nakh's m.o. is to point out the shortcomings/failings of other's posts/thoughts w elegant prose, like he's some kind of officious schoolmaster. fuck that guy.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 19:46 (42 minutes ago)
the schoolmaster thing is a bit awry given that afaict i am younger than 80% of the people i argue with though yeah i can be overly critical of arguments these days partly because there is a deficit of that on ilx
ilx now is often so consensual that everything congregates around the same themes etc, a sort of of sports fandom affiliation for #teamprogressives within which nobody really disagrees very much and the same complacent shit is trotted all the time without a lot of thought
like the post c&ped here was about AB (who i like) posting a guardian article from a learned member of the progressive fraternity and considering that to be in itself 'discourse'
'hivemind' is a bit unfair because it has connotations of lone wolves and sheeple, it's not so much that ilx needs a load of terribly opinionated nra members, fanatical libertarians etc to diversify everything, rather just a little less congeniality, otm, this, tbomb, ^^^^ type of stuff
― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
well i'm roping shit/fart/piss/B.O. into one general umbrella here
― J0rdan S., Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:45 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
Do not open that umbrella.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkG4oIPT7tU
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
if it helps to end this i'd like to say the following:
wins, mordy and others are right that i was being dumb itt. i barely read nakh's post and certainly not in its original context, i just had a visceral reaction to some of the ott prose in it specifically the phrase that i c&p'd over and over. calling it striking horseshit was mean, i admit, and i generally don't like to be mean in this place. i don't have a huge opinion on nakh as a poster, i am guessing he is british b/c i don't cross paths w/ him in many of the threads i post in and many of his posts seem to talk about british shit i don't understand (not just even when i'm being dumb). i do REALLY like his "high pixel images of british MPs" thread, that is amazing though. i think he also posts a lot to tracksuit-clad-mila-kunis and that thread is also great.
i like mordy and i think he is a good presence on this board, even if i see him getting in bitter fights a lot. i think he is a smart dude and i like him.
― marcos, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
<3 let's hug it out
― Mordy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
I'd rather split my backcunt with a sideways pineapple than read the past two hours of this thread again
― local eire man (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
aw :)
love nakh/wins, great posters. super witty smart dudes. it's like, all the benefits of lj with none of the cons. i can't hate nakh for the harsh zings cause (1) i love a good harsh zing and (2) it fits his whole dark kubrickian evil child genius vibe. worse u can say is they at times get too high on their own supply with the vocabulary (one of these days i swear to god i will google 'apposite') & they like "glitch" music and idm too much, and a lot of the stuff on ILAFL is just... not funny. but tbh i even like those aspects too in a way, it's a whole package. A+
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
love nakh/wins, great posters. super witty smart dudes. it's like, all the benefits of lj with none of the cons.
ouch!
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
i'm just tryna rib on lj cause he kept knockin my 'nads in the trax poll
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
aw thx! I think you're doing nakh a disservice there by conflating us, he's way more thoughtful & constructive than me, I just like stupid puns and shitting up threads with pedantic meta talk
it's true that some nakhisms do not get funnier with repetition but the ones that do crack me the fuck up
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
<3 LJ unto eternity btw, top 5 even tho he sometimes ties himself in knots trying to give himself the reacharound
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
lol :)
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
welcome back flopson
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
wait what there is a thread where mila kunis wears a tracksuit
― j., Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
xp - thx, good 2 be back :)
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
it's on 77
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
you fuckin 77 fuckers
― j., Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
it's not so much that ilx needs a load of terribly opinionated nra members, fanatical libertarians etc to diversify everything, rather just a little less congeniality, otm, this, tbomb, ^^^^ type of stuff
― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:54 PM (32 minutes ago)
here we disagree. i hardly think that "congeniality" is a serious problem hereabouts. ilx, like many tightly policed spaces, is overly reliant on bullying intolerance as a means of maintaining its comfortable orthodoxy. this, more than anything, generates the complacent atmosphere you bemoan. so "hell yes!" to nuanced criticism and exploration, but you might wanna pull back on body slams you sometimes throw in their name.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
"high pixel images of british MPs" thread, that is amazing
on 77 too?
― rob, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
no its ILE, i think it is "high resolution" instead of "high pixel"
― marcos, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
xp contenderizer, depends on who he is targeting. by targeting "safe" posts made by popular posters, nakh is provoking them to defend positions that otherwise would be taken for granted, reinvigorating debate (in theory.) this is really different from someone bullying unpopular posters whose views don't align with the consensus. this kind of behavior is what restricts conversations
― Treeship, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
ty, can a britisher tell me who the hell this is: high resolution photos of british mps
― rob, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
should also mention that ilx's self-policing reflexes have more positives than negatives as this is the only board i know of that isn't spammed constantly with overtly ignorant posts. but the self-congratulatory echo chamber phenomenon nakh mentions is also a real thing
― Treeship, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
i like most of you else i wouldn't post here, j get on 77 and stop prevaricating (although that thread does not feature that much kunis, sadly)
i have liked shakey for most of his ilx tenure but not so much recently now that he addresses not some but almost all of his posts as if he was responding to a reactionary commentbox moron on a newspaper website who doesn't exist on ilx
'lol sure obama is going to bomb russia'
'lol yeah aids was def invented by china' etc
― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
i am old school, the whole idea of a secret ilx borad saddens me
― j., Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:07 (nine years ago) link
? people develop strange impressions
xp
I am against 77 in principle j otm
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
oh please. get ur butts in there
― flopson, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link
if it hasn't happened yet it's never going to happen. I'm sure you all miss my presence v much.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
yeah I get the idea that certain posters' wrong ideas of what 77 is calcified a while ago
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
it is a shame!
i love how cuddlestein this thread got
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
fu
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
my 77 issue is that iirc it's a feeb move to request an invite
― rob, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
I would nominate any of yis if that helps
― local eire man (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
― Treeship, Thursday, January 22, 2015 2:03 PM (34 minutes ago)
o yeah, agree completely w/ you there. there's truth to the "self-congratulatory echo chamber" accusation, too, but i'm dubious about the potential positive effects of an upsurge in brutal takedowns.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link
― rob, Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:18 PM (38 minutes ago)
the original son—like when frats make you wear a dress and get paddled for rush
― j., Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link
77 is a crut enterprise, anyone who thinks it could have any meanspiritedness at its core is wrong.
― estela, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link
lex iirc
― local eire man (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
77 effectively a refuge from meanspiritedness when irl shitheads are targetting identifiable posters on the rest of ilx
― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link
^
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:43 (7 minutes ago)
sure but brutal takedowns are not remotely the only or the best response to that, treesh is a good example of someone who has no interest in that sort of style but is inimical to 'otm'
partly this is because of the concretization of experience afters on the internet and tiredness with saying shit, as seen in the recent and hopefully shortlived parodic use of 'hot take'
that 14 yr old derrida thread someone revived the other day was full of takes so caustically hot that derrida died of the radiation burns two years later, but even in that very naive discursive mode it produced content because there was a strong enough diversity amoing the takes and a certain level of care
― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:22 (nine years ago) link
/after years on the internet/
― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:23 (nine years ago) link
as seen in the recent and hopefully shortlived parodic use of 'hot take'
seems like ilx is a little more porous to usage trends happening in the wider internet esp. twitter. it still has it's somewhat hermetic character (we still say "otm") but less self-enclosed than it used to be.
just so it stays distinct enough from chan or reddit speak and i'll be fine. as soon as people start with "tfw" jokes i am fucking gone
― goole, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link
http://www.trainingforwarriors.com/what-is-tfw/
― local eire man (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
so glad I don't know what that means
― the top 40 is just the sound of autotuned crying (sleeve), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
next generation of hip posters are getting old enough that they are scrambling for signifiers of youth as they age out of the sweet demographic spot; this is cyclical and i've been there
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link
sorry i meant 'mfw' though i think t is used at times too
― goole, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link
― goole, Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:26 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
tfw no 77
― 龜, Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:33 (nine years ago) link
ofc is the most rubbish recent internet abbrev ppl are saying a lot
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link