Oscars 2015

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It won the WGA and the BAFTA, so it's not that daring.

Eric H., Tuesday, 17 February 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

I def think GBH is winning at least 3 or 4. Just not the big ones.

Eric H., Tuesday, 17 February 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

just do what i do and read wikipedia pages about obscure soviet apparatchiks killed in stalin's purges

― I dunno. (amateurist)

what I was reading about last week: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marozia

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

4th of Harris' 5 prediction columns:

http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/oscar-predictions-part-4-the-acting-categories/

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link

most entertainingly headsploding result of the night wd be Citizenfour for doc, Am Sniper for, well let's say best actor.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link

also hadn't realized before reading E's piece today that the best actresses' films only got ONE other nomination total.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/oscar-winner-predictions-2015-actress

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

That's not exactly what I was saying. I was saying the three actresses who are most dominant in their film (i.e. most screen time) only got one other nod. Useless Jones' movie got 5 nods.

Eric H., Thursday, 19 February 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

ok got it

(drugged)

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link

Which, at the risk of incriminating myself, isn't to say that those clamoring for a solution to the problem are any less toxic, diminishing the merits of Moore's valiant, stricken performance in Still Alice as though it's a crime against humanity that she's going to collect her overdue Oscar for a disease-of-the-month melodrama and not for, say, flashing her bush in Robert Altman's Short Cuts or telling Marky Mark where he can put his money shot in Boogie Nights. Many refuse to examine the ways Moore, a dependably controlling performer, wrestles with the material, and how that struggle enriches the plight of her character facing early-onset Alzheimer's disease. And they're the same ones endorsing Cotillard (perfectly fine in a role that mainly asks her to cry and collapse) simply by virtue of her appearing in a more respectable film, engaging in an equally deleterious practice of equating "best actress" with "any female performer who happens to appear in the movie I'm the least embarrassed to be talking about."

otm

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 February 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

also: cranky because an hour ago I had written something similar

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 February 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link

I'm cranky because Mark Harris basically started to make the exact same points as I did and then said, "but that's for another time." X(

Eric H., Thursday, 19 February 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link

last of a Fandor series: aternate Oscars, this one post-1980s

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/the-alt-oscars-and-now-for-the-nominees

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 February 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link

Mark Harris' final predictions. Best Picture essay worth reading:

http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/final-oscar-predictions-who-will-win-on-sunday/

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

does Robin, Shirley or Mickey win the obit montage?

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link

oh, Temple died before last year's Oscars, PSH too

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

Academy member John Boorman on Boyhood:

What have you liked that you’ve seen lately?

Of course I’m voting [for the Oscars], so I’ve seen everything that’s around. I have to say that in the foreign language category, there are three films — “Timbuktu,” “Leviathan” and “Ida” — that are head and shoulders above anything in the English-speaking film world. They’re magnificent films. Daring and full of conviction.

What do you think of the films that are in the best picture race?

“Birdman” is a fascinating film, made with some of the daring that I was missing elsewhere. “Boyhood” seems to be the front-runner, it won every critics award, but I was a bit disappointed in it because the boy turned out to be rather uninteresting. His sister was much more interesting, but we don’t see much of her. All the things that boys get up to in my experience as a father, like not doing their homework and smoking and getting into fights, none of that seemed to happen to this kid.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 February 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link

most entertainingly headsploding result of the night wd be /Citizenfour/ for doc, /Am Sniper/ for, well let's say best actor.
--touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius)

entirely possible - if nowhere near a lock - that this happens, tbh.

slothroprhymes, Saturday, 21 February 2015 14:10 (nine years ago) link

John Boorman overestimates Ida

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 February 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link

and Birdman.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 February 2015 16:40 (nine years ago) link

I read a bit of speculation, are people really so dumb that they are actually arguing that it matters which way the 2- and 3- favorites will be checked? If a film need 50% of the vote to win, then it doesn't matter. There can't both be 50% with Birdman over Boyhood, and 50% with Boyhood over Birdman.

Frederik B, Saturday, 21 February 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

It means that, for people who put movies that aren't Boy or Bird at #1, they still have votes that matter.

poxy fülvous (abanana), Sunday, 22 February 2015 07:20 (nine years ago) link

well The Times clearly has itself a crystal ball judging from the Julianna Moore Best Actress splash at the top of the page

http://40.media.tumblr.com/730a781054a3f31795019cf22ae0c17d/tumblr_nk58np1ZxU1u5f06vo1_1280.jpg

piscesx, Sunday, 22 February 2015 09:02 (nine years ago) link

It means that, for people who put movies that aren't Boy or Bird at #1, they still have votes that matter.

― poxy fülvous (abanana), 22. februar 2015 08:20 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Right, that's not what I'm talking about. But some of the pundits are saying, that if Selma and Theory of Everything are the nominees with least support, then since their #2 votes will be added first, the big question is which film those voters also liked. But that is nonsense. Birdboy might be in a tight race, but they can't both be in front of the other on 51% of the ballots, no matter which way they are counted.

Right?

Frederik B, Sunday, 22 February 2015 14:10 (nine years ago) link

tried to find Eric's "Birdman's not winning best picture" post

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link

he's read the tea though

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure it was in detrius somewhere.

Eric H., Sunday, 22 February 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

I'm not predicting the director/pic split either.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 February 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

Argo years aside, you never should. Which is what screwed everyone out of perfect scores last year.

Eric H., Sunday, 22 February 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link

drinking rules, anyone?

niels, Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

Don't drive.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

Boorman otm about boyhood

da croupier, Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

Not sure I needed mason to smoke and punch per se, but his placidity made the film anticlimactic

da croupier, Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

my favorite present-day Mason scene isn't with the girl in the desert but the one in the bar where he listens to his dad with affection and mild teen contempt babble on and on about Charlie Sexton.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

I was like, "Mason Jr. otm"

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah I really appreciated seeing him lose a little esteem for his dad with maturity.

da croupier, Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

i don't think i have any way to watch the whorefest tonight, and im ok with that.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

watch it on your Morbsphone.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

"they can't both be in front of the other on 51% of the ballots" is right.
"the big question is which film those voters also liked. But that is nonsense." is wrong. prognosticators are used to the american voting system, and having to take everyone's opinion into account requires a mental adjustment.

poxy fülvous (abanana), Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

Okay, I try again. The nonsensical part is focusing especially on Selma and Theory of Everything, as if Birdboy could create a majority through those votes, while Boyman would have the majority if the votes from American Sniper and Whiplash were counted instead. But there can only be a majority for one film, so it doesn't matter which way they are counted.

Frederik B, Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

I want Boyman to win lots of awards, and I've cleared the night, so I'll watch the whole show, which I haven't done for a few years. (I generally listen while piddling around on the computer in the adjacent room.) When Birdman wins, I'll be sure to already dislike it when I finally get around to seeing it.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:19 (nine years ago) link

Boyman a better title for the Innaritu picture.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:29 (nine years ago) link

Boyz II Menhood.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link

Julianna Moore is the most forgone Best Actress conclusion since.. when? Hilary Swank in '99 maybe.

piscesx, Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

the most forgone Best Actress winner since Cate Blanchett in Blue Jasmine.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link

can't remember the last time there was a shock win in this damn thing.

piscesx, Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link

Jennifer Lawrence was a surprise in that you'd have thought they would've waited a few years and noms before she'd get something.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 February 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link

mm yeah. although i thought she was p amazing in SLP.

piscesx, Sunday, 22 February 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link

➻ BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM

I didn't get around to seeing any of them. You want the truth? I shouldn't have voted, but I did. This is bad, but here's the power of advertising: everywhere I looked, I saw pictures of this stupid carcass — whatever the fuck that was — and I thought, "That's a cool-looking thing." And I fucking voted for a movie based on the dead whatever it was in the ad thinking that it looked cool. [laughs]

MY VOTE: Leviathan

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/brutally-honest-oscar-ballot-no-773905?mobile_redirect=false

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 February 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

"The Gutillard girl"

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 February 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link

Oh, yeah. I read those. The Hollywood Reporter interviewed several academy members about who they voted for and why, and kept them anonymous. The responses included, openly and explicitly:

Points off for "not liking" a main character
Points off for not being as likely to win (well, who wants to vote for a loser?)
Points off for "being tired of" an actor, especially if they've won before
Points off for "not getting it" (defensible, actually)
Points off if the cast came to a publicity event with "I can't breathe" t-shirts
Points off for "not showing what a character feels"
Points off an actors performance if they didn't like the movie apart from the performance
Points off if a character is a bad model
Points off for being "britishy"
Points off if the subject of a documentary is (personally) "annoying"
Points given for an actor who has less chance of winning in the future
Points given for a movie that "shows that people will go [to movies] if you put something out that they want to see (was successful)
Points given for liking an actor in the interviews they've done, for another actor who's "humble and endearing" in real life
Points given in one category if they felt the movie was snubbed in another category

Guy on the internet (B'wana Beast), Sunday, 22 February 2015 22:51 (nine years ago) link


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