Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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all the original+exclusive is bunnies tho obv yes

difficult listening hour, Monday, 6 April 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link

Split up 'davetime' between Lynch and DLR and I am there

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 03:53 (nine years ago) link

Not a bad idea. A lot of those '80s VH and DLR videos were pretty damn Lynchian.

Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 13:30 (nine years ago) link

Also I have to believe that if Showtime bungles this, the show ends up somewhere else. Netflix would be all over this.

Evan R, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link

Idk rights to this are p convoluted iirc

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link

scuppering the entire thing because he wants more % of dvd sales is hardly commendable

The idea that Lynch is being greedy here is insanely ridiculous when he co-created, wrote, directed, acted in, and co-composed the soundtrack to the original series. It's also ridiculous when you consider he has been approached many many times before about going back to Twin Peaks and has always turned it down. If he was in this for the money he could have cashed in by now. He knows how much it takes out of him and probably only wants to do this if he is in it 100%.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link

Maybe none of us really know what's going on behind the scenes here and it's dumb to get fired up about it.

circa1916, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link

I'm very skeptical of the theory that he's playing hardball and they'll eventually come to an agreement. I suspect the chances of Lynch being a part of this now are very low.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link

the cast made a video

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=885752348164289&fref=nf

Number None, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link

lol nice to see everybody

this whole thing is so fucking stupid, way to go Showtime

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link

What would david lynch do with the extra money he is demanding?

Treeship, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link

According to his statement over the weekend, use it for the show's budget.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link

who's the woman at the end of the cast video?

I don't even OWN a Television album (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 01:53 (nine years ago) link

She's the only one I couldn't name too! She's also the only one who fucks up the simile

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 01:58 (nine years ago) link

Jennifer Lynch!

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 02:56 (nine years ago) link

i'd say it's more insanely ridiculous to reach the point where the entire thing doesn't happen (or happens under someone else's inferior watch), all because a rich guy wants to be more rich. this is assuming the % points thing is true, nothing concrete has come out

NI, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 03:10 (nine years ago) link

Just watched that w/o sound bc GF is asleep but that was creepy as hell lol

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 03:41 (nine years ago) link

Wait which rich guy are you talking about?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 03:52 (nine years ago) link

tv companies are generally in the business of making money, something more contemptuous about treasured auteur & good ol' boy dave walking away from his most-loved project all because he wants a new mansion. fans4eva huh

NI, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:10 (nine years ago) link

so just to be clear is everyone bad at reading comprehension or are we assuming lynch is just lying when he says the reason has to do with the budget to do the script justice, and not to buy him a solid gold house and rocket car?

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:12 (nine years ago) link

I take lynch at his word bc he wants to drop out of film, paint, meditate and drink coffee (or whatever...) and has done so successfully since Inland Empire. I believe he is interested in TP but only as far as he is able to execute his vision of it (something he didn't get to do the first time around). So if he can't do that then he may as well stay where he is -- in complete control of his life

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:18 (nine years ago) link

I also believe DL to have more integrity than ANYONE working at showtime

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:19 (nine years ago) link

Wouldn't a budget include paying the actors?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:35 (nine years ago) link

Of course what the fuck does that mean

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:38 (nine years ago) link

As in if David Lynch gets a bigger budget he can hire back more people from the first run? Is that greedy?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:39 (nine years ago) link

No?

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:39 (nine years ago) link

I don't understand how asking for a big budget is greedy. Especially when everyone in the world knows this will make a boatload of money.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:39 (nine years ago) link

So we are in agreement and we're just talking in circles?

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:41 (nine years ago) link

You and me are =) I meant whoever said Lynch was being greedy.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:42 (nine years ago) link

Ah

How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:42 (nine years ago) link

i'm guessing Lynch asked for more money because he didn't want to do the series.

poxy fülvous (abanana), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 06:43 (nine years ago) link

love that video

did anyone see that blu-ray featurette where david lynch "interviews" the palmer family? That was so good. It's that sort of thing that makes me think this revival would have been great. David lynch should be able to do whatever he wants. What else were they gonna do with the money?

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 09:50 (nine years ago) link

Showtime last seen starting in on the "U" drawer of intellectual property to strip mine. It's too bad because I was looking forward to arguing about how much Lynch would be letting TM imprint into his Black Lodge/Dreamstates. I wonder if the budget could get fubar'ed on something like shooting on film vs video?

Either way, I'd sure miss Pete Martell.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:14 (nine years ago) link

yeah :-(

it's funny, josie and pete are the first characters we see in twin peaks and neither of them were gonna be in this

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:19 (nine years ago) link

Showtime is garbage. What show hasn't they run into the ground in two seasons or less? And then kept on for six more seasons. I can def see them trying to squeeze the budget for stupid reasons.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:42 (nine years ago) link

Judging by what an indulgent, overtly long mess Inland Empire was, maybe it's a good thing Lynch won't direct this? Okay, I'm not saying any other director could necessarily do it better, but I'm also not sure if giving Lynch total creative freedom is always a good thing.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:45 (nine years ago) link

I mean, the first season of TP was still classic all the way through, and Lynch only directed 2 episodes out of 8.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:47 (nine years ago) link

the problem as I see it is that the final episode & fwwm put red room stuff at the very centre of things, and nobody but lynch seems able to access that stuff as convincingly (however much lodge exposition frost comes up with). I've read the original script for the finale and it's fucking horrible

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:50 (nine years ago) link

Bob appears dressed as a dentist. Windom fucking earle makes a lot of speeches. It's really wretched

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:51 (nine years ago) link

they should just give the reigns to ryan gosling.

other lynch-'inspired' directors that would probably love to do it (but maybe shouldnt) - richard ayoade, dennis villeneuve, nicolas winding refn.

just saw someone else has done a list for this already -
http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/24327/1/five-directors-who-could-replace-david-lynch-for-twin-peaks

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:11 (nine years ago) link

forgot herzog lol

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:11 (nine years ago) link

Inland Empire is better than Twin Peaks fwiw

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:22 (nine years ago) link

Inland Empire is the best thing Lynch has ever done fwiw.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:25 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I adore inland empire but didn't feel like getting into a whole thing about that

Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:26 (nine years ago) link

otm. its like a summary of all his best ideas.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:26 (nine years ago) link

In a visually arresting and groundbreaking style.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:28 (nine years ago) link

Do you guys really think this show would be a huge success?

If it does go ahead with Lynch intact, my prediction is that there will be tons of buzz across media but it will be as weird as Fire Walk With Me and all the tv drama fans and people who casually watched the first 2 series will be hyped initially but will hate it soon enough and leave fairly quickly, the audience will dwindle to whoever went to see Inland Empire when it came out and Showtime will cancel unless it is planned for a short run only.

And yes, Inland Empire (whatever reservations I have about some scenes) is the most powerful thing Lynch ever did.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:47 (nine years ago) link

It's nine episodes. So yeah, it's planned for a short run, and with nostalgia ruling the tv-scape, it should be a pretty sure thing. I mean, people don't even need to watch the whole thing, they just need to sign up for Showtime in anticipation, then the channel couldn't care less if they stop watching. But I agree that something like a 22-episode broadcast reboot of Twin Peaks would probably be a gigantic flop.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:50 (nine years ago) link

was Windom Earle going to be in this reboot?

My 14 year old was like "Dad! Man, that's not so cool!" (soref), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link


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