two women renew Bill Cosby sexual abuse allegations in Newsweek interviews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDsa4uDM3zU

there just isn't a connection between putting this stuff in your art and committing crimes like this. i mean, there is, but it's not causal. the big confounding variable is, it's ingrained in the culture. putting out someone's artistic history as evidence of guilt is an attractive kind of a sidestep from "the problem is in the culture" toward, like, the kind of villainization that serves to absolve ourselves, the subject. it takes a specific person / collection of experiences / traumas etc. to enact this absolution and these people always end up being the sacrificial lamb so we can keep on moving forward as is without questioning or at least being more aware of these deep beliefs around us.

and of course these discussions about x y z who did something similar are always splitting hairs because these are prevalent, mainstream attitudes and it's a matter of defining when and where it is acceptable/unacceptable every time.

Remember when rock stars, actors and other celebrities used to boast of their vast sexual conquests, and then more or less stopped?

there can be a connection, I just agree with Whiney that there's not really one here and that Cosby's leaning on that sketch back in the day really does make him look like a relic in 2014 xp

Like, with Magic Johnson? xp

The content of bits performed by some well-regarded comedy figures of the '60s and '70s sounds pretty gross these days, but that was "pre-liberation" culture, hmmm? (There's a bit on the first 2000 Year-Old Man album, I think, where Mel Brooks plays an Italian auteur whose new film is titled Rape... albeit there's more of a distanced, satirical bent to it; oh those licentious Europeans.)

I think part of his earlier stuff circulating now is the group consciousness trying to wash the idea that he's Dr. Cliff Huxtable out of their head.

It definitely helps.

definitely glad that sort of commonplace sleazy grey area seems to be less of a trade secret now. xp

Value of Coogi sweaters is cratering

lol i wondered if whiney was getting upset because late '80s hip-hop was in the line of fire

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0wa79gQfw1r91f2jo1_500.gif

ban mike d

when people have a hard time believing a man accused of drugging more than a dozen women for his sexual pleasure could possibly do such a thing, i think it's more than fair to acknowledge that he made such a fantasy part of his material over multiple decades. that some people are reporting the information crassly doesn't make it beneath comment.

beneath consideration, rather

btw also he's never been an actual medical doctor so he shouldn't be administering any drugs

sorry, that wasn't appropriate, but it came to mind

i see janice dickinson is back in the news

The first time I read about Spanish Fly it was trying to read all of Snopes at age 13 and finding the most terrifying one of all: "After a young man slips his date an aphrodisiac and leaves her alone in the car, he returns to find that she has impaled herself on the stick shift handle in a sexual frenzy."

Worse than hook hand, calls inside in your house, peanut butter dog, lobster egg vagina, anything. I was also freaked out later when I learned actual Spanish Fly is just an extreme skin irritant. So the idea is to make you want to fuck the itch away?? Awful.

never heard that one before, wow

peanut butter dog! my friend knew a guy who was in that very basement for the surprise party.

one of the rumors about the death of lucretius is that he died from taking too much spanish fly

Cosby was always sus. I'm shocked at how many ppl here are shocked. i didn't grow up with his show, but he seemed out of touch and nasty and mean-spirited in public imo (like all the stuff about what young black men should do/wear/say/etc)

I hate to think this, but I'd have been so much happier if this had all been about a surprise party for Bill Cosby that featured peanut butter balls.

i learned about spanish fly from beavis and butthead

someone please to explain peanut butter dog for the Uk crew?

omar little's friend knew a guy who attended a surprise party in a basement. at that party was peanut butter dog. he was never seen again.

http://www.snopes.com/risque/animals/peanutbutter.asp

man those dogs will lick peanut butter off anything

yeah licking a pussy?
yuck

I kid

i thought this was somehow connected to the bacon-burger-dog off of Cosby Show fame.

Cosby was always sus. I'm shocked at how many ppl here are shocked. i didn't grow up with his show, but he seemed out of touch and nasty and mean-spirited in public imo (like all the stuff about what young black men should do/wear/say/etc)

― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah how come no one made the logical jump from 'mean spirited' to 'rapist'

we need to start looking into every old person who doesn't like rap, very sus

http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/netflix-pulls-bill-cosby-special-amid-rape-allegations-1201359886/

This is pretty much like the Savile thing:

Some people know of previous, some people are more "I always thought he was a bit (etc)" without actual evidence.

There was a fair bit of discussion between his death and his excommunication, over on the "Saville is alive" thread, about certain suspicions..

Er, no there wasn't.

insane how that official comment from his people over the weekend, has since had to be clarified and now has been deleted by the same people. i wonder if the same people were behind the 'Meme me!' tweets, also since deleted.

Reading off that Netflix article, Janice Dickinson comes out:
http://www.etonline.com/news/154076_janice_dickinson_details_alleged_bill_cosby_sexual_assault/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/19/don-lemon-bill-cosby-rape-accuser-bite-oral-sex_n_6184618.html

Uhhhhhh

brb establishing kickstarter to fund r&d for a rocket we can strap don lemon to and then fire into the sun

the meme me backfire thing was a textbook misunderstanding contemporary internet culture.

lmao @ people thinking that people are bringing up the spanish fly bit as "evidence"

first time I ever heard the phrase:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41W1ZS5PKZL.jpg

NBC scraps series in development. He has a standup gig in Melbourne, FL on Friday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/19/bill-cosby-nbc-show_n_6186498.html

is the fact that something is referenced in 80s beastie boys lyrics really supposed to help

I'm still kinda surprised Janice Dickinson was the tipping point

thought this was good

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/11/the-cosby-show/382891/

wait, how was janice dickinson the tipping point? didnt her story just come out in the past couple days

i mean leading to his Netflix and NBC shows getting cancelled today

i suspect that specific account didn't set anything off; also Netflix was yesterday.

re: spanish fly

A friend of mine in middle school told me once that he found "spanish fly" in his dad's medicine cabinet. I think he was under the impression that it was like a magic something-or-other dudes take to make them irresistible to women. "So what happened?" I asked. "Nothing," he replied. "I took a few. They just gave me burps that tasted like tuna." He had taken fish oil supplements.

Anyway, fuck Bill Cosby.