he's got a lot of snide (perfect phrasing from him) hacks spitting with rage and fury. he's pissed off murdoch to levels of desperation surprising even for him. Brilliant.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link
idgi are his landlords tax dodgers or is he trying to tax dodge his landlords - I mean it's nonsense either way but
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
He's doing nothing. Supposedly the property management company he rents from is registered in the British Virgin Islands.
― everything, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
lol at a tenant being responsible for the improprieties of a landlord
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
I think that, as a tenant, if your landlord/letting agent isn't based in the UK you have to pay the taxation element of the rent direct to HMRC, and the remainder of the rent to the landlord.
― AlanSmithee, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
Yeah that is correct if your landlord lives outside the uk. Not sure about a corporation registered in a tax haven though.
― everything, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
I think that's a blind; the point which was made at the outset (and where the hypocrisy charge seems to start from) is that the protest is about low rents being raised to "market rate", whereas landlords set "market rates" at least in part on the basis of what they think the market will bear - which is considerably higher when people come into the area from other parts of the city and pay rents which some would consider excessive for the benefit of being in a trendy area.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
why was bob mortimer now doing c4 news things?
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
sorry about the grammar
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/bobbysixer/segrin_zps6b1096c6.jpg
For clarification: Is this a 'shit eating grin' (which I've always taken to mean a kind of embarrassed grin in a dire situation)?
― Twist of Caliphate (Bob Six), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
it's a "thank god the woman saved my ass" face i think
― ^ 諷刺 (ken c), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link
Not sure you're allowed to have "ass" and "face" that close together on the Internet under the new obscenity laws tbh.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
Not immediately following a post with 'shit eating' in it I would have thought.
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link
i do think its interesting that he's become involved in local grassroots politics in his area, and the timing is right because grassroots pushbacks in his area have learnt a lot of lessons in recent years it seems. what New Era are saying does appear to have real traction and in a way that pushes deeply into the meaning of the still-emerging post-welfare state.
again, i'm not particularly interested in russell brand per se. i suspect that he might be as dangerous as he is ludicrous. but his vapidness reveals something of the vapidness of 24hour news streams. and there is this residue of real anger, and a genuine attempt to articulate this rage in relation to empirical political events and the imbrication of global investment portfolios with local social housing stock. we're used, time and again, to seeing the ways in which the devastating despoiling effects of corporate greed operate in ways far too difficult to parse in headline news and so escape the pressure of public opinion. and so public opinion always seems parochial and smallminded and news coverage seems polarizing and puerile. its easy to scapegoat immigrants or the benefits claimants but its almost impossible to track the cunning ingenuity of financial products that reap mass havoc. and so its interesting that this becomes visible here, that this story appears that makes explicit the links between different social housing and the massive foreign investment in london property and offshore tax havens and local communities and gentrification and how boring it seems to focus on russell brand celebrity comedian or television presenter or prank phone call maker or whatever
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:45 (nine years ago) link
WREAK mass havoc
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link
we need more actor-activists like danny glover, who is incredibly smart, energetic, not in the least egotistical, and always willing to take a backseat to those at the center of the crisis.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link
sorry, that sounds idiotic when i read it back--as if what the world's direst need is for more celebrities with causes. i guess i'm just saying that brand isn't the only model of celebrity activist.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link
If you ever end up feeling marginalised and finding yourself pondering a grim future on the streets, at least you have this fucking over-indulged, over-hung fucking insane coke head poltroon to fight your corner :p
― xelab, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
i hear that sung to the tune of the "taxi" theme song
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link
lol!
― xelab, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:33 (nine years ago) link
great posts, plax
― sleeve, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link
Agreed. Great posts.
And xpost: Meh, you'e being depressingly cynical. I have first hand experience of Russell Brand coming to fight the corner of a very difficult organisation I'm connected to professionally which helps the absolutely most marginalised members of this country's society and tbh he was fucking brilliant and garnered a lot of much needed positive publicity, sympathy and support. I'll pretty much stan for him any time now.
― everything, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link
yeah but lol he has a book called booky wook
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
xp that's all I need to know to confirm that you are full of shit
― xelab, Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link
I mean, I get why people don't like him - he's successful, funny, articulate and so on. That hardly plays to the British character of knowing your place.
― everything, Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link
lol anyone who's up for taking potshots at russell brand over this, w/e they think of him in general, is fuckin scum tbh, the kind that one day a real rain will come and wash off of the streets
― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link
it is so strange the way people's arguments that they don't like russell brand because he's a misogynist get translated into not liking russell brand because he's a successful comedian
NOT THE SAME THING
(except they so often are)
― lex pretend, Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link
lol
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link
do the bit about comedians again I love that bit
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:25 (nine years ago) link
, the kind that one day a real rain will come and wash off of the streets
Armageddon doesn't count and for now I want htis shitstain to die.
― xelab, Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link
this fucking shit stain to die slowly
― xelab, Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link
lol u mad bro
― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link
he talks funny
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link
wait tho i think this famous comedian and film star mite live in a nice flat in town
― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link
GET 'IM!!
― Hark! The Village People (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link
if he really cared he'd move into a dustbin and give the money to the poor
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:54 (nine years ago) link
There'd be money in the dustbin?
― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:55 (nine years ago) link
if he moves into a dustbin tho he's on the hook for any nefarious dealings at the local council
― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 December 2014 00:56 (nine years ago) link
It would have to only be half a dustbin though cos the mansion tax would get him otherwise
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Thursday, 4 December 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link
When Dog Latin and BB got together it was moider!
― xelab, Thursday, 4 December 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link
i think brand does some good work in bringing attention to things that the media would otherwise pay attention to. but i think that he and the media are locked in a kind of dance that doesn't really involve long-term attention being paid to those struggles. that's not really his fault. but i don't think he has the perspicacity, calm, and patience to make the most out of his better impulses and insights.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 4 December 2014 07:31 (nine years ago) link
^^^
― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 December 2014 11:11 (nine years ago) link
no, he must die
― Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Thursday, 4 December 2014 11:29 (nine years ago) link
i am very far from being #teambrand but i suspect there are better ways of defending him than deflecting criticisms with ponderous sarky blokey #bantz
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 4 December 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link
http://gettanked.clothing/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cant_stop_wont_stop-253x300.png
― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 4 December 2014 11:56 (nine years ago) link
I'm not really #teambrand either, but the more I hear people criticising his fundamental arguments based on his celebrity status, his drug history, his financial assets, his 'big words', his appearance or his personality traits, the more sarky I feel like being. I will grant the misogyny call-outs. His chequered history, especially w/r/t sachsgate is despicable and highly problematic and I understand why this is enough to be revolted by him.
Yet still part of me has trouble parsing the idea that this invalidates his sincerity when it comes to drawing attention to the areas he's trying to highlight. It's not easy - indeed we shouldn't - forgive a heinous episode like Sachsgate (which is all too memorable, despite being six years ago), and the casual sexism he has been prone to use (and not apologised for as far as I know) in the media. But does this automatically nullify the fact he seems to be genuinely invested in things like New Era and other areas he campaigns for.
― Hello, my name is Dark Chocolate Cookie (dog latin), Thursday, 4 December 2014 12:22 (nine years ago) link
lol anyone who's up for taking potshots at russell brand over this, w/e they think of him in general, is fuckin scum tbh, the kind that one day a real rain will come and wash off of the streets― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins),
― intelligent, expressive males within the greater metropolitan (Bananaman Begins),
^^QFT
― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 4 December 2014 13:16 (nine years ago) link
I have lost count of the number of left-wing men whose chauvinism/sexism is swept under the carpet completely because they're Fighting The Good Fight, but I will give a certain amount of credit to RB for acknowledging his own lairiness and trying to work past it. I can think of dozens of men who'd be like "who, me?" or "but what about RACISM?" when challenged on this point.
― resting rich face (suzy), Thursday, 4 December 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
I'm not really #teambrand either
I think you are a bit tbh
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 December 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link
oh alright, fine. i'm still voting in the next election though.
― Hello, my name is Dark Chocolate Cookie (dog latin), Thursday, 4 December 2014 13:55 (nine years ago) link