos?! It's like acoustic Branca. And they all are holding them up at greater-than-45-degree angles.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:20 (twenty years ago) link

Oh dear god.

http://www.thenewchristyminstrels.com/Discography/6302%20-%20In%20Person.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:26 (twenty years ago) link

"Country and Western Music Has a Message"? "Temperance and the Gutter Set"? "Personal Account Of Something Unique in Animal Husbandry"? "Bits and Pieces: Historical Chatter on Capital Punishment"? Is this the only group in history that simultaneously influenced Godspeed You Yawnsome Bastards and the Polyphonic Fuckfaces?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:28 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno, but "Temperance and the Gutter Set" does sound like the name of an unreleased Lifter Puller b-side.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago) link

I have now started an ILM thread to discuss the New Christy Minstrels conundrum.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

Ned, THAT'S THE ALBUM I HAVE!!!

Okay, I'm putting it on the stereo RIGHT NOW.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:50 (twenty years ago) link

Please report (on that other thread too).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 January 2004 07:03 (twenty years ago) link

I second the notion that Waiting For Guffman (and Spinal Tap too) only gets funnier with every viewing. and I hate to watch most movies more than once.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 3 January 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

Report on New Christy Minstrels here.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 4 January 2004 05:34 (twenty years ago) link

I saw this the other day. I thought Eugene Levy was wonderful, but...it's all about Ed Begley, Jr. for me. That 1 minute Yiddish speech is now one of my favorite scenes of all time.

Plus Parker Posey (who usually gets on my nerves) makes a ridiculously hot folk singer. Just...ridiculous.

I have never seen Guffman, nor do I know anything about it, but I will make sure to seek it out.

That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:32 (twenty years ago) link

That's funny -- that speech was one of the few sour notes for me!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

You are crazy!

That famous guy who won a prize (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
that speech was funny in an understated kind of way. Maybe jaymc hates it because he is facist.

I enjoyed A Mighty Wind a lot while not thinking it was the funniest of that type of film. The fact that the music was really nice and that the people's stories were interesting in and of themselves helped a lot.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 26 January 2004 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe jaymc hates it because he is facist.

Yes, that's it, I don't like the look of Ed Begley's face.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

your 'polite, well-argued responses' theory in action there, DV?

pete s, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

it was a failed attempt at humour, the clue being the mis-spelling of facism in the style of posters to indymedia.ie

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:56 (twenty years ago) link

Just seen this; really enjoyed it. A minor film maybe, but lovely all the same. The emotional resonance of it was crucial; very rueful and beautifully understated... great performance from O'Hara, and largely Levy.

The briefer performances were largely wonderful; as all say, Willard... Begley Jr... Bob Balaban the adorable Marty Di Bergi-esque New Yorker, neurotic and wonderful like prime Woody Allen. I loved it that in many ways he carried over apsects of his performance in "Gosford Park" (a tremendous film that).
Parker Posey; absurd and inexplicably very sexy, yes! ;)

I think overall I feel very charitable towards any defects and the small scale nature of it (compared with "Tap" it seemed so), as well, it entertained & amused constantly.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 4 February 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago) link

Parker Posey was the scary skinny pigtail girl? I don't remember her having any lines.

The scene with the ex-porn star describing her career with a wink and a smile was one of my favourite scenes, mostly because I recognise the sort of smiley-smiley character that's been accurately hit there.

There's quite a bit in the trailer that didn't turn up in the film. "I don't.. remember much.." "I love Mitch.. but (whistles)" "Excuse me, I must be full"

As with Best in Show, there are extra clips on the website.

Another vote for Mitch:fool Mickey:cool.

Although the pivotal song is quite good, I really loved the title song. It's a pretty obvious hark back to hippie/Dylan folk as agent of social change, but it's really really good at it.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 5 February 2004 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

Actually, the website is k-classic: you can see bits that didn't make it, and view the albums, including The Folksmens' electric album (and betrayal of their album title tradition) Saying Something. And hear "Blood on the Coal", about a train accident in a mine.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 5 February 2004 10:50 (twenty years ago) link

Parkey Posey had plenty of lines - and, while O'Hara's whistle-of- doolally didn't make it, I'm sure "I must be full" was in there.

Did you see a different edit?

Nothing to add to Tom May's assessment; a small joy in three-part harmony.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 February 2004 10:58 (twenty years ago) link

Actually I'm really certain "I must be full" wasn't in, because it's among the extra clips I've jsut watched.

What were PP's lines? The only other Main Street Singer I can remember apart from the Bohners is the one whose father was an Original Main Street singer, and I only remember that from the trailer (I'm aware she had at least one scene that started with that line, but I'm blanking on what it was).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 5 February 2004 11:08 (twenty years ago) link

Parker Posey explains how she was living on the streets (cue fabulously photogenic PP in B&W looking glam-wretched) and now how she's working with inner-city kids. The "I must be full" scene I will concede just because I can't distinguish between the trailer (which I saw maybe three days before the feature) and the film. Thought it was in there, though.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 5 February 2004 11:20 (twenty years ago) link

! The soundtrack has the Folksmen's version of 'Start Me Up'!

Okay, I'll go away now. The only other thing I can think of is that Guest and McKean occasionally aren't as funny as they think (or are whimsical where they could have been funny), but I could watch Harry Shearer all day.

Hey, maybe I'll go do that..

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 5 February 2004 11:35 (twenty years ago) link


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