The references in the Marx Bros. are almost irrelevant, it is so manic and disruptive. I mean, the kind of variety show referenced by the Muppets is sort of an outdated model, too, but it's so funny and crazy that kids don't care. And yeah, they love Looney Toons.
And Morbs, kids today - "kids today!" - have been so spoiled in terms of sophisticated animation. When you're raised on/by the likes of Pixar, the visual bar has been set pretty high. Even Loony Toons is largely saved (in their eyes) by the pace and chaos.
Of course, kids today would gladly still sit through the contemporary equivalent of the shit I watched growing up. I think, going the other direction, if it's super dumb the animation does not need to be sharp. If it's super smart (which is to say, referential and witty), it has to be fast and zippy. Like, say, "Phineas and Ferb," which is an amazing balance of fast and funny and smart on both an adult and kid level.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
this thread's gone nuts.
― piscesx, Friday, 16 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
That's how exciting the Oscar noms were this year.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
what JiC said although I would add that one of the reasons Looney Tunes still appeals to generations raised on Pixar et al is that those cgi studios have cribbed a *shitload* from Warner Bros cartoons in terms of framing, pacing, character design + animation - just the way stuff moves in general
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― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
there's a shared visual language that they recognize
anyway lol
― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
Never thought I'd say this, but
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― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
But how will you otherwise learn about the Oscars in 2015?!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
oh did I shit up your annual industry handjob thread sorry my bad
― Οὖτις, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
Has anyone named Oscar ever been nominated for an Oscar?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
Asghar Farhadi
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
Hammerstein
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Hammerstein's the only Oscar to win an Oscar. Others nominated: Brodney, Homolka, Lagerstrom, Millard.
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
shoulda been Oscar Levant
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
Shoulda been Oscar Isaac.
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Friday, 16 January 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Friday, January 16, 2015 3:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM. Also, the voices. There has never been another voice artist who comes anywhere near Mel Blanc's genius.
What do "kids today" get in their animation? "And Bradley Cooper as the talking piece of celery!"
(which I guess he kind of is irl anyway, but still)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 16 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
not rly sure what was 'strawman'-ish about my point, any more than jaymc's -- i assume i'm in the rough age range of parents of kids today (32, btw), and rocky & bullwinkle was about as easy to see as old looney tunes or any other popular 'old' cartoon.
anyone who thinks R&B is bad should compare it to basically any u.s. animated cartoon from 1965 till about 1990, an unparalleled wasteland of shitty writing, bland-to-the-point-of-inhuman art, and soul-destroying banality.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 16 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
You take that back, He-Man, GI Joe and Thundercats were awesome. Because they were on, and we had no choice.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 January 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
Oscar winner, 1963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYjwRZK_NM
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 January 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
uh
After three excellent weeks in limited release, American Sniper expanded nationwide on Friday and earned a stunning $30.5 million.
This the largest single day ever in January; the previous record belonged to Avatar, which took in $25.8 million on January 2nd, 2010. It's also 77 percent higher than the previous opening day record, which belonged to Cloverfield ($17.2 million). Finally, American Sniper's opening was over twice as big as last year's Lone Survivor and Ride Along (both at $14.4 million).
With great word-of-mouth ("A+" CinemaScore), Sniper should play well through the rest of the weekend. Even if it takes a big drop against tough competition from the NFL conference championship games on Sunday, it should still wind up over $80 million for the three-day weekend
just when I count Clint Eastwood the fucker delivers
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
Absolutely pre-sold.
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Saturday, 17 January 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
The Force Majeure director reaction video has to be a stunt, right?
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Friday, January 16, 2015 5:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol if i'd remembered to go to the Q+A with him later that night i probably could've told you :(
― qualx, Saturday, 17 January 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link
For instance, only directors can suggest best director nominees and only actors can nominate actors. But the entire academy membership can submit suggestions for best picture.
: http://www.sacbee.com/entertainment/article7075169.html#storylink=cpy
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link
wait, people are actually going to see "american sniper"?
unless they portray that guy to be the fucked-up asshole he was i have zero interest.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
(btw remind me to tell you about the time i visited sgt york's childhood home)
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 01:00 (nine years ago) link
i think psychology has proved that "war heroism" is v often insanity, temp or othwise
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 January 2015 01:08 (nine years ago) link
― I dunno. (amateurist
remind me to tell you about the time I looked into the heart of an artichoke
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 January 2015 01:09 (nine years ago) link
(couldn't resist)
Never in my life have I been so thoroughly nonplussed by a being movie nominated for Best Picture as I am with Sniper. Politics aside the movie is an absolute piece of shit. (I do have to admit BCoop is great.)
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:18 (nine years ago) link
If the movie is a big hit (as it seems to be) i wdn't completely write off a Cooper win at the Oscars, whatev the politics
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link
Everyone in that category outside of Carell has "a shot."
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:39 (nine years ago) link
Isn't it odd that Under the Skin got zero nominations? Not even one for the immaculate soundtrack?
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:51 (nine years ago) link
no
― qualx, Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link
Yeah that is not an academy-type movie. Def on my best of list for the year.
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 18 January 2015 03:24 (nine years ago) link
american sniper aka the hurt locker II: more hurt, less locker
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 03:30 (nine years ago) link
More Hurt, Less Locker, No The
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 January 2015 06:08 (nine years ago) link
So, yeah, it took Sniper all of ONE SINGLE DAY to become this year's highest-grossing best picture nominee.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4003&p=.htm
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:15 (nine years ago) link
I've followed news about its climbing grosses all weekend. And here I thought Gran Torino would be Eastwood's last box office hurrah.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link
I'm choosing to pretend that this phenomenon is strictly stemming from Eastwood worship, lest I have to once again back away from American pop culture slowly.
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link
Hollywood Obamaists circling the wagons discreetly, preferring their pro-war American exceptionalism to come from the shadowy artsiness of Bigelow-Boal.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:28 (nine years ago) link
They do that, don't they?
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link
can one circle a wagon discreetly?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link
At night. It will become less discreet soon.
This might actually push a few doc votes to Citizenfour as a "statement." (I am still thinking Last Days in Vietnam, which apparently says nothing politically.)
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
Alfred, you circle wagons COLLECTIVELY, you don't circle around one wagon. You are fired from my remake of Rio Grande.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link
He Wore a Red AIDS Ribbon
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
Rally Round the F**, Boys!
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:41 (nine years ago) link
Brokeback Stagecoach
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 January 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link
The apparent success of American Sniper seems pretty not surprising to me. Muddled morals fog of war movie, hero whose lies took traction but whose truth has my guess gone unknown by the same hyper patriots who embraced the fiction, military, Eastwood, America - it's like pan partisan movie bait. And it's probably the only best picture nom with machine guns.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 January 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link
Ludicrously enough, I think the Wes Anderson one has 'em.
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Monday, 19 January 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link
Firing? Or just soldiers standing around? I can't remember.
I noted way back when on the "Interstellar" thread how refreshing it was, love the movie or hate it, to see a big budget blockbuster with no guns or other military fetishising.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 January 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link