Brown on Brown: Classic or Dud?

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Oh no Ellie I agree - I got sent off but I'm still made to sit there in the sin bin for everyone else to laugh at.

Tom, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(Turns out I'm not done yet). I don't give less of a shit about clothes as I get older, but I have sloughed off a couple of subucltural style maps and find it harder to know what I'm doing except aspiring to a kind of well-shaped minimalism; which is itself a particular kind of aspirationalism, and relies on more money than I have. Probably quite predictably in the eyes of some ILxers, I feel like a drag queen in current conventional women's attire, and not in a good way (the performative theory of gender I always find interesting: should I find it positive or negative that I sometimes don't feel like I 'pass'?).

SEcond point (I'm pondering naturism now): someone told me on Sunday that there's a public nudist park in Munich called 'The ENglish Gardens'. ANyone know about this, or the history of the name??

Ellie, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

BTW when I say 'sloughed off' I don't mean 'matured beyond' or anything offensive (ie moved on out of trivia to higher concerns); I mean left behind more out of laziness and an unwillingness to get tangled up in certain kinds of detail than anything else.

Ellie, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

brown is the new black. a young woman's magazine let me in on that little secret almost 6 years ago and I haven't forgotten.

Nude Spock, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Slingback trainers?

Madchen, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Are they brown or black?

Emma, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i do hope they're brown.

or orange.

gareth, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ha Gareth I have a pair of New Balance trainers you would love! They're brown, the N is orange, and to top it off they're named: 303!!! :)

Omar, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am wearing dark green and black today. Who needs brown?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

All brown = roXor just watch out that people don't mistake you for a UPS guy and start handing you packages. Hm maybe that's not such a bad idea after all.

My fashion secret: lower your standards so far that whatever you pull out of the pile of clothes on the floor "matches" the t-shirt you slept in.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 4 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I do not like brown. I do not own brown. I have one cream jumper that I've only worn about twice in the last ten years, a bone shirt that I've worn twice and a floral thing with a possibly brown background that I've never worn. That's as close as I get to brown.

I don't like green either.

Black, pink, red, blue, orange, purple - I like those. Oh, and I have a couple of white tops.

toraneko, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I hate everyone.

This is most distressing. I wish fashion would die horribly. I've been dressing the same way for fuX0ring years and then suddenly fashion comes along and starts debating whether I'm cool or not. I don't care, leave me alone. I like brown, I wear little else but brown (hey, that little else happens to be black, you know, sorry if this is some kind of faux pas). I wear a brown tie. Yeah, and now the Guardian has decided that this is Year Of The Tie or some such bollocks. It's like those tossers who wore Topshop Motorhead T- shirts; if I was a fan I wouldn't want to be associated with them, but why should I be forced stop showing my allegiance to a band I love just so people don't think I'm a cunt? I love my tie. I know I'm not the first person to wear one, but at least before these people were choosing that for themselves, rather than being dictated to.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

emil.y, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You can thank Jeremy bloody Scott for recultifying the Mötörhead teeshirts (he's from Kansas City and very Gay Boy With Mullet, so I see *issues*). He used to sell them in Colette in Paris for 500F a go, customised slightly, and I marched up to him and asked him 'what gives?' because I thought he was being a bit of a Korine slummer but nope, he is Suburb Boy. Top Shop just ripped them off.

Anyway, my grandmother's designer wardrobe is the way I prefer to remember my grandmother, back in the days before my stepmother started stuffing Haldol down her throat, so stop sniping, Emma.

Sometimes clothes are about more than what's in the cycle for a three- month period and fashion designers and a vast majority of the writers on fashion and style realise that, even if you don't, and often that's what got them involved in fashion in the first place. Not the 'personalities', not the exact replication of the royal court and courtiers system by people who started out liberal or radical enough to know better, and certainly not because of all those perks you keep reading about. I love fashion because I appreciate (and have) style, and can cross-reference just about any look I see with a piece of art, a photograph or some bit of pop culture. That is FUN. It doesn't constitute the most important part of my life, and I'd never accept an invite to a party thrown by Donatella Versace.

Oh. The slingback trainers are a brown upper with red patent pointy tips and red at the strap and shoe back, grey trim and sole, some black edging. They ROCK.

suzy, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sorry, slingback sneakers sound awful and fashion victim-y. I also hate those slip on sneakers. They make your feet look like stuffed animals!

I don't think I've ever done all brown but it can be done well. When so, it's very 40's, quietly elegant.

Samantha, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

naturism is i think german in origin, same as gay lib: by english gardens perhaps they mean lovesome god wot?

mark s, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Actually, Samantha, the slingbacks ROCK. A few people here have seen 'em and agree, plus they were very inexpensive, like $20 despite being from Issey Miyake (I've never had any of his stuff before so I was like, YES! when I got them). As I was saying. They're not really sneakers as such and would probably go OK with 40s pieces.

suzy, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link


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