A thread for JUSTIFIED, a TV show on FX starring Timothy Olyphant

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Goggins has just signed on to co-star w/ Danny McBride on a new HBO comedy from the Eastbound and Down creator. I approve of this development.

Simon H., Wednesday, 11 February 2015 23:57 (nine years ago) link

The Wiz going kaboom elicited long and lusty laughter

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 February 2015 03:48 (nine years ago) link

Oh man that made me really nervous for about two hours and I couldn't sleep. Funny, though!

Sam Elliot is really doing a amazing job of being the final-level boss of Justified bad guys.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 12 February 2015 10:37 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I suddenly got the feeling after this week's episode that Raylan is going to make a play for some of that $10M near the end, maybe just a little slice of that pie.

WilliamC, Thursday, 12 March 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link

http://www.vulture.com/2015/03/tv-review-justified-final-season.html

j., Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link

last episode's series of betrayals was a bit up and down; the season has been redemptive tho'

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link

Great season so far. The last 4-5 episodes have all been exceptionally tense, but it's still fun. I was worried the show was gonna get too edgy and dark in the leadup to the big finish. And for sure Eva's story has made up for her lousy lot in the last season.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 March 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link

It's really good this season, which just makes me even more annoyed at how crap it was last season.

trishyb, Friday, 27 March 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

did they swap out showrunners/writers or something?

j., Friday, 27 March 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

Damn, they're picking up the pace.
poor mikey

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 07:05 (nine years ago) link

I got hold of one of the Elmore Leonard Raylan Givens books recently. The 2nd one Riding the Rap. Found it in a charity shop. Hadn't been aware how much he'd appeared in print. The credits to the show mention a short story.
Anyway it's Leonard so it's quite readable.
Apparently there's a pre-Justified tv movie of the 1st book called Pronto. I looked for a torrent of it but couldn't find one. It stars someone who later turned up as a Justified character.

I don't remember not enjoying the last series before the current one. Was it widely panned?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 07:57 (nine years ago) link

Mikey's last second change of heart on Wynn's behalf seemed forced and false to me. What the hell did he think Katherine was going to do with Duffy when he (M) called her to give him (D) up -- give him a stern talking-to? This season is running out of steam (Givens is still too much a bystander in his own show), but still much better than last season. I figure Sam Elliott and Scary Babyface will get theirs in the next episode, then the final Givens/Ava/Boyd showdown in the finale.

Graham Yost was on Fresh Air last Thursday -- pretty good interview. Apparently Elmore Leonard was more hands-off than I would have guessed. He hated getting story notes when he wrote for the screen, so he didn't give out many himself.

If there was going to be a spinoff from this show, I wish it would be built on the Rachel Brooks character. A 2-front fight against the bad guys and racism/sexism from her own colleagues would be an interesting show. Mullen and Vasquez have both committed nut-punching offenses against her this season.

WilliamC, Thursday, 2 April 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link

What are folks' thoughts on the idea of Wynn and Mikey as a couple? I feel like there were hints dropped, but obviously nothing definitive, ever. Still, some of the stuff they argued about felt like it went a little beyond boss/henchman.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 2 April 2015 15:13 (nine years ago) link

I didn't get any sense of it until Mikey's "Hold me, Wynn" death, but that was more of a reference to the end of Reservoir Dogs than anything.

WilliamC, Thursday, 2 April 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link

This season in particular has got a lot of humour from the fact that Wynn & Michael have an unhealthy intimate relationship for an employer and his employee/goon/manservant. The show has never been above gay jokes so it's possible they meant to creepily sexualise it for Smithers lols; in any case Michael's preposterous late burst of fealty to his abusive employer and subsequent fight was one of the most audacious things they've done so far in terms of violence implausibility & bad taste.

Personally I think this series has been fucking great. Steenburger & Elliot have been killing it & all the convolutions/side characters haven't killed the momentum the way they occasionally have before (despite the grand raylan/boyd endgamd being completely sidelined!)

Finn McCoolit (wins), Thursday, 2 April 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link

My predictions a few episodes in were 1) Raylan will obv end up in that grave like they've been foreshadowing for fucking ever, and 2) this legal weed land grabbing plot is clearly just an excuse to have Raylan say "realitor" one more time this season. Ridiculously I was only right about one of those.

xp sorry I got a bit av club there I didn't really mean to say "audacious"

Finn McCoolit (wins), Thursday, 2 April 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link

Finale tonight. I'm gonna miss it, but this has been a fine last season.

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link

yeah, they went out on a high if occasionally absurd note after a dud of a prior season.
my money is on dead boyd and badly injured raylan going home to daughter and wife in florida, likely dead ava.

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link

I'm betting on Boyd, Markham, Boon as the only casualties.

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

And possibly Wynn.

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

Markham for sure, gunslinger asshole kid for sure. I can't believe they're going to kill wynn; he's unkillable.
most of the marshalls should survive.

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link

Art will likely live, as he had his near-death scare. I make no predictions on Raylan, Boyd, Boone, Markham, or Wynn.

I will throw my television through the window if they kill Rachel or Tim.

Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link

Boyd, Boone, Markham, Ava: dead
Raylan: alive if injured.
Wynn: Still living in the year 3000

Clay, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link

Awwww, man. I'll be major bummed if they kill Ava. I love her with my heart.

Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link

she has burned a lot of bridges

Clay, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link

i find rachel to be the weakest actor on that show by far and a general disappointment whenever she enters the storyline. they don't know what to do with her and she isn't helping.
killing tim would be a dumb move.
If they kill raylan, i wouldn't be shocked but it seems like they need closure with his daughter/wife if they go that route and i dunno how they manage it.

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link

and I feel like they have to kill somebody who the audience would hurt for XP to myself

Clay, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link

It would certainly take this already great season to a legendary ending if they have the balls to kills Ava and/or Raylan, amongst others.

Actually, I'm kind of convincing myself that Ava is gonna die. Boyd, too. Not Bonnie and Clyde style, but they're the two who want to get out of Harlan the most, and like the song says...

Raylan already got out. He's there by choice. He's not gonna die. Injured, yes.

Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link

yep.
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/04/justified-a-rebel-of-golden-age-television/390486/

So many shows add secondary characters who turn out to be poorly developed, or opt not to add any at all precisely because it’s so hard to do them right. But from the rollicking mafia man turned informant Wynn Duffy, to the ruthless Robert Quarles, to this season’s leathery, magnetic big bad Avery Markham (Sam Elliott, another actor born to be on Justified), the show’s recurring characters—its villains, especially—were rarely thinly written, and always a ton of fun.

I say rarely because the fifth season of the show was what can be best described as a creative misfire. Michael Rapaport, who played the main villain that season, was the show’s first and only serious miscasting. The plot, normally intricate and layered in the best way possible, became unnecessarily convoluted in the same way that many shows that are on the air for a while tend to do. Even at its worst moments, Justified was still a good show—certainly better than most—and it’s miraculous that it didn’t fail much more than just once, given how fearless it was at taking familiar TV conventions and turning them on their heads.

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

Well that was a lot more low-key and bittersweet than I was expecting. I liked it!

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 06:17 (nine years ago) link

i'm gonna have to think on this one but yeah i think they made good decisions. not predictable!

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 06:22 (nine years ago) link

best decision: Raylan/Winona not working out. absolutely true to both characters.

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 06:32 (nine years ago) link

my girl said definitively "she wouldn't be with that guy" and then wouldn't elucidate

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 06:55 (nine years ago) link

Has she already forgotten Gary?

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 13:23 (nine years ago) link

the hat thing was very silly

creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Thursday, 16 April 2015 07:35 (nine years ago) link

The hat thing was poor judgement. The whole scene with Ava, I was distracted by the stupid hat with its stupid little tag on the brim.

trishyb, Thursday, 16 April 2015 08:28 (nine years ago) link

Terrific show, terrific finale, and the first season where I didn't think "well that was good, but not season 2 good".

Anyway I am stoked they went for a happyish ending with the central cast all surviving, and somehow not being a copout at all. In fact it seemed like the best of all possible choices for an ending.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Been avoiding this thread cuz I still need to see the last season - want to do it binge style - but I finally got around to watching what I THOUGHT was an inxs doc I dvr'ed on Showtime which turned out to be the second half of an Australian tv miniseries about the band, chronicling the miniseries. Took me a sec to realize DEWEY CROWE was playing their manager, demanding they tour and screaming "you're not nick cave!" at hutchence after Max Q and "you're not grunge!" during Welcome to wherever you are. Very disorienting, even if I was vaguely aware he wasn't from the US.

da croupier, Friday, 15 May 2015 12:27 (nine years ago) link

Whoops, I meant to write "chronicling the post-kick years"

da croupier, Friday, 15 May 2015 12:39 (nine years ago) link

A few nights ago I watched Nell, for some reason. Nick Searcy and Jeremy Davies are both in it, and play characters pretty similar to those they play in Justified.

polyphonic, Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link

Anyway I am stoked they went for a happyish ending with the central cast all surviving, and somehow not being a copout at all. In fact it seemed like the best of all possible choices for an ending.

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:20 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this really impressed and stuck with me. especially in contrast to the Sons Of Anarchy finale.

Justified became a pretty entertaining circus of scenery-chewing character actors by the end. Boon was an especially fun character, considering that i'd previously only seen him as a total wimp on Parenthood and in a couple of horror movies.

some dude, Saturday, 16 May 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

just finished this up. final season was so good and the finale was perfect. such a weirdly heartwarming ending w boyd in the prison. those two had such great chemistry. really grew to love his interaction with his partner tim too. gonna miss this show a lot.

Spottie, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 08:06 (eight years ago) link

in retrospect, i was really happy with that ending.

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 08:36 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I must cop to not really enjoying Elmore's novels, but I was missing Justified and picked up Freaky Deaky to get a fix. It's terrific - first Leonard book I really enjoyed. Maybe seeing his writing through the prism of Justified has fixed it for me - or maybe it's just a pretty good book. The hero is very Raylan-esque, kind of tough, sadsack asshole but very likeable. In fact he's much more like Raylan than the guy in Pronto or Riding the Rap.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

Started watching this show a few weeks ago, waiting for Better Call Saul, and I'm in love with everything about it. I had some weird ill conceived idea about F/X television shows that was unjustified. Ha, anyway about to finished the second season and I foresee it only getting better.

JacobSanders, Monday, 13 June 2016 00:54 (eight years ago) link

it's one of the best shows of the past decade, full stop.

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Monday, 13 June 2016 01:17 (eight years ago) link

Re-watched Season 2 earlier this week myself (I own the first two on DVD, watched 3-6 via Amazon). Really solid, and even funnier than I remembered. I think I'm gonna re-watch Season 3 and see if I like it better than I did at the time (Neal McDonough's and Mykelti Williamson's characters both bugged me).

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 13 June 2016 01:21 (eight years ago) link

I always found it very satisfying

wins, Monday, 13 June 2016 01:22 (eight years ago) link

Loved every season

Spottie, Monday, 13 June 2016 01:39 (eight years ago) link


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