Sincerely hope he dies or ends up on Ch 5.
― xelab, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 01:01 (nine years ago) link
So, 150,000 have signed this petition to reinstate him, no matter what he has done.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 07:23 (nine years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31828184
― Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 08:08 (nine years ago) link
Read that as "ends up on a C5" at first and thought that's probably a fate worse than death as far as he's concerned.
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 09:16 (nine years ago) link
that sounds about right tbh. his core fans don't give a crap how he behaves, they probably like him more for it.
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 09:17 (nine years ago) link
If they've stuck with him until now it seems unlikely they'd be especially bothered about a "fracas" with a TV producer.
― Tim, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 09:23 (nine years ago) link
Is it really core fans? Or is it not just a reflection of the usual narrative i.e.
Veronique Favreau LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM about 16 hours ago Liked 939I pay my TV license to ensure that irreverent people can express themselves. If you become boarding and politically correct, you may disappear BBC.Martin Jones BLACKPOOL, UNITED KINGDOM about 16 hours ago Liked 790A minority of over sensitive people should not ruin one of Britons favourite shows.Ilya Babansky ST.PETERSBURG, RUSSIAN FEDERATION about 16 hours ago Liked 741BBC, you don't wanna piss off 300 million people.Charlie Houghton CHELMSFORD, ENG about 16 hours ago Liked 576Jeremy is a bastion of light in a dark PC world
Martin Jones BLACKPOOL, UNITED KINGDOM about 16 hours ago Liked 790A minority of over sensitive people should not ruin one of Britons favourite shows.
Ilya Babansky ST.PETERSBURG, RUSSIAN FEDERATION about 16 hours ago Liked 741BBC, you don't wanna piss off 300 million people.
Charlie Houghton CHELMSFORD, ENG about 16 hours ago Liked 576Jeremy is a bastion of light in a dark PC world
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 09:45 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, one person's black eye vs 300 million people who like cars.
They actually should get Piers Morgan to do it. Just to really piss Clarkson off.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 09:55 (nine years ago) link
The BBC will cave on this, I have no doubts. Top Gear is arguably worth nothing without the presenters (even then, probably only Clarkson) and in countries running their own franchises the UK version is more popular than their own citation needed but wiki has the following claim for Australia: the first season averaged around 650,000 viewers an episode. In comparison, viewing figures for the previous three Top Gear UK episodes shown in the same timeslot averaged around 903,000 viewers.
He undoubtedly has the stronger bargaining hand. He and Andy Wilman had originally set up a JV with BBC Enterprises for commercial and foreign exploitation which the BBC bought them out of in 2012, around about the time the three of them signed their last 3 year contracts (meaning this would be the last series contracted for in any case). International exploitation could be well over £100M annually, only Doctor Who made BBC Worldwide more and it looks like in 2014 Top Gear overhauled it. If we accept he was taking a reduced wage previously in relation to return (because he got it through other means) even him holding out for £10M pa looks like reasonable business sense for the Beeb.
His schtick is undoubtedly lolsy UKIP, but there's equally undoubtedly a very profitable market for it.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 09:55 (nine years ago) link
presumably they're still going to be flogging the cancelled episodes on dvds and to foreign broadcasters, so the beebs aren't really going to be out-of-pocket on this thing at all. sack the twat, the programme's run its course anyway, they're still going to recoup their costs whatever happens
― we reward the hake (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:00 (nine years ago) link
haha xp, looks like aldo has a slightly more nuanced analysis
― we reward the hake (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:01 (nine years ago) link
― Tim, Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:23 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, it's quite funny (but not funny) that he can get away with all the racist, homophobic, sexist shit he wants but the second he crosses the line with a white man high in the bbc hierarchy IMMEDIATE SUSPENSION
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:01 (nine years ago) link
yeah that too
― we reward the hake (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:03 (nine years ago) link
burn him and burn all his fans, anyway
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:05 (nine years ago) link
lol, not sure i would go that far but
― we reward the hake (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:10 (nine years ago) link
am willing to pour scorn on him and we can rub our ire together to try and get a spark
Any other job he'd be sacked instantly <-------- sort of thing his hideous fans are wont to say about politicians et al committing indiscretions.
― Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:17 (nine years ago) link
yeah actually i don't want him burned, at least not to death, i want him to be humiliated and penniless and crawling in the gutter and to KNOW it
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:24 (nine years ago) link
TV producers are not really "high in the BBC hierarchy", they are relatively expendable, certainly compared to the "talent". I have a friend who worked with Clarkson for a while and said he's an absolute fucking nightmare to work with, entirely controlling, treats producers like shit, etc.
We don't know it's a white man as well but the law of averages would suggest it probably is.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:25 (nine years ago) link
Wasn't he suspended for racism before he non-apologised?
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:26 (nine years ago) link
The producer has been named. He looks a bit like a cross between Limmy and a young Jah Wobble.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:37 (nine years ago) link
You're going to need to be more specific as that description covers a lot of white men.
― Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:47 (nine years ago) link
Can they not just keep the internationally celebrated cars & racism hour going just with the other two shit racist car dudes
― prole, you'll be a yeoman soon (wins), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:57 (nine years ago) link
Can they not just cancel Top Gear?
― Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:04 (nine years ago) link
Isn't there a diminishing return on these kind of 'bros do stupid shit' show anyway? Especially since YouTube/Vimeo/etc.? This morning I watched a video of someone overclocking a toaster, and that was way more interesting to me than anything TG have done in the last ten years.
― Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:05 (nine years ago) link
Bring back William Woollard. Sure, he's in his 70s now, but, as a clean-living Buddhist, I'm sure he's fit enough to tell you why the electrics on a Corsa are a bit iffy.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:07 (nine years ago) link
(If indeed they are, Vauxhall Legal Team.)
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:09 (nine years ago) link
what the heck is overclocking?
― we reward the hake (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:10 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew2YN2mGKts
watched this but I'm still not any the wiser tbh
― soref, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:14 (nine years ago) link
Forcing chips and CPUs to run at faster than their designed speed (with consequent power consumption and heat generation issues). God knows what this involves with a toaster. Burning a bagel in 30sec?
xp
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:14 (nine years ago) link
agree it's more interesting than top gear though xp
― soref, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:15 (nine years ago) link
As long as there are cars that require unsustainable fuel to run, there'll be a Clarkson. So ban cars, frankly.
― mcayrshire (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:17 (nine years ago) link
that toaster was behaving in an almost sentient way. haunting
― we reward the hake (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:21 (nine years ago) link
Actually I was watching this one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUPSGvWr6xE
― Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:21 (nine years ago) link
Dean Burnett @garwboy
Calling what Clarkson did a 'Fracas' must be like salt in the wound for him, given that it's a French term.
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:30 (nine years ago) link
haha
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:33 (nine years ago) link
what a palaver!
― mcayrshire (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:36 (nine years ago) link
Who's Limmy, btw?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:51 (nine years ago) link
"What's overclocking?" "Who's Limmy?" Where are we, NoGoogle Island?
WINKY SMILEY FACE
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:53 (nine years ago) link
What's a Tuomas?
― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:01 (nine years ago) link
Yet no-one blinks an eye at William Woollard being referenced.
― Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:05 (nine years ago) link
Mark G, you need Limmy in your life.
― mcayrshire (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:07 (nine years ago) link
He's almost as good as ILM's Bobby Gillespie skits
― Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:12 (nine years ago) link
I remembers William Woolard, just like it was yesterday, but it wasn't it was Tomorrow's....
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:38 (nine years ago) link
OK, I googled him, was just wondering if it was a typo for Lemmy.
I'd have been impressed if JClarkson had attempted to biff a Lemmy lookalike.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:40 (nine years ago) link
i'd pay a lot of money to see a clarkson/lemmy rage in a cage match
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 13:04 (nine years ago) link
354,170 signers.
At this rate, they'll be forming the next coalition.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link
my 8 yr old loves top gear so much, but even he confided to me the other day that he thought clarkson was 'a peanut'
― we reward the hake (NickB), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 13:25 (nine years ago) link
nick b's eight-year-old otm
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 13:28 (nine years ago) link
@Maria_MillerMPBBC has clear obligation to staff and obligation to licence fee payer-need to better manage relationships with stars like Clarkson
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link