ideology and trivia
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 November 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
Has there been discussion of that Lena Dunham/Lil Jon vote spot that ran recently? IDK if it's overtly racist, but something subtly rubbed me the wrong way about it, with the 'voters' being mostly white or at least college-y looking. Maybe it's just a spot narrowly targeted to that demographic and I'm reading too much into it, but it felt a little too much like Lil Jon was a prop.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
tbf when is Lil Jon not a prop
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
I think also it being lena dunham using him as a prop especially irked me
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
so fucking pissed off right now
http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3612199.shtml?cat=1
― There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 November 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link
http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2014/11/gang-sign-story-backfires-on-kstp/
― There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 November 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
Gang sign vs. The lindy england
― Οὖτις, Friday, 7 November 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
this station specializes in this shit....called up their news hotline to complain, they are so concerned about "welfare fraud" it has it's own goddamn menu option
https://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/kstp
― There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 November 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBLBxb29maw
Anti-Black Pete activists go to London dressed as Black Pete to record the response of people confronted with blackface. It will make fuck all the difference in the Netherlands probably but I applaud the responses. Oh, and they bump into Russell Brand by accident.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
New niece for me! So looking at baby clothes (and of course you should always dress babes up as animals) and I noticed this url. Why is 'hiphip' a tag here?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Infant-Halloween-Costumes-Baby-Romper-Jumpsuit-Animal-Cosplay-Onesie-Suit-Hiphop-Monkey-Guenon-Animal-Style0-3/2031844800.html
― Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
For the same reason I told everyone not to get my kids monkey stuff
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
I would back slowly away from that website. There may some cultural confusion with some of the Chinese retailers creating their own English translations, but
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-quality-cool-black-Monkey-boy-Mascot-Costume-Character-Halloween-Costumes-Fancy-Dress-Suit-Free-Shipping/32222574868.html
― pplains, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
Holy.
― Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Thursday, 13 November 2014 05:15 (nine years ago) link
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:50 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
... wat
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 14 November 2014 00:15 (nine years ago) link
anti-racists dress up as racists to prove ...
That it's racist. Point is, people in Netherlands don't consider it racist. They are not alone. In Denmark, we had a theater company doing an 'anti-racist' project where people would be put in blackface to learn about how it feels to be black. As one angry Swedish black man put in when they tried to take it to Sweden: 'If people want to know what being black feels like THEN ASK ME!!!'
There are still many Danes who thought it was an ok anti-racist project, even though it objectively pissed off a lot of black people.
― Frederik B, Friday, 14 November 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link
the didactic plebs who made the video chose well by going to a country where disfavour for explicit cartoon racism is perfectly compatible with structural racism possibly more acute than in the netherlands itself
― disconnected externalized and unrecognizable signifying structure (nakhchivan), Friday, 14 November 2014 00:25 (nine years ago) link
people would be put in blackface to learn about how it feels to be black
this is just so abysmally clueless that it is hard to comprehend. but then, it was done by theater people, so...
― oh no! must be the season of the rich (Aimless), Friday, 14 November 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link
the netherlands had a black national football team manager sixteen years ago whereas today a dutch manager being appointed by an english football team singlehandedly raised the proportion of black professional football managers in england to a healthy 3%
― disconnected externalized and unrecognizable signifying structure (nakhchivan), Friday, 14 November 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link
http://black-face.com/blackface-world.htm
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 November 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link
an 'anti-racist' project where people would be put in blackface to learn about how it feels to be black.
This is hilarious.
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link
"I was greeted with scorn and ugly looks wherever I went. Power to the People."
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:21 (nine years ago) link
That's funny, I remember the controversy. We grew up in such a liberal, PC area that it was waaay bad to eat at Sambo's. I had to eat there once and was mortified, afraid my super liberal church would get wind of it, my civil rights cred tarnished. It was like a Denny's. then Denny's got reamed for discrimination. With the Aunt Jemima suit and all, maybe pancakes are hopelessly racist.
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Saturday, October 25, 2014 5:57 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m26bhdAEZf1qc5s5co1_250.gif
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:36 (nine years ago) link
sry to interrupt i haven't read this thread in a month and that post was too much
if it was a quote-unquote politically correct area there would be no "Sambo's" it is true
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
"So we walk into Sambo's wearing our blackface makeup, and the manager wouldn't seat us! Not even at the counter!"
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link
That is bullshit, but do keep up with the hostility. No one ever lived in a politically correct area. Do go on with your strange obsessions. It's the truth, your poor logic won't change it. You're transparent, and I'm not afraid of you. I've had real-life KKK members. Do try to be one tenth as scary.
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:02 (nine years ago) link
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link
This thread has had many posts where I have to just sit back and blink for a few minutes like I'm not sure if we've collectedly decided to just ignore them or
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link
baiting I M Losted is a bad look tho
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link
yeah i'm done
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:11 (nine years ago) link
You're transparent, and I'm not afraid of you.
Did you just call me a ghost?
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 02:14 (nine years ago) link
"politically correct"2014
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Black_Like_Me.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me
― nickn, Friday, 14 November 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link
And the movie version. (Seen the movie, never read the book.)
http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/6061/445058_020.jpg
― nickn, Friday, 14 November 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link
^ yeah that's common knowledge right? i read about it several times in grade school (always laudatory)
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 04:09 (nine years ago) link
Popular in its day, and very well received. But James Whitmore passing as black was o_O to me even in the early 70s.
― nickn, Friday, 14 November 2014 04:12 (nine years ago) link
it provided a great cory matthews zinger
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 14 November 2014 04:18 (nine years ago) link
I read the book. He supposedly took a bunch of tanning pills.
Which you'd think every white theater major would've tried by now.
― pplains, Friday, 14 November 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/819dgLLVR7L._SL1500_.jpg
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― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
honestly never occurred to me but i guess so
― So beautiful cow (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Haha wow how has this never occurred to me
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 15 November 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
wait srsly that has never occurred to you guys, dang
― gbx, Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
when i was a kid, I made my own othello board out of wood and painted bingo chips http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
ha holy shit
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
The name was selected as a reference to the Shakespearean play Othello, the Moor of Venice, referring to the conflict between the Moor Othello and Iago, and more controversially, to the unfolding drama between Othello, who is black, and Desdemona, who is white. The green color of the board is inspired by the image of the general Othello, valiantly leading his battle in a green field. It can also be likened to a jealousy competition (jealousy being the central theme in Shakespeare's play), since players engulf the pieces of the opponent, thereby turning them to their possession.
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
source links to a time article behind a paywall
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 15 November 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
More on Zwarte Piet, 90 people were arrested in Gouda for protesting in a non-designated zone yesterday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30069240
The Gouda authorities introduced other coloured Petes, including a Cheese Pete, this year
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Sunday, 16 November 2014 10:00 (nine years ago) link
Yup. Right wing media crying wolf saying a children's party has been ruined forever. Death threats to people who want to change the tradition. A former (social democrat) MP actually denied to shake my hand a couple of weeks back because I've published op-ed's about how we need to get rid of this blackface tradition.At the other end I had friends of mine arrested, simply for BEING there and being black. Black people were seen as suspect simply because of the color of their skin.
Meanwhile we have a PM, Cameron's best friend Rutte, saying 'Pete is black because he is black, it's a tradition, children's party' etc. What a fucking shambles. Take away our healthcare, let banks dupe you, it's all no problem. But you want to change a racist blackface tradition? Get out of this country! That's the tendency in this 'tolerant' backwards country. Death threats are through the roof. When football player Leroy Fer shared a photo on Instagram this weekend he gets dozens of comments calling him monkey, black pete etc. The attack on black Pete brings out the blatant racism that is virile in this fucking country.
These are our culture wars, but we *will* win. This racist blackface tradition WILL go.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Sunday, 16 November 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
a MP knowing who you are seems like a pretty good humblebrag
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Monday, 17 November 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link