Up next from Studio Ghibli, _The Wind Rises_

have we done a poll on ghibli movies?

We should.

A shame I haven't seen The Wind Rises on more ten best lists.

a November '13 release in NY/LA. Also, not that good.

Kaguya all the way.

haven't seen the wind rises, but morbs otm anyway. kaguya straight destroyed me. it's gorgeous and wholly unrepugnant, not a flange in sight.

Love them both.

Has anybody seen 'When Marnie Was There"? The trailer / source story both bode well. There's an Innocents vibe to the aesthetic that I really dig.

Ghibli poll is fated to end up Totoro vs Spirited Away deathmatch, isn't it? Not that it's a bad thing, but there's hardly a bad film in the bunch. Well... I never could get *into* Porco Rosso or Nausicaa, but I still admire .

Alfred otm. Both deserve more love. Fuck a Pixar.

Totoro vs Spirited Away deathmatch, isn't it?

probably, but i could see nausicaa sneaking in (that might be my choice)

although i have crazy love for kiki's delivery service, it's true

what we really need is a good poll of the best anime features that /aren't/ ghibli. i'd rep for night on the galactic railroad.

Kiki has the best American voices. Phil Hartman ftw. I really like the one based on The Borrowers.

the only ghibli films i've been really disappointed in are the "cat returns" (mostly b/c i had heard really good things about it, and it seemed kind of half-assed) and from up on poppy hill (which wasn't really outright /bad/, just kind of ... diffuse?)

the borrowers one is the secret world of arrietty -- great stuff. pom poko is the only one i'm not a big fan of.

I hated Ponyo.

ponyo is so supremely weird

ponyo is awesome, though not quite top-tier ghibli

What's wrong with it?

I thought it was kinda dumb, to be honest. Too many shots of the fish just squirting water at people, not a terribly compelling scenario, etc.

My young cousins, who made me watch during a Disney trip four years ago, were fascinated by it.

Ponyo is amazing, scene after scene showcasing what Miyazaki is the greatest at. Goes crazy towards the end but then many of his films do.

I thought the girl running on the waves and her huge shiny mother was great.

Keep in mind, I have no prob with the animation, I just think the script and characters are poor.

Ham! Ham! Haaaaaaaaam!

I think the old lady who kept mistaking someone (who I cant remember) for evil was funny.

ponyo is amazing, but even more than most miyazaki fims the plot seems to reinvent itself—or make up new rules—every reel, which was frustrating.

howl's moving castle has a little bit of the same problem, but i still think that's top-five miyazaki for me

"problem"

hmmm actually IMO my list might go something like

1. spirited away
2. nausicaa
3. kiki's delivery service
4. my neighbor totoro
5. princess mononoke
6. howl's moving castle
7. castle in the sky
8. porco rosso
9. the wind rises
10. ponyo
11.castle of cagliostro

btw i really like ALL of these

did i forget one?

Miyazaki films are the closet approximations to Pure Immersion in Cinema for me; the experience of watching Spirited Away, as it made itself up as it went along like a picaresque novel, was one of those moments. Noting his flaws (they're often the same, film after film) is a rote exercise.

you need to watch The Wind Rises!

oh you did -- never mind. It's contenderizer.

Ponyo is amazing, scene after scene showcasing what Miyazaki is the greatest at. Goes crazy towards the end but then many of his films do.

― abcfsk, Saturday, January 24, 2015 2:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought the girl running on the waves and her huge shiny mother was great.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, January 24, 2015 3:16 PM (Yesterday)

otm. gets a lot of flak for childishness, incoherence, w/e, but i think it's among ghibli's very best. funny, trippy, moving, nicely observed (the boat ride after the flood), breathtaking and, in the end, entirely satisfying.

ponyo is amazing, but even more than most miyazaki fims the plot seems to reinvent itself—or make up new rules—every reel, which was frustrating.

― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, January 25, 2015 3:21 PM (22 minutes ago)

we're supposed to demand that our fantasy worlds be "internally consistent", bound at every moment by whatever logic they've established prior. ponyo's cheerful "lol whatever" treatment of this convention is one of its most endearing qualities, imo.

porco rosso might be most underappreciated miyazaki

Miyazaki films are the closet approximations to Pure Immersion in Cinema for me; the experience of watching Spirited Away, as it made itself up as it went along like a picaresque novel, was one of those moments. Noting his flaws (they're often the same, film after film) is a rote exercise.

yeah, this. i find almost all of these films completely absorbing, even the ones that just sort of drift around. i find it hard to get any critical distance from them because i can enjoy sitting through any of them, even the ones i'm less fond of.

seeing these films in a cinema is pretty crucial

i mean for them to cast their spell IMO

porco rosso/wind rises go well together

where's POM POKO on that list amateurist!?

is a miyazaki list, not ghibli in general?

Porco Rosso was a clear ancestor to The Wind Rises.

xp oh, forgot that one was Takahata

Fuck a Pixar.

Perfectly possible to love both Pixar and Ghibli you know.

they admire one another, for sure.

i don't think it's hard to notice that the last few pixar movies have not been up to their earlier standard, though

Ghibli too unfortunately, although I haven't seen Takahata's new one yet.

Watched Ponyo the other night for the first time. Was bowled over, really. Just an eyepopping, crazy and sweet film. Really sublime - in many places - in the original sense of the word.

I guess I was too harsh on Pixar.

how about we have a distinct Ghibli thread (i've seen three)

by the time we start another, they'll have officially closed anyway

Studio Ponoc is a new studio set up by producer Nishimura (When Marnie Was There, Princess Kaguya) and director Yonebayashi (Arietty, When Marnie Was There).
Their first film is out next year, based on Mary Stewart's book The Little Broomstick
Trailer looks hella Ghibli as you would expect/hope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrN9QZLmJ0E

Kaguya was absolutely magnificent. Marnie was very slight in comparison.

they're just making a short for the next round of "Star Wars Visions" i think

If anyone can bring an end to all the star wars, it's Miyazaki.

spirited to a galaxy far, far away

this is essentially a screensaver btw

Yeah, my son who has loved Star Wars and been a recent convert to Studio Ghibli was extremely disappointed in the brevity.