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*falls off of chair*

Banned on the Run (benbbag), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 02:48 (nine years ago) link

isn't "vaccination choice" the current system?

poxy fülvous (abanana), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 06:55 (nine years ago) link

isn't "vaccination choice" the current system?

Strictly speaking, yes. Many public school systems will not allow you to enroll your child without proof of vaccinations. However, the anti-vaccination crowd probably has a good-sized overlap with the home school crowd.

Seems weird that this issue has enough traction to get play in a presidential campaign. That is very wtf.

Aimless, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link

the anti-vaccination crowd probably has a good-sized overlap with the home school crowd

The two I know are home schooling their kids, so that checks out.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link

In MS, homeschooling is just about the only way to successfully avoid vaccinating one's kids. There's a bill pending that would allow homeschooled kids to play sports and join extracurricular clubs in their local public school district, allowing them to have all the fun stuff without having to deal with any of that pesky education crap; I hope that bill plugs the vaxx loophole.

it takes 14 to make a baby (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

Dems will convene in Philly; moldy Frank Rizzo to be re-animated to lead police riots vs protests.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 February 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Walker compares labor unions to ISIS. This dude is really a treat.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/26/scott-walker-cpac_n_6756724.html

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Friday, 27 February 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

Chrischrischristie now giving Jeb-is-Establishment soundbites

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 February 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link

yeah fuck scott walker, can't wait to watch this asshole circle the drain for the next few election cycles, gingrich-style.

pursuit of happiness (art), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link

same re: ted cruz who somehow manages to look like a smug fetus in a reagan wig over the radio

pursuit of happiness (art), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link

thanks for that image

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link

New DN? Nah...

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Friday, 27 February 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link

Walker's campaign spokeswoman emailed the following statement: "Governor Walker believes our fight against ISIS is one of the most important issues our country faces. He was in no way comparing any American citizen to ISIS. What the governor was saying was when faced with adversity he chooses strength and leadership. Those are the qualities we need to fix the leadership void this White House has created."

Hahaha, walking it back already, Mr. Tough Talk?

Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Friday, 27 February 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link

*He's* not walking it back, he's got one of his lackeys doing it for him.

Godsleee You Black Emperor (Leee), Friday, 27 February 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's what he /does/

he blows the dog whistle, then allows other people to "clarify" for him

could not really hate this man more

I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 27 February 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

O'Malley salvo

“Triangulation is not a strategy that will move America forward,” O’Malley said, referring to a term for compromise that was coined during the presidency of Bill Clinton. “History celebrates profiles in courage, not profiles in convenience.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/02/28/omalley-serves-notice-to-wall-street-ahead-of-possible-presidential-bid/

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link

you're no Jack Kennedy etc

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

HRC is sufficiently Nixonian for me not to care

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link

hm she is kinda Nixonian. maybe not as sweaty

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link

gets her principles wherever the votes are, just like Dick.

The New Populist Hillary being prep'd for rollout

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link

the similarity in their career arcs is interesting - made it to the White House, leaves on a sour note, reinvents self as elder stateswoman, hangs around long enough/collects enough chits to be guaranteed the nomination. and then on the personal level she does seem awkward and nervous and not all that likable. digs wars, especially ones that are politically expedient on the domestic front. hates her spouse.

it all makes sense

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

nah i don't think RMN hated Pat, at all

he gave her more reason to hate him

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

He's the one who always said during Vietnam and Cambodia that he couldn't stand pat.

pplains, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

sock it to you!

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

considering today's email news, Nixon looks like a self-taping amateur in comparison to Hillary

Brad C., Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

he treated her like a dog he enjoyed kicking (in addition to Checkers)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

she is likely (we can hope) less mentally disturbed; a high-functioning professional sociopath

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

those oval office tapes are a gift to posterity

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

Pierce:

She had to know what this would mean because she's lived her whole life under The Clinton Rules, by which every glitch is a crime, and every blunder is a conspiracy. It's not entirely fair, and we'll get to that in a minute, but somebody on the nascent campaign should have been D'd up for this kind of thing. A campaign by Hillary Clinton is a different thing, and anyone who doesn't know this by now is somebody who needs burping on the half-hour. This screw-up has all the earmarks of a campaign still laboring under the ghost of Mark Penn.

And yes, I am Troubled by the whole lack of transparency thing, too.

All of that said, the Times story is pretty full of fudge. It's not clear whether Clinton and her aides are being accused of violating the regulations of the National Archives, or some undefined federal law, or simply the delicate sensibilities of various watchdog groups. The history of whatever regulations are under discussion is absent from the story entirely.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a33436/hillary-clinton-finds-a-rake-to-step-on-the-first-clinton-bombshell/

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link

those oval office tapes are a gift to posterity

Hillary is, sadly, not the comedy goldmine that Nixon is. Bill comes close though.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

at least now we know where all those e-mails about benghazi went amirite

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

there are so many things about this story I am not understanding, particularly related to State and White House IT policies and their administration ... did Hill just say, "No worries, I'll stick with Hotmail" and everyone else nodded?

Brad C., Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

If the Anyone But Clinton forces are going to pin their hopes on a champion, they'd better kick things into a higher gear.

Aimless, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link

it's not gonna happen. there's no one with the money.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:59 (nine years ago) link

not looking forward to a decade of hillary clinton scandals if they're all gonna be this boring

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

don't worry I'm sure at some point she'll shoot somebody in the face or something

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

at least we'll always have bill, though even he's kind of boring these days

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

The emails are preserved, spokesman said.

A spokesman for Hillary Rodham Clinton said Tuesday that while she used a personal e-mail account during her years as secretary of State, those records have been maintained pursuant to federal rules.

“Both the letter and spirit of the rules permitted State Department officials to use non-government email, as long as appropriate records were preserved,” said Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill. “As a result of State’s request for our help to make sure they in fact were, that is what happened here.”

Merrill responded to a New York Times story saying that Clinton, a prospective presidential candidate in 2016, used a personal e-mail account during her four years at the State Department and “may have violated federal requirements that officials’ correspondence be retained as part of the agency’s record.”

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link

I would think that it's pretty impossible to delete e-mails tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link

btw Christie down to 35% approval as NJ gov

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

and 5 percent at CPAC.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link

*insert food-related metaphor for "finished"*

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

bbbbut who is going to be the co-star in this Infotainment Scam?

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

there are so many things about this story I am not understanding, particularly related to State and White House IT policies and their administration ... did Hill just say, "No worries, I'll stick with Hotmail" and everyone else nodded?

― Brad C., Tuesday, March 3, 2015 5:36 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

honestly I think this is exactly what happened

but yeah emails on personal devices is a nightmare for dealing with lawsuits, document preservation, etc. it blows up the scope of the universe of discoverable documents almost exponentially.

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

can't wait for Ben Carson's campaign of idiocy

akm, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link

@bartongellman · 7h
I don’t care who the Clintons hired: it is not possible for a high value target to secure a home-managed email server. Except from FOIA.

@ggreenwald · 9h
Clinton's practice of keeping personal emails meant they were kept out of FOIA searches: how is that remotely OK?

@ggreenwald · 23h
Watching MSNBC on the Hillary/email stuff is remarkable, even if you go in knowing what to expect.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link


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