this, too
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82,_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA_%D0%AD%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Monday, 1 December 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link
Britain’s worst ever serial killer: Amelia Dyer The Victorian ‘Angel Maker’ who murdered at least 300 babies .... While largely forgotten today, Amelia Dyer’s crimes paved the way for one of the most sensational trials of the Victorian era – and spotlighted the pandemic problem of infanticide in 19th century Britain. Her Prison Commission file, now visible online, logs Dyer’s final moments on the scaffold at Newgate Gaol on June 10, 1896, and records her hanging with characteristic Victorian efficiency: “On account of her weight and the softness of the textures, rather a short drop was given. It proved to be quite sufficient.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/amelia-dyer-the-woman-who-murdered-300-babies-8507570.html
― xelab, Monday, 1 December 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
Phoebe Manners, 46, a granddaughter of the 9th Duke of Rutland, was accused of sending ex-boyfriend, big game hunter Stuart Anderson-Wheeler, six unwanted texts. But Mr Anderson-Wheeler, 34, who flew in from Tanzania especially for the case, was only required to give evidence for ten minutes during the trial. The gun-dealer, garbed in a tailored blue blazer and cravat, studiously avoided making eye-contact with his former partner as he told the court he found Miss Manner's behaviour 'unnerving'.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Monday, 1 December 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
So where are people discussing the revelation that the genetic confirmation of Richard III's remains indicates a break in the royal line and casts the last several centuries of royal succession into doubt?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
http://iloveroyalfamilies.tumblr.com/
― soref, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
first rule of Real England club is that nobody gives much of a fuck about the monarchy - which is a pan-European institution if anything
― poptimisty mounting pop (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
Hey, I'll take whatever fuck you don't give and give less of one. I think it's interesting, though, to have a system of succession rooted in invented bullshit be revealed to be rooted in historically inaccurate invented bullshit.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
if you have ever read anything about the history of any dynasty ever you will have been aware that many kings were supposed to have been sired by someone other than their legal father
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
Sure! But genetic proof is a new twist, no?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
not sure! since Richard III there have been at least 3 coups plus a bunch of non-direct descendants so without reading this new info i'm kind of surprised the current family has ever claimed much in the way of direct descent?
― poptimisty mounting pop (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
ok a quick skim reveals this is about the legitimacy of Henry VII's claim which i think has been srsly questioned by historians for a while, this feels like evidence on top of what was already thought rather than a real ground-shaker
― poptimisty mounting pop (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
But they say the Y chromosome finding "could be of key historical significance." False paternity in John of Gaunt's family could mean that Plantagenet kings such as Henry V had no genetic claim to their thrones. The study states, "This would also hold true, indirectly, for the entire Tudor line," including Elizabeth I and Henry VIII.
Still, the genes can't reveal exactly when the break in paternity occurred. And fortunately for today's royal-watchers, Queen Elizabeth II descended from a different family line.
there you go. as nakh says tho, hard to think of any monarchical lineage of any length that isn't at least part mythological
― poptimisty mounting pop (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
the suggestion is that an 18th century duke was not a patrilineal descendant, there are several centuries of non-royal antecedents between him and the king
“There are 19 links in this chain, five of them could affect royal descent. So statistically the chances are it actually has had no effect at all. But it would be worthwhile investigating further to try and understand more fully where that breakage occurred,” Professor Shurer said.
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link
And fortunately for today's royal-watchers, Queen Elizabeth II descended from a different family line.
― poptimisty mounting pop (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:10 (6 minutes ago)
the other week i was in a cab stuck in traffic circumnavigating buckingham palace and having given up hope of getting anywere on time i was just staring at the royal-watchers and the victorian normcore-brutalist edifice itself, the political prison ceaucescu would have built if he had survived the coup
the royal-watcher population seems to be almost entirely foreign and oddly torpid, what is it they are hoping to see exactly? the inertial lack of the spectacular as paradoxical anti-spectacle, children scuffing their shoes, periodic commotions as tour groups in brownian motion are summoned together, that vast red asphalt tegument like the running track surrounding a soviet football stadium, a couple of praetorian squaddies with bayoneted assault rifles, the endless soot black perimeter walls delimiting an unseemly amount of hyperprime real estate that will never be realized
― نكبة (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
I would happily see every one of these Saxe-Coburg fucks executed in a dingy cellar just like their worthless fucking Romanov relatives. The royalty gazing faction are laughable sub-human scum and fuck them. If all you want from life is to gaze at inbred cousin fuckers in big houses then you deserve some kind of fatal disease.
― xelab, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
gaze at inbred cousin fuckers in big houses
I smell the best series of Big Brother yet!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/hope-and-despair-at-the-watford-jobfair
― cardamon, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link
^ will not disappoint, Real fans
― cardamon, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link
"“Watford is not Liverpool. In Watford if you want a job, I’m not saying you can pick and choose, but there are opportunities available.”"
Isn't that a line from the 'Anfield Rap'?
― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 10:07 (nine years ago) link
Baby-faced-yob-10-given-ASBO-banning-meeting-friends-hanging-shops-terrorising-local-community-older-brother.html
― Chairman Feinstein (nakhchivan), Friday, 12 December 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
not content with having a lower age of criminal responsibility than uzbekistan, bolivia or uganda, now the enlightened english public get to see the police photos of 10 year old boys published in a national newspaper
― Chairman Feinstein (nakhchivan), Friday, 12 December 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/3SK1fkU.png
Young Advisor Clive
http://i.imgur.com/Ubbbpad.jpg
I’m Clive & I’m 21 years old. I’ve been involved with U R Boss for over a year. I’ve had the chance to talk to MPs and also been to a Youth Offending Team in Birmingham to speak to young people there. I enjoy my part in U R Boss and wouldn’t change it for the world.
― Chairman Feinstein (nakhchivan), Friday, 12 December 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Copyright © 2011 the Howard League for Penal Reform.
― Chairman Feinstein (nakhchivan), Friday, 12 December 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAhEFuq62-I
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
not so much the titular hero, tho he seems real enough, but his sudden overwhelming surge into the national consciousness
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
RIP White Van Dan. Nov 2014-Nov 2014.
― everything, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
that cunt is alluded to in this unusually reflective telegraph article
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/11282658/Manchester-United-fan-Andy-Tate-and-Arsenals-Claude-the-Gooner-become-YouTube-hits.-But-why.html
idk if i would say jonathan liew is a particularly good journalist even by fitba standards but he seems to be doing something right judging by the borderline racist btl vitriol he gets
trad fitba journalism is very real and here rob shep shepherd, formerly serving at her majesty's pleasure, intermittently serving at lord rothermere's pleasures, takes umbrage at one of his own being sidelined in favour of this interloper
https://twitter.com/iLShep/status/534394374067847168
― Chairman Feinstein (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
that's a decent piece altho the fact that it's been exclusively working class kids who i've heard running Wealdstone Raider catchphrases into the ground these last couple of weeks says that the memeification is more complex than only "lol proles"
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
I love these photos from the failed Yorkshire Magical Winterland event.http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03136/harrogate_3136434k.jpghttp://news.images.itv.com/image/file/547146/article_update_img.jpgDespite promising a winter walk, a Frozen singalong and a chance to feed Santa’s reindeer, excited families were faced with a desolate scene of disappointment after paying £20 per ticket.
― xelab, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
struggling to think what wouldn't be a desolate scene of disappointment if i was paying 20 quid a ticket
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
true!
― xelab, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
i wonder if the seasonal loss of any sense of financial reality that comes over some parents is a Real England issue or a global phenom
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 20:58 (nine years ago) link
I am probably slightly evil and misanthropic, but my sympathy rating is zero for those that got ripped in this case. On the other hand I am just as fucked as them, only so many times you can extend your overdraft with fuck all going in.
― xelab, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
let's say one parent takes a couple of kids thats £60 before you've got in to something that's probly been knocked up in a fortnight, it's not quite three-card monte but it's still like begging to be gulled
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link
I see that wakefield kirkgate station is finally getting done?
― anvil, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link
Paying 20 quid per ticket to enter a 'Yorkshire's Magical Winterland' only to see it fail miserably or get cancelled all together is pretty Real England to me. You paid up knowing, or should've known, it would fail miserably in the first place tbh. 20 quid magical winterlands don't happen in Yorkshire. It get's cold there, for sure, but it's a cold you can do without. If you throw 20 quid towards a spectacle this unlikely, yes, that is Real Englang to me tbh.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 18 December 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link
lol truth
― A cat having an apron (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 December 2014 07:22 (nine years ago) link
listening to marmozets cos of the end of year thread and it made me wonder what bingley was like
― Ottbot jr (NickB), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:31 (nine years ago) link
Notable people
The Ickeringill family, which included the noted Chartists Isaac Ickeringill (b. 1803) and his brother George (b. 1810) [10][11] and Ira Ickringill (spelling accurate) (b. 1836), the Bradford mill founder,[12] inventor and Mayor of Keighley,[13] were born, raised and lived in Bingley.Percy Vear Professional Boxer. Born Crossflatts, Bingley, July 12, 1911Fred Hoyle Astronomer. Born Bingley, 24 June 1915John Braine Author of Room at the Top. Worked in Bingley Library until 1942.Chris Spence Journalist. Born Bingley 8 June 1970Peter Sutcliffe Serial Killer. Born Bingley 2 June 1946Rodney Bewes Actor, most famous role Bob Ferris in The Likely Lads. Born in Bingley 27 November 1938.Muriel Aked Actress, born 9 November 1887 in Bingley, died 21 March 1955 in Settle.[14]Pat Kirkwood Musical theatre actress, lived in Bingley in her later years.[15]William Twiss, (1745–1827), Royal Engineer and designer of the Martello Tower, lived in Bingley on retirement and is buried in All Saints Church, Bingley.Marmozets Band formed in Bingley in 2011.
― Ottbot jr (NickB), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:32 (nine years ago) link
pretty lol when it dawned on Murdoch press that giving this guy exposure was just making people think Thornberry otm.
― wat if lermontov hero of are time modern day (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:33 (nine years ago) link
xpquite a lot on Bingley's bingleyness at the start of gordon burn's book on the ripper.
― woof, Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:38 (nine years ago) link
Serious question: can anyone point to an example of one of these 'Winter Wonderland' type things that hasn't been a hilariously cynical rip off organised by career criminals?
― wat if lermontov hero of are time modern day (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:42 (nine years ago) link
dude, christmas is a hilariously cynical rip off organised by career criminals tbh
― Ottbot jr (NickB), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:46 (nine years ago) link
Winterland, 'ever get the feeling you've been cheated?' lol
― wat if lermontov hero of are time modern day (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:46 (nine years ago) link
xp: ur like the guy in the story who didn't like christmas and was mean but then something happened and he did like christmas and being kind after all
― wat if lermontov hero of are time modern day (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:49 (nine years ago) link
Jesus IIRC
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:50 (nine years ago) link
http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article4795694.ece/alternates/s1227b/Yorkshires-Magical-Winterland-in-Harrogate.jpg
Shout out to leggings and foofy boots in background
― wat if lermontov hero of are time modern day (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:53 (nine years ago) link
i thought of the funniest response to that, then i googled it and 33,000 other clowns had got there first
― Ottbot jr (NickB), Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:58 (nine years ago) link
Hyde Park Winter Wonderland? Like obvs it's a rip-off etc, but it's v v pro, probably does what it says,
― woof, Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:59 (nine years ago) link
london is not real england
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 18 December 2014 11:03 (nine years ago) link