^ right this is what i meant
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
is it just the elegant prose that makes his m.o. different to everyone else here then
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
eh ok
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
i think his lack of moral superiority is something of a rarity here
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
it's true that at the moment I can't recall him staking out a position on anything beyond "you are stupid and I am smarter than you" (which tbf I think can be interpreted as implying a moral system that prizes intellectual superiority above all - a questionable value imo - but idk if I care enough to get into this)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
geez, the only point I was hoping to make was not that nahk's post was nonsensical, which it was not, but that stylistically speaking it was a train wreck.
― Aimless, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
I can't recall him staking out a position on anything beyond "you are stupid and I am smarter than you"
Does he do this?
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
I'm obv. so stupid I haven't noticed.
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
lucky you
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
I'd say then it's you not engaging with the arguments being made
I think if there's one overarching fallacy of the butthurt round here (not just wrt nakh) it's this idea that criticism of others' shortcomings necessarily implies a superiority complex on the part of the critic, I don't think I'm especially smart but I think I'm smarter than people I think are stupid, this is true of everyone
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
Great posters in this thread
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
It's prob been a while since the posters of this forum have been ranked and assessed
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
An old man just walked by me w/ a sideways hat that said Vulcan on it
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
^ Moral or intellectual superiority?
I'm not sure nakh's ever "hurt my butt" tbh.
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
I definitely vote for take this one outside, back to the posts with striking imagery
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
He just walked by again, on the back of the hat it says since 1956
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
Once I saw a teenager walking around Jersey City with super baggy jeans and a super-oversized t-shirt that said "Reganomics" on it.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link
actual striking imagery^
― rob, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
marcos is the new ilx darling - kinda dumb and always ready to say the right thing
― Mordy, Thursday, January 22, 2015 2:21 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is coming from deep within the hive but it reflects poorly when you reveal how smart you believe yourself to be relative to other people
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link
Smart Don't Make You Cool
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
lol remember this thread? How smart are you, relative to everyone else in ILX?
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
this is so boring
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
i think you're smart and cool, but so are most ilxors. i think your image of yourself as boldly defying the "hivemind" is deluded, though. and saying marcos is 'kinda dumb' was really gross. i don't take his lighthearted posting style as a reflection of his intelligence, i mean joe is basically a genius but he posts like a 12 year old
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:37 (nine years ago) link
sorry to everyone for continuing this but M apologised and clarified almost immediately
and marcos was BEING dumb itt
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
it's ok we're all kinda dumb
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:40 (nine years ago) link
― Mordy, Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:49 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is incredibly otm
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link
i don't want to get into a whole conversation about ilx hiveminds - i do think it's very easy to run afoul of ilx CW and i don't think the board always has a lot of tolerance for dissenting views. it's a pretty homogenous place.
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
praxis has slightly different connotations to just substitute "practice" for it ... it has a philosophical/ethical element, as opposed to just "doing" ... even though it's most often associated in terms of contemporary/modern ppl like Hannah Arendt, Gramsci, and Paolo Freire, who are not "new agey" at all ... it would probably be closer to its meaning to say "mindful practice" as opposed to just "practice"
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
nakh's m.o. is to point out the shortcomings/failings of other's posts/thoughts w elegant prose, like he's some kind of officious schoolmaster. fuck that guy.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:46 (42 minutes ago)
the schoolmaster thing is a bit awry given that afaict i am younger than 80% of the people i argue with though yeah i can be overly critical of arguments these days partly because there is a deficit of that on ilx
ilx now is often so consensual that everything congregates around the same themes etc, a sort of of sports fandom affiliation for #teamprogressives within which nobody really disagrees very much and the same complacent shit is trotted all the time without a lot of thought
like the post c&ped here was about AB (who i like) posting a guardian article from a learned member of the progressive fraternity and considering that to be in itself 'discourse'
'hivemind' is a bit unfair because it has connotations of lone wolves and sheeple, it's not so much that ilx needs a load of terribly opinionated nra members, fanatical libertarians etc to diversify everything, rather just a little less congeniality, otm, this, tbomb, ^^^^ type of stuff
― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
well i'm roping shit/fart/piss/B.O. into one general umbrella here
― J0rdan S., Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:45 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
Do not open that umbrella.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkG4oIPT7tU
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
if it helps to end this i'd like to say the following:
wins, mordy and others are right that i was being dumb itt. i barely read nakh's post and certainly not in its original context, i just had a visceral reaction to some of the ott prose in it specifically the phrase that i c&p'd over and over. calling it striking horseshit was mean, i admit, and i generally don't like to be mean in this place. i don't have a huge opinion on nakh as a poster, i am guessing he is british b/c i don't cross paths w/ him in many of the threads i post in and many of his posts seem to talk about british shit i don't understand (not just even when i'm being dumb). i do REALLY like his "high pixel images of british MPs" thread, that is amazing though. i think he also posts a lot to tracksuit-clad-mila-kunis and that thread is also great.
i like mordy and i think he is a good presence on this board, even if i see him getting in bitter fights a lot. i think he is a smart dude and i like him.
― marcos, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
<3 let's hug it out
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
I'd rather split my backcunt with a sideways pineapple than read the past two hours of this thread again
― local eire man (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
aw :)
love nakh/wins, great posters. super witty smart dudes. it's like, all the benefits of lj with none of the cons. i can't hate nakh for the harsh zings cause (1) i love a good harsh zing and (2) it fits his whole dark kubrickian evil child genius vibe. worse u can say is they at times get too high on their own supply with the vocabulary (one of these days i swear to god i will google 'apposite') & they like "glitch" music and idm too much, and a lot of the stuff on ILAFL is just... not funny. but tbh i even like those aspects too in a way, it's a whole package. A+
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
love nakh/wins, great posters. super witty smart dudes. it's like, all the benefits of lj with none of the cons.
ouch!
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
i'm just tryna rib on lj cause he kept knockin my 'nads in the trax poll
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
aw thx! I think you're doing nakh a disservice there by conflating us, he's way more thoughtful & constructive than me, I just like stupid puns and shitting up threads with pedantic meta talk
it's true that some nakhisms do not get funnier with repetition but the ones that do crack me the fuck up
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
<3 LJ unto eternity btw, top 5 even tho he sometimes ties himself in knots trying to give himself the reacharound
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
lol :)
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
welcome back flopson
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
wait what there is a thread where mila kunis wears a tracksuit
― j., Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
xp - thx, good 2 be back :)
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
it's on 77
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
you fuckin 77 fuckers
― j., Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
it's not so much that ilx needs a load of terribly opinionated nra members, fanatical libertarians etc to diversify everything, rather just a little less congeniality, otm, this, tbomb, ^^^^ type of stuff
― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:54 PM (32 minutes ago)
here we disagree. i hardly think that "congeniality" is a serious problem hereabouts. ilx, like many tightly policed spaces, is overly reliant on bullying intolerance as a means of maintaining its comfortable orthodoxy. this, more than anything, generates the complacent atmosphere you bemoan. so "hell yes!" to nuanced criticism and exploration, but you might wanna pull back on body slams you sometimes throw in their name.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
"high pixel images of british MPs" thread, that is amazing
on 77 too?
― rob, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
no its ILE, i think it is "high resolution" instead of "high pixel"
― marcos, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link