did smashmouth release anything in the 90s? 'walking on the sun' should be included if eligable
and is 'keep em seperated' really worse than 'pretty fly for a white guy'?
― minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 16:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― minna (minna), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
This is from a BJ discography: Storm Front and the first single, We Didn't Start The Fire, reached the #1 spots simultaneously on the Billboard album and singles charts on December 16, 1989. My Billboard book says it stayed #1 for a total of two weeks. So while it was still a hit during the first flush weeks of the '90's, it peaked before 1990. Hence, I would say: NOT a '90's record.
Oh god, yes, the Juliana Hatfield one.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Champagne Supernova" wasn't a single, but I guess it might as well have been. But given my horrid housemates obsession with it I'll let that pass.
― Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
Tracks that I'm not sure came out in the 90s:
3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire”31. digable planets “rebirth of slick”39. color me badd “I adore mi amore”74. vanessa williams “save the best for last”82. mc hammer “2 legit 2 quit”
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mckenzie (Mckenzie), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
3. billy joel “we didn’t start the fire” - 198931. digable planets “rebirth of slick” - 199339. color me badd “I adore mi amore” - 199174. vanessa williams “save the best for last” - 199282. mc hammer “2 legit 2 quit” - 1991
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Graham (graham), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 2 November 2002 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
Is 14.
Graham - by Dodgy's standards, Staying Out For The Summer isn't that bad...
― Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
Under The Bridge, though...
― Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
Ned: "Tonight, Tonight" is possibly the most god-awful single of the quarter century -- a shallow ploy to try and replicate the commercial success of "Disarm," except in place of that single's boringly ominous vibe they brought in the flattest, most rudimentary string section possible and everyone just pumped and pumped and strained to find some emotion in a very, very dull song. Corgan's labored bleating over the top does not help -- he sounds like Gilbert Gottfried in labor.
Ones I like / don't mind so much: "Radio Song" (please replace with "Everybody Hurts," which even as an REM-friendly type I cringed at), "Two Princes" (it seems wrong for Spin Doctors to be the whipping-boys of the 90s when they generally just seemed like a casual bar-band that lucked into a chart single: I don't even think they thought they were cool), "Rebirth of Slick," "Djed" (this is a list of pop singles; shoehorning the 20-minute album track "Djed" in there seems like a really lame way to pick on post-rock, plus ruins the logic of the thing, because if album tracks count I guarantee you there are things on let's say Lou Bega's record that are a million times worse than "Mambo #5") ... (replace "Everything About You," which was at least sort of amusing, with UKJ's "Cat's in the Cradle" cover). "More than Words" I absolutely hate but I feel like there's something remarkable about having written the anthem to every American high-school asshole pressuring his girlfriend to put out, and I think I might like to write about that. (Funnily enough I am already writing something for something else about Silk's "Freak Me," the only song in history that makes me physically ill when I hear it.) "Cantaloop" ain't so offensive (though "Mr. Wendel" is, it seems like something Mr. Lif would have written when he was younger and even hokier). "Sex and Candy" I didn't mind, and file with Spin Doctors -- such a brief flash of an inoffensive throwaway single that it seems rude to hate it. Thank you for remembering the shit that was the Toadies; and yeah, I too unsurprisingly like "Buddy Holly."
Things I seem to recall really sucking: that Cake "how do you afford your rock and roll lifestyle" song, the Fleetwood Mac comeback release (if that can count), Sublime's "What I Got" or the even more dire one that came after it, something or other about Superman by some horrible Canadian alt-rock band or other (Our Lady Peace?), John Secada, "These are Days" by 10,000 Maniacs, BLACK CROWES ...
Also please note that maybe contrary to your intentions this looks like a list that was written by people who listen to mostly alt-rock and just don't like the examples of it that chart.
― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
Let's just say I violently disagree and leave it at that. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 18:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
That said I stand by my choices, which I do think are all very bad records and really got under my skin and annoyed me (in a way that even awful pop usually doesn't - something about the typical forcefulness of the rock delivery maybe?).
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Black Hole Sun" if it's in there because of me is in there because the video is so bad.
― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
ethan got on my dick last night that the list was too obvious and middlebrow, but fuck it, that's what WAS so horrible about the 90s: the creeping evil of banality and all that...(also, ethan has lost any ability at aesthetic reflection in the last 12 months.) part of the point of making lists like this, however, is a. wallowing in yr own "misery" and b. attempting to rile people (as ethan and 50% of the posters to this thread have proved out.) it was also a lot f fun. what's the point of doing anything then, especially posting a reply to a thread about it?
(or, what tom said as i was posting.)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
I will not bother listing the indie entries which I consider lacklustre and plodding but not actually BAD because I know nobody involved will ever agree, but I must disagree with the first two lines of Dan's suggestions, too. I wouldn't be that offended if Smart Es got in, but really, is there any complaint that could be levelled at it that wouldn't be much more fairly aimed at, I don't know, Poing?
(I'd even stick up for the original Poing if I had to, but whoever decided it needed a 1999 trancebag makeover needs a slap.)
― Rebecca, hunting for flame-proof jacket (reb), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
Certainly "Both Sides of the Story" as well as "Another Day in Paradise" are both vomit-inducing. Was "The Living Years" by Mike and the Mechanics in the 1990s? Something's telling me it was in the 80s, as well as "Wild Wild West" by The Escape Club. If not, they are all viable candidates for inclusion.
How about "Deeper Shade of Soul" by Urban Dance Squad? I have kind of a love/hate thing with that one...or "Life Is a Highway" by Tom Cochrane? Eh, I guess it isn't Top 100 bad.
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 2 November 2002 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― felicity (felicity), Saturday, 2 November 2002 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
DB, please tell me you not serious!! The video rules!!!!
― brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 2 November 2002 21:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
Dan,You Are Blessed!!!
― brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 2 November 2002 21:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Evan, Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
1) No Creed? (right now I wouldn't waste the brain cells trying to come up with a song title)2) Why "Radio Song" when that song REM did for the Man on the Moon soundtrack is infinitely worse?3) No Shania Twain?
― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
I know this is mostly pop-focused, but can we please please please please make an exception and add Tim McGraw's "Indian Outlaw" to the list?
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
Unless you WANTED 400 entries about why "Candle in the Wind '97" sucks.
― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 2 November 2002 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
You need some Bush song on there. They shouldn't escape this list after two awful 90's albums.
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Saturday, 2 November 2002 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
additionally, i think i arrived after the list was pretty much already finished, so all i did was agree with the ones that i thought were bad and went silent when 'buddy holly' came up.
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 2 November 2002 23:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
danzig and the oh-so excruciating tripping daisy are missing though, just like jan arden and natalie merchant.
― mike (ro)bott, Sunday, 3 November 2002 00:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 3 November 2002 00:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 3 November 2002 01:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chris (chris), Sunday, 3 November 2002 01:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Sunday, 3 November 2002 02:38 (twenty-one years ago) link