there's a shock
― k3vin k., Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
btw ppl with interest in cop killings should read the recent new yorker piece on the ABQ police department
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/02/son-deceased
― k3vin k., Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
I know right? could it be any more stereotypical
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
That New Yorker article is fucking insane
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntjsAuLn5OM
― polyphonic, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
dude literally walking by on the phone
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8fE-lrCMAAnW-w.jpg
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
Should probably go in the police brutality/corruption thread but: http://gawker.com/seattle-pd-sorry-about-arresting-70-year-old-black-vete-1682456896/
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
ha ha at that little fireplug cop in polyphonic's video. What a mental case.
― how's life, Thursday, 29 January 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
But yeah, the other thread for this, guys.
that NYer article is seriously depressing
― Nhex, Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:15 (nine years ago) link
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:07 AM (1 hour ago)
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
and depressing, yeah
― A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
partner of con man james o'keefe creates elaborate activist persona online & in person, then goes to garner & trayvon protests with camera asking leading questions on tape, which o'keefe selectively edits & nypost runs as "GARNER WAS NO ANGEL"
http://animalnewyork.com/2015/heres-person-trolled-erica-garner-neocon-man-james-okeefe/
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
wrongful death suit being filed
also this summation of the DOJ report is nuts: http://news.yahoo.com/fergusons-conspiracy-against-black-citizens-130000799.html
90,000 citations in a city of 21,000 over 4 years
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
“I worry that he’ll still be a casualty of history,” Mr. Roorda [Jeff Roorda, a spokesman for the St. Louis Police Officers Association] said in an interview on Thursday. “Fifty years from now, he’ll still be the white police officer who shot an unarmed black teen. - NYT
i have such complicated feelings about this quote
― the late great, Friday, 6 March 2015 06:57 (nine years ago) link
clearly though jeff roorda hasn't learned a damn thing from all of this
― the late great, Friday, 6 March 2015 06:58 (nine years ago) link
goodgrief
― bernard snowy, Friday, 6 March 2015 07:18 (nine years ago) link
tbf it is his job to say shit like that
― the late great, Friday, 6 March 2015 07:20 (nine years ago) link
that was a bizarre quote, because yes, that is literally true. he will always be a white police officer who shot and killed an unarmed black teen.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 6 March 2015 08:41 (nine years ago) link
right?
― the late great, Friday, 6 March 2015 08:50 (nine years ago) link
I join Jeff Roorda in wishing for a greater awareness of the many white police officers that shoot unarmed black teens, to diffuse the focus on Darren Wilson.
A friend has also pointed out that the behaviour described by the DoJ report is pretty similar to that of an occupying army who don't want to create too much hassle for the installed government while still pillaging as much as possible.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 March 2015 09:24 (nine years ago) link
occupying army or a gang, basically
http://theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/The-Gangsters-Of-Ferguson/386893/
― joygoat, Friday, 6 March 2015 09:51 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/articles/justice-department-calls-on-ferguson-to-align-leve,38155/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 March 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
WASHINGTON—Describing its policing practices as totally out of step with the nation as a whole, the U.S. Department of Justice called on Ferguson, MO to take immediate action to align its level of institutional racism with the rest of the country, sources said Thursday. “Our findings suggest that Ferguson requires profound changes to its criminal justice system to bring its routine violations of African-American civil rights in line with acceptable amounts present in police precincts across America,” said Attorney General Eric Holder, adding that a top-to-bottom overhaul could be required to square the Ferguson Police Department’s use of illegal searches and unlawful arrests with the remainder of the U.S. “Ferguson simply cannot continue living in a past in which its reliance on intimidation and excessive force flies in the face of reasonable levels of brutality elsewhere in the country.” Holder went on to say that without reform, residents of Ferguson could never hope to treat their police with the same level of mistrust as everyone else.
2 cops shot and carried away by ambulance to the hospital during a protest outside the PD HQ. Some people on twitter are saying the shots came from a house on a hill down the street (and Buzzfeed was saying that too until their rolling article took that bit out). btw, don't read what's under the #ferguson hashtag on twitter right now unless you're in the mood to get angry as fuck at racist a-holes.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 March 2015 06:17 (nine years ago) link
this is one of the worst things that could happen
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
yup :/
― k3vin k., Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link
I can think of worse things (cops firing into the crowd in response, for ex.)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
based on my gut, i think it was an inside job
― flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
I doubt it, one of those cops was shot in the face
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link
Yeah come on spazzmatazz
― Treeship, Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
it could happen. the stakes are high, and the FPD is dumb and crazy. i don't know. the situation remains surreal & horrifying, unmatched by anything in my lifetime except 9/11. is the plan just a war of attrition until the spirit of ferguson is COMPLETELY obliterated?
― flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Friday, 13 March 2015 00:06 (nine years ago) link
I think it could have been some rogue person trying to stir up anger against the protesters. I don't think the FPD would shoot one of their own in the face
― primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Friday, 13 March 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link
Is it really that unfathomable that someone would want to shoot at a cop in Ferguson? I mean no need to go into Lorax territory.
Unacceptable in any regard...violence/shootings never acceptable. But yea this is going to walk back a lot of the goodwill and undermine the gains the ground movement made. Avoiding hashtags (ie #bluelivesmatter ugh)
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 13 March 2015 00:16 (nine years ago) link
― flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Thursday, March 12, 2015 8:06 PM (14 minutes ago)
come on man
― k3vin k., Friday, 13 March 2015 00:20 (nine years ago) link
i always thought the strength of ferguson as an organizing event was its very mundanity - that it was not a unique situation throughout the country, not something particularly "surreal" unless you hadn't been paying attention at all
― Mordy, Friday, 13 March 2015 00:29 (nine years ago) link
imo it is the reaction/response that was/is surreal, the degree of state repression and media silencing was higher than anything I've seen since the 1999 Seattle protests. not defending the rest of that quote though.
― sleeve, Friday, 13 March 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
The whole reason the Dillon Taylor shooting was more a back page story vs Trayvon/Michael Brown was because of the massive groundswell that emerged in both cases for the very reason Mordy mentions. Two states far apart, different circumstances, but organizers who refused to let the story die. The mood in Ferguson isn't surreal to anybody but the folks being targeted by the protests and that's kind of the point.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 13 March 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
craziness.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 13 March 2015 00:57 (nine years ago) link
the deployment of tanks and insane military gear and the media blackout were what was so surreal to me fwiw. and yes, it was probably a citizen. only way this (military occupation) will let up for even a second is if the whole department is fired
― flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:22 (nine years ago) link
I think the dunderheaded (to put it kindly) response of local police forces to the protests was 90% of the reason why ferguson became a major media event.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:44 (nine years ago) link
in some way that part of the narrative has been lost -- a lot of people had been talking about the militarization of police forces, but now the "movement" seems to be about the obviously related but not precisely identical issue of police abuse/killing of young black men.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link
i shouldn't say "lost" -- maybe just marginalized a bit.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:48 (nine years ago) link
and i don't think we have to imagine some kind of 'false flag' operation here... there are tons of people angry with the ferguson police, and some of those people are bound to be hotheads/idiots. and we live in a society with a ton of firearms. it's not unimaginable that this would happen. aside from the cops who got shot--and as stupid as the ferguson PD was/is, noone deserves to be shot and we have no idea what these particular cops were like anyhow--the worst part of this is that it will amplify the backlash a thousand fold.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link
well, I don't have much to say about this, but it happened.
http://jacquelinevalencia.com/2015/03/15/thoughts-on-kenneth-goldsmith-and-michael-brown/
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2015 11:53 (nine years ago) link
I don't even know what to say about that
― DJP, Monday, 16 March 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
Goldsmith does not belittle his material as a poet. As Dj Kenny G, he engaged the topic on the air on WFMU the day after the Grand Jury refused to indict using sick humor, but it remains fairly clear what side he is on, especially at the end of the show: http://wfmu.org/flashplayer.php?version=2&show=58274&archive=118775
― Three Word Username, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
kenneth goldsmith is terrible
― 1staethyr, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
kenneth goldsmith is not terrible.
― primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link