Your 2016 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

"Constitution was made by christians directed by God."

God directed that each slave would count as three fifths of a person?

sounds more progressive than the god of leviticus tbh

but not the god of Morbs

clinton also gets some credit for kicking indonesia out of east timor, about which (east timor in general, not so much clinton's role in it) war nerd wrote about this week

That Constitution tweet was made by a Mormon kid on a mission trip, but it seems divinity of the constitution is a thing many in the LDS church believe?

it seems divinity of the constitution is a thing many in the LDS church believe?

I recall this being a big talking point when I visited the Mormon Tabernacle as a teenager

Mordy I just don't think it's that much of a stretch to regard Bosnia or Rwanda as bearing parallels to some of Obama's challenges. Clinton's performance does not seem measurably more successful or ethical, in both cases cynical realpolitik and lack of options resulted in a lot of deaths. Obama's tenure has been marked by a higher number of conflicts than Clinton's, but he's hardly to blame for that.

it's not that he's hardly to blame, but that the relationship between an admin's foreign policy + conflicts in the world at large is too opaque to make any definitive conclusions. i think there's certainly a case to be made that some of O's policies /may/ have emboldened eg Putin in Crimea or China in Senkaku or Iran in Syria to take actions they may not have otherwise. Or maybe not. I know that he hasn't helped.

i'll admit that i'm more inclined to give presidents more credit + blame for things like the economy or the state of world affairs than they deserve - but by that rubric i probably overpraise obama's role in the domestic economic recovery so it probably evens out

yes mormons have cobbled together this idea that the signers of the constitution are modern day biblical heroes from god knows where. they made a movie about it iirc. i had to take a course at byu called "american heritage 101" that flew with a lot of that + john stossel specials etc.

also "ballif" is a (presumably conservative) moneybags name in utah. that "kid" is likely a returned missionary and insufferable but if anything the mormons know how to turn on their cherubic aryan starpower when "called upon", kind of a trip to see it on twitter. xps

ha i love how crazy mormon theology takes place in relatively recent american history so much better than that old ass holy land bs

you'd think such modern day biblical heroes would've written in some nice words about polygamy

what domestic economic recovery, btw? Two Americas still.

I didn't know until about a month ago that Jeb is a Catholic.

lol: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/scott-walker-aide-fires-off-154708296.html

poor lil gop apparatchik. godspeed in your future endeavors.

omalley, nice

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/caucus/2015/03/20/prevent-another-crash-reform-wall-street/25057735

hillary constitutionally incapable of saying that

ha - love the three strikes thing

"Former Gov. Martin O'Malley of Maryland is a possible Democratic candidate for president"

come on

there is no god but Hil

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/us/politics/ted-cruz-to-announce-on-monday-he-plans-to-run-for-president.html?_r=0

I thought he was ineligible, destined, after a triumphant homecoming, to be our Prime Minister one day, but I see he became a naturalized citizen in 2005.

It will be an issue at some point. Maybe just for a single news cycle, but someone will make a stink about it.

Cruz 2016 "your world is on fire"

Hahaha yes this is happening.

http://i.imgur.com/U36DKpM.jpg

Let us dance in the flames.

his whole face and being are so unbelievable

Shouldn't there be a crude rocketship embedded in Cruz's right eye?

It would be pretty awesome of Republicans to nominate someone who's father fought alongside Fidel Castro.

its crazy these days how fully half of the republican field are unelectable trolls in it for the publicity

My only question is, will he entertain me like Gingrich and Cain did in 2012, or--to an extent--Palin did in 2008 (she also got under my skin, as silly as that seems in retrospect)? That's all I ask.

wld be very grateful if palin blessed us with a pretend candidacy this cycle

I'm pretty sure she's already ruled it out. She could never go the distance anyway because it would take work and organisation, but then there was a team for Herman Cain, I suppose..

yeah i mean she just has to show up for the debates m/l

Ted Cruz being "smart" is something I think about a lot. What it says about intelligence, the way people estimate it etc.

otm

you guys think the apocalypse is a pantspisser

also the Clintons are smart, but they are also runny turds so it doesnt matter.

http://www.tedcruz.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/JobsOpportunity672-672x441.jpg

Obama's mom jeans aren't any worse than this flight jacket he got at TJ Maxx.

Every time I hear this or or that lawyer described as "brilliant" I have no idea what the writer means.

http://www.maevemaddox.com/IMAGES/scarecrowdiploma.jpg

Scarecrow a better president than Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz being "smart" is something I think about a lot. What it says about intelligence, the way people estimate it etc.

newt gingrich does this for me

NATIONAL REVIEW RT @jimgeraghty: You scoff, but Cruz's bid squeezes Huckabee, Santorum, Perry, Walker, Jindal, Rubio, and even Paul. http://t.co/buZCskPdbH

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/415772/shock-imported-cheap-labor-hits-labor-productivity-andrew-stuttaford

it's a fine line with politicians. there are so many times when i think "this guy can't be this dumb. he's just saying dumb things to get the votes of dumb people. and that's evil, but as a means of gaining power it's often a smart move." then there are politicians that i think are truly dumb (louie gohmert strikes me as an actual dumb person that really hits it off with a certain set of white texans).

i always get so much shit for saying this, but ted cruz is smart. i think he falls in the cynical-evil side of the equation.

He's a smart guy like Tyler Perry or Don Henley.

he's going to get real paid so i guess that's "smart"

anyway, where'e Orly Taitz. shouldn't we have heard from her by now j/k

He may be smarter than the people who expect that Permanent Democratic majority any second now.

Yeah, those people are everywhere. *rmde*

i sure heard a lot of em during the last Presidential Olympics

i always get so much shit for saying this, but ted cruz is smart. i think he falls in the cynical-evil side of the equation.

― who is dankey kang (Karl Malone), Monday, March 23, 2015 10:32 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ultimately imo there's just lots of different types of intelligence and contexts and chaos and were all just little ants trying to find our way in this crazy world, cruz is kinda hard to judge cause its unclear what his end game is

cruz is kinda hard to judge cause its unclear what his end game is
yeah, with him it's tough to tell whether he lusts for THE PURE ULTIMATE POWER!!!!! or if he actually wants to bring about a permanent conservative wet dream state. probably both!