Showtime can't think that many people will watch if Lynch isn't involved.
― Eric H., Monday, 6 April 2015 00:42 (nine years ago) link
maybe the cast will heroically make a group decision not to continue
half of them wouldn't be anyone without lynch anyway
― Karl Malone, Monday, 6 April 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link
what does lynch's statement mean? they couldn't get enough money to pay good script writers?
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 6 April 2015 00:50 (nine years ago) link
they won't put The-Dream and Tricky up at The Plaza 2 nights to cut 'Baby'?
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 6 April 2015 00:52 (nine years ago) link
Welp, that's just fucking dumb. Way to shit the bed, Showtime.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Monday, 6 April 2015 00:57 (nine years ago) link
I think the statement means the script implies something expensive to film, like it has lots of effects or whatever.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 April 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
lasers maybe
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 6 April 2015 01:04 (nine years ago) link
considering how cheaply he supposedly shot inland empire i'd be interested in knowing how far apart showtime and lynch were on episode budget. like what's it worth to showtime to keep david lynch from doing twin peaks?
― Clay, Monday, 6 April 2015 01:05 (nine years ago) link
“We were saddened to read David Lynch’s statement today since we believed we were working towards solutions with David and his reps on the few remaining deal points. SHOWTIME also loves the world of Twin Peaks and we continue to hold out hope that we can bring it back in all its glory with both of its extraordinary creators, David Lynch and Mark Frost, at its helm.”
― Number None, Monday, 6 April 2015 01:26 (nine years ago) link
"But those solutions involved actually paying him, and we were taking a page from the Amanda Palmer book, and..."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 April 2015 01:41 (nine years ago) link
Seconding clay's puzzlement. I imagine lynch to be one of the best at working out how to do effects cheaply and in-camera. I mean I imagine lynch could do 12 hours of awesome TP on favours from actors and a cheap digital cam but I guess he had other ideas for it. I suspect that lynch just got pissed off dealing with contract bs although he's never come across as someone who might be difficult to negotiate with. I just want more lynch asap and hope he has other film work imminent at some point.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 6 April 2015 01:42 (nine years ago) link
He seems like he has stuff going on all the time, like he's writing music or working on movies or videos or painting or whatever. His previous movies have all been independent affairs and he's had incredible freedom to explore and follow his whims. A season-long commitment is a big deal and would probably put a halt to a lot of the things he is involved with.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 6 April 2015 02:30 (nine years ago) link
Maybe what they are offering him it just isn't worth his time, and he couldn't use random cameraman and actors and stuff he would have to do that stuff through a system.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 6 April 2015 02:31 (nine years ago) link
Sund4r you should definitely stick with it to the ending, the finale is fantastic
This was OTM (although it took us four months to get to it).
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 6 April 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link
is it not a case of lynch being too greedy? https://twitter.com/mccrabb_will/status/577511601495928832
― NI, Monday, 6 April 2015 03:17 (nine years ago) link
every Showtime show that has ever attempted something even mildly ambitious visually has had some horrendously bad CGI
― some stupid push back (some dude), Monday, 6 April 2015 03:59 (nine years ago) link
shit, imagine having david lynch standing over you and barking instructions at you during sex
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB5zzb-WAAA2Re3.jpg:large
― cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Monday, 6 April 2015 11:10 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiVfJYXPiJ0
― drash, Monday, 6 April 2015 11:14 (nine years ago) link
ugh, this is really disappointing
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Monday, 6 April 2015 12:37 (nine years ago) link
I found it difficult imagining Lynch going back to working with lots of other powerful people. After the freedom he's had for so many years now, I wouldn't be surprised if he made an excuse to get out that situation where he isn't guaranteed complete freedom. I'm sure Lynch was adamant about sticking to the cinematography style he's been using for the last decade and I doubt the Showtime people would like that.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 6 April 2015 12:45 (nine years ago) link
It's academic now but I think he would have attempted a synthesis of his late style with the already-established style of peaks, which is what would have been so interesting about this even if it was a failure. Certainly if budget is the sticking point we can assume he wasn't planning grungy dv inland empire style
― Finn McCoolit (wins), Monday, 6 April 2015 13:22 (nine years ago) link
This is disappointing yet: they already have the scripts so it's still written by him and Frost. and he only directed a few episodes of the original series anyway. I'd obviously rather have him directing it but in someone else's hands this can still be good. Also maybe calling all the actors over the weekend and making such a stir is a way to shake showtime down.
― akm, Monday, 6 April 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link
This all just seems like hardball negotiation tactics from Lynch. He knows he has power here and is holding out for more money, which I'm assuming he'll get.
They were clearly close to an agreement before; I'm sure they'll reach one soon.
― Evan R, Monday, 6 April 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
Showtime must know that without Lynch this isn't going to make any money
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
If he really bails I will absolutely require those scripts to leak
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Monday, 6 April 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
apparently opens with Coop scaling a Dubai skyscraper to break into the top floor server room. next scene has Bruce Willis as himself. needs to be Bruce Willis for the script to work.
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 6 April 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link
Bruce Willis as an apparition of a disappeared FBI agent a la David Bowie would be legit awesome though
― Evan R, Monday, 6 April 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
little man dances atop a big pile of burning money. It has to be real money, and michael anderson has to really be on fire. This is a matter of principle for lynch
― Finn McCoolit (wins), Monday, 6 April 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
also this means no Gordon :/
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7c/64/4a/7c644a67a9997e056f9ae3a59af82253.jpg
― piscesx, Monday, 6 April 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
after a mini-freakout last night i have decided to withhold judgment until more details emerge. if this does turn out to be a negotiation tactic it's pretty brilliant.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 6 April 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
Twin Peaks @ThatsOurWaldo 6 minutes ago“No David Lynch. No Twin Peaks.”—Kimmy Robertson /cc @SHO_Network @SHO_PR
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB7E8V8WEAAnBwh.jpg
― Karl Malone, Monday, 6 April 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
idk how brilliant a tactic negotiating in public is but it could work if a) Showtime can actually afford what Lynch is asking for and b) Showtime doesn't understand that without Lynch they have nothing
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
I wouldn't exactly call threatening to walk away from a project "brilliant", I mean this is pretty much negotiating 101 here.
― ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 April 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
yeah baffled by the comments here. scuppering the entire thing because he wants more % of dvd sales is hardly commendable
― NI, Monday, 6 April 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
eh I love this guy and his work so much I would be cool with him demanding bajillion dollars tbh
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
give him the network. rename it davetime.
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 6 April 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
Wait is it that he wants a bigger slice, or that he wants a bigger budget to do it right?
― Finn McCoolit (wins), Monday, 6 April 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
he wants a street fighter car demolishing bonus stage between each cut
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 6 April 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
I'd say the latter, but all we have to go on is Lynch's tweet about money for the scripts
xp
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
yeah, it's all a bit vague. the dvd/streaming thing comes from 'will mcrabb' whoever he may be: https://twitter.com/mccrabb_will/status/577511601495928832
― NI, Monday, 6 April 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
I left because not enough money was offered to do the script the way I felt it needed to be done.
that reads like production budget to me
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
I can't tell if that's Will McCrabb the cinematographer or some other will mccrabb
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
http://comediennes.org/actrices/img/photos_comediennes/Mulholland-drive_photo_girl_07.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MTYzgzcMb7M/maxresdefault.jpg
― drash, Monday, 6 April 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, April 6, 2015 10:15 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
better idea than more twin peaks tbh
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 6 April 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
24/7 bunnies
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
yeah to be clear in my conception davetime brims with original+exclusive content assembled from david lynch's personal editing chair and is not just like douglas sirk movies introduced robert-osborne-style by david lynch, not that that would not also be worthwhile
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 6 April 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
all the original+exclusive is bunnies tho obv yes
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 6 April 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
lol
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 6 April 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
Split up 'davetime' between Lynch and DLR and I am there
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 03:53 (nine years ago) link
Not a bad idea. A lot of those '80s VH and DLR videos were pretty damn Lynchian.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 13:30 (nine years ago) link