http://mythicspoiler.com/frf/cards/marduscout.html
has red ever gotten a no-drawback 3-power creature for two mana?
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
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ok, then that's stronger than I thought on first look, not bad!
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
of course it will be extra amusing when your opponent casts Dig Through Time in response...
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
xp i don't think so, but it's gotten lots of ones with minor drawbacks or preconditions
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
mardu scout art on some poochie shit
― wizaerd (Lamp), Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
lol so otm
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
& the ghastly conscription art looks like grimdark mario galaxy
― ciderpress, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
lol lamp
the green dark confidant dude @ uncommon seems kinda insane in limited
― iatee, Thursday, 8 January 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
full set is up on the wotc site
no october surprises this time really
― ciderpress, Friday, 9 January 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
had a quick scan thru at lunch, seemed like slight improvement in removal? more warriors, less reasons to care about warriors. and surely the worst delve card to date - peel from reality except 4U delve instead of 1U!
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 9 January 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
this one does any nonland permanent, if that matters
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 9 January 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link
I think that ones better than the 4uu frost breath
― ciderpress, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
And yeah its non delve version actually costs 2u (aether tradewinds iirc) so it's one of the smallest delve penalties
― ciderpress, Friday, 9 January 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
pretty okay w/ pod being banned, it's either than or it stays the best deck indefinitely
cruise maybe less shocking tho I really didn't feel like it was broken in modern, people were playing thought scours just to turn it on, it's not like legacy where your graveyard just magically ends up w/ 10 cards in it. dig seemed scarier long-term.
I might play storm again in modern, it just lost two of its terrible matchups
― iatee, Monday, 19 January 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
either that*
― iatee, Monday, 19 January 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
i am giving up on modern.
― wizaerd (Lamp), Monday, 19 January 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
Bleh, there goes all the effort I sunk into Pod. I get the rationale and even agree with it, but it's annoying to have spent all that time and money. At least I still have Affinity
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 03:30 (nine years ago) link
i don't mind modern as banlist-curated format though it does suck when your deck is the one that gets hit. this felt like a long time coming though, imo melira pod was the best deck in the format for the full 3 years since the punishing fire ban
i would expect GBx midrange decks to be the most popular choice again going forward. i think these decks mostly suck without bloodbraid elf and you should pick up one of the ramp decks if you want a lot of free wins (valakut, tron, amulet)
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 14:16 (nine years ago) link
anyone have prerelease tales to share?
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link
i had 3 of the rare dragons in my pool so i played them all and crushed people
despite the format being really heavy on the small set (i think it was like 4.5 packs of the new set and 1.5 of khans?) it seemed to play well
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
played 2 prereleases. the first was Temur, which I struggled with as I had way too many 5 drops slowing down my curve, ended up 2-2-1. The second, at a different store, went Jeskai and had a much more consistent deck, went 3-0 without dropping a game along the way. Really loved the manifest auras, especially hexproof flyer. Had a fun blowout where my opponent tried to Arcbond me and wipe my board, so I sacked my targeted creature in response for Collateral Damage.
Overall, I pulled 4 fetchlands, so I guess they are being fairly generous with them at least in the initial print run. Otherwise, didn't pick up much that was notable besides a copy of the new phoenix.
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
also saw a guy open an alternative art Ugin in one of those little Ugin packs. Didn't even realize these existed.
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
another one I really like is Frost Walker. Thinking of jamming a couple copies in my temur deck instead of Elvish Mystic.
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
That "when (x) becomes targeted, sacrifice" mechanic seems so terrible at first but it's really not much of a downside on a creature like this is it?
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
if it can get 1 or 2 hits in, it's great, if it can trade with a creature or eat a piece of removal, it's still pretty good. I love playing creatures like this or Heir of the Wilds because opponents often are loathe to spend a card on them when Knuckleblade, Ashcloud Phoenix, and Stormbreath Dragon are waiting in the wings, so you get to sneak in some free damage.
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
one funny thing about that ability is that Bile Blight can only kill one at a time, Drown in Sorrow on the other hand...
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
not being able to put runemarks on it is a pretty big downside imo
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
there are definitely many more random things that could target it in limited than in standard
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
yeah but how many of those would kill it anyway?
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
like, that was my main argument for playing the Phantom dudes in limited, just cuz cards that target creatures but don't kill them generally aren't so good. though I do concede they have a number of random ability dudes these days
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
it dies to abilities too, so for example, I lost a Frost Walker to a dashed Goblin Heelcutter attack
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
ah yeah, that's the sort of thing I'm thinking of
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
bannings really contributed to 'format diversity' huh?
― in de rawk (Lamp), Sunday, 8 February 2015 04:09 (nine years ago) link
pretty depressing. there already is a format for junk midrange siege rhino battles.
I wonder how much of it is 'top players are really risk-averse'?
― iatee, Sunday, 8 February 2015 04:25 (nine years ago) link
im sure thats part of it - probably a reason for the high % of burn decks in the field too tbh
its hard to argue that the bannings dindt just kill two decks w/o adding anything new to the format though
― in de rawk (Lamp), Sunday, 8 February 2015 04:33 (nine years ago) link
yep. more than that no more t1 delver means no real tempo presence...and control builds, which weren't even prominent before the ban, also lost their only toy they've been given since sphinx's rev. so we're left with midrange vs burn vs combo?
that said I have been testing grixis delver for a bit recently and it actually feels pretty strong. I think it's too soon to totally discount the deck, like delve is a powerful mechanic and ur cantripy decks have the deepest graveyards.
― iatee, Sunday, 8 February 2015 04:45 (nine years ago) link
i think 'top players are really risk-averse' is an important point here, i've long been of the opinion that GBx rock decks are bad for most players because they have absolutely no upside, they are always going to be 45-50% vs any field and you need to rely on being a lot better (or luckier) than the field to get your equity up high enough to win an event.
― ciderpress, Sunday, 8 February 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
but on the flipside you're never going to lose to a hate card which seems to outweigh any negatives for a large amount of players
― ciderpress, Sunday, 8 February 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
i want to get into this again but like w/ cards not on a computer
is there a pt somewhere in this or another thread where re-entry into the game is discussedbtw i havent played since ~1995
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 08:12 (nine years ago) link
idk if we've discussed that in here
best way is obviously if you have a friend who's played more recently and can field yr questions about new cards/sets/rules etc. i started playing again because i had a roommate who played and i started going to the game store with him and got hooked again.
if you want to play in actual events, like at your local game shop or w/e, booster draft is probably the best format for new/re-entering players since you don't need to own any cards beforehand and if you do it regularly you'll build up a collection over time just from the cards you draft. plus its just the most fun way to play the game in general if you can afford to drop the $10-15 entry per draft.
if you just want to play casual w/ friends they make a bunch of prefab products that are good for that, like there's duel decks which are a set of 2 themed preconstructed decks that are designed to play against each other, and there's commander which is a multiplayer format w/ 100-card decks and some special rules, etc etc.
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link
if booster draft interests you, it would be worthwhile getting familiarized with the most recent sets, Khans of Tarkir and Fate Reforged. The full sets can be pulled up on Wizard's Gatherer tool:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Default.aspx
If you are looking to brush up on some of basics of the game, Reid Duke has a fantastic set of articles that are worth checking out:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/columns/level-one-archive
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
deej you live in ny right?
you should just come w/ me to some draft
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
yeah theres kindof a bewildering number of ways to play physical magic cards so everyone is otm you should find someone you know irl to play with to get a sense of what options are like. there are some bars here that do casual magic nights - sealed and draft - and if you can find someone to take you to something like that its a great reintroduction to the game
― in de rawk (Lamp), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link
absolutely - I think the social aspect of the game is the best thing about it, if you're playing with cool people that is
― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
I'm cool
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
Iatee you have my email right?
Yeah the social part is 100% why I want to do it ... Any excuse to avoid a computer tbh
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 15 February 2015 05:11 (nine years ago) link
yeah I'll email you
― iatee, Sunday, 15 February 2015 06:27 (nine years ago) link
http://www.idealistrevolution.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/1413.jpg
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 16 February 2015 01:13 (nine years ago) link
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/267785#online
I've been playing variations of this list post-tc and honestly it feels almost as strong as cruise-delver. got 2nd in a local gpt today (had opp on 1 life both games in the finals :(
really think the deck is secretly t1. you don't have the insane acceleration you got from cruise, but you also get a decent share of t2 tasigurs and actually have an answer for a resolved tarmogoyf. also can play discard spells and other fun stuff in the sb.
― iatee, Monday, 2 March 2015 03:22 (nine years ago) link
that looks pretty sweet, i might try it. haven't really played a delver deck since standard delver but i enjoy them in theory
― ciderpress, Monday, 2 March 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link