Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. -- Marvel meets Joss Whedon meets...TV!

I really hate Arrow and can never go back there so I have to stick with SOMEthing. And even Joss Whedon's explication explanations of crowd-sourcing problem solving on The Twitter aren't as bad as Arrow's hyper-violent vigilantism & sexism.

Sleepy Hollow got as boring as early SHIELD for me

*spoilers*

So yeah, Skye and her dad are Inhumans, leading up to the movie in their timeline, and that is why they had no reaction to kree blood. Right?

I mean, Coulsen could have been a LMD but they're using it as a movie jump-off and this is just as plausible.

I don't know if this show's ratings are good or bad, but I wonder if it's sort of immune to that sort of pressure, in its role as table-setting for future films.

*spoilers*

So yeah, Skye and her dad are Inhumans, leading up to the movie in their timeline, and that is why they had no reaction to kree blood. Right?

Her mum was something as well, as she was unaged between the two clips with Nazi Dude who's become young again. I'm guessing the Diviner is some device that can tell whether bodies have the Terrigen or not and kills those that don't (to bring it into current Marvel canon).

x-post on a different topic: I didn't really like the first series of Arrow that much but stuck with it, the second series was great in parts and the third so far has been solid enough but I'm kind of indifferent to it. Barrowman chews up the scenery dreadfully but is maybe the best thing about it. The Flash otoh is straight up awesome and pushes all my Flashgeek buttons EVERY WEEK. We had Ralph Dibny and Bea deCosta namechecks in the last ep! He's got a Cosmic Treadmill (which isn't cosmic yet, but whatevs)! Captain Boomerang is coming up soon!

Oh hai The Bronze

I can't even tell if it's a shout-out to fans or just the inside of Whedon's head, at this point.

Lost patience with this show when I found out that the reason behind Coulson's resurrection wasn't what I had think most people originally thought. Wasn't a big thing or anything, but was the straw that broke the camels back for me in terms of being able to enjoy this show.

Call me skeptical, but would most comic fans really have preferred Life Model Decoys to Kree and Inhumans?

Also, just for the record:

There is no way on earth that Coulson is a robot.

― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, September 27, 2013 9:55 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

having s2 described to me and... sounds like season 2 of heroes and a million other crappy sci-fi shows tbh, just awful. how many characters do they have doing the "am i evil or actually 100% a good guy" dance?

i watched all of s1 and never thought it got any of that "better" people keep talking about

how many characters do they have doing the "am i evil or actually 100% a good guy" dance?

Kyle McLachlan. That's it.

Ward's been established as a good guy (albeit with the inclination for questionable deeds and his own motives), and Flower Dress Girl is neither (this was resolved as far back as the Clairvoyant reveal).

I heard the name of the show and I was all like, "ugh, I do not lile the name of that show, I'll bet it's stupid and also terrible".

I don't know why I get so defensive about this show. Except that I like it and most people who complain about it don't even watch it (or haven't seen more than a handful of episodes).

IT IS NOT GREAT BUT IT IS GOOD, STOP PICKING ON IT, GEEZ.

'it's not great but it is good' is otm. it started awful and got steadily better and now it's consistently entertaining, with characters that are getting more fleshed out. plus tyra from friday night lights is in it now! and kyle mclachlan is clearly having a whale of a time chewing the scenery.

the flash is better tho. actually, do we need a standalone flash thread?

(or haven't seen more than a handful of episodes).

i saw the entire first season! and half of the first episode of season 2 before i realized i was a thousand percent bored and can't give a shit. i also overhear my gf listening to it and constantly ask her to explain these awful things

it got "better" because of the events in the movies and it'll never stop feeling like a cheap little supplement to the movies (and i say this as a big fan of the movies)

I feel like that's the central issue I have with most of the criticism. Everyone is comparing it to the movies. I like the movies a lot and I like AoS a lot, but they're both doing different things. AoS is like a well-plotted '70s or '80s genre show. It's not terribly ambitious but it's solid at doing what it does. Not all of the actors are great but I like everyone on the show. It's fun.

And I'll double down on the 'well-plotted' aspect. The writers/showrunners have done a fantastic job of planting seeds and following threads. A season and a half in and it's maintained a solid through line with very little extraneous action. Not many genre shows maintain that level of consistency and coherence, and it's all the more impressive given the balancing act they have to do with the movies.

yeah, that's true. if the current story thread turns out the way it appears to be going (the eternals!) then they'll be introducing a major aspect of the overall universe on tv rather than in the movies, which would go a long way to making the show seem more significant than it ever has before.

d'oh, inhumans not eternals

have you actually watched this show, Ward is evil as shit

Best to get on board now, folks, instead of scrambling to watch multiple seasons of preamble in anticipation of The Inhumans.

Turns out Skye and her father are established Marvel characters! I didn't see that one coming.

One seriously underheralded element of this show: the fight choreography is top notch, better than I've seen in a lot of movies even.

This show got tons better from sesason 1 to 2, from crap to pretty great. Also better than most Marvel movies.

http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/5d2598e9gw1elc8qpkrrig206t05ab29.gif

yep, this is getting good. they've been playing an admirably long game and it's starting to pay off big-time.

kyle maclachlan has been so good.

his hair has been fucking spectacular

He may have set some kind of "perspiring on screen" record this week.

Show has now regained equilibrium at its Black Guy quota of 1. Things were getting unstable for a while.

I never imagined I'd get a chance to see McLachlan in a WWE wrestling-style fight scene

Turns out Skye and her father are established Marvel characters! I didn't see that one coming.

I never imagined I'd get a chance to see McLachlan in a WWE wrestling-style fight scene

truly we are living in an age of wonders

looks like their cheat for the cinematic universe to get around not really having the rights to mutants is to use the Inhumans as a partial replacement

that's basically what they've been doing in the comics too

if u think about it black bolt is basically mouthclops anyway

lol

I've always thought Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch would make more sense as Inhumans than mutants

As of this week it's been retconned they're not Magneto's children.

WTF

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/12/todays-axis-7-will-retcon-scarlet-witch-quicksilver-forever-spoilers-obviously/

oh great another crazy wanda stunt

just like her dad

agent carter was fun! hayley atwell is great.

Seconded. I feel like most people have given up on the MCU's televisual presence at this point (at least until the Netflix bombardment begins), but it's totally worthwhile. And, one hopes, decreasingly vestigial.

I guess at least six million households (how the hell do tv ratings work, wtf) watched it and most of the people I know have said they're going to watch it off hulu later this week

Well, by "most people" I really mean "most people who are otherwise way into the MCU".

I think those are the only people watching this stuff on the regular so that they can complain about it on the internet

It was ok, but there were some serious RMDE moments. "People I care for..." *single tear trickles down cheek* "...tend to get killed." Apartments with 10 p.m. curfews complete with a Facts of Life Mrs. Garrett character. Jarvis' 9 p.m. bedtime, which apparently doesn't apply when he has to go to New Jersey.

There is such a huge chasm between the MCU feature films and MCU network tv shows, tonally, and there is already such a huge suspension of disbelief in accepting superheroics and "implosives" and such. I have a really hard time with dumbed down dialogue and cardboard characters on top of that suspension.

the casting was good, though

as was the tone overall. Pretty enjoyable generally

i really enjoyed it!

best thing about it is that it cut straight to the chase & you're off on an adventure right away

it's fun. kinda feels dick tracy-ish.

love the cutaways to the capt america radio program

For some reason, I was thinking 'Indiana Jones-y', but 'Dick Tracy-ish' is much more OTM.

One disappointment: I was excited when it looked like they might be setting up Andre Royo as an ongoing heavy. Oh well.

also reminds me of Batman: the animated series (more for the score than anything)

that's the best sell i've heard yet

:D

i am really taken with this show, not gonna lie