You and me are =) I meant whoever said Lynch was being greedy.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:42 (nine years ago) link
Ah
― How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:42 (nine years ago) link
i'm guessing Lynch asked for more money because he didn't want to do the series.
― poxy fülvous (abanana), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 06:43 (nine years ago) link
love that video
did anyone see that blu-ray featurette where david lynch "interviews" the palmer family? That was so good. It's that sort of thing that makes me think this revival would have been great. David lynch should be able to do whatever he wants. What else were they gonna do with the money?
― Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 09:50 (nine years ago) link
Showtime last seen starting in on the "U" drawer of intellectual property to strip mine. It's too bad because I was looking forward to arguing about how much Lynch would be letting TM imprint into his Black Lodge/Dreamstates. I wonder if the budget could get fubar'ed on something like shooting on film vs video?
Either way, I'd sure miss Pete Martell.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:14 (nine years ago) link
yeah :-(
it's funny, josie and pete are the first characters we see in twin peaks and neither of them were gonna be in this
― Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:19 (nine years ago) link
Showtime is garbage. What show hasn't they run into the ground in two seasons or less? And then kept on for six more seasons. I can def see them trying to squeeze the budget for stupid reasons.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 10:42 (nine years ago) link
Judging by what an indulgent, overtly long mess Inland Empire was, maybe it's a good thing Lynch won't direct this? Okay, I'm not saying any other director could necessarily do it better, but I'm also not sure if giving Lynch total creative freedom is always a good thing.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:45 (nine years ago) link
I mean, the first season of TP was still classic all the way through, and Lynch only directed 2 episodes out of 8.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:47 (nine years ago) link
the problem as I see it is that the final episode & fwwm put red room stuff at the very centre of things, and nobody but lynch seems able to access that stuff as convincingly (however much lodge exposition frost comes up with). I've read the original script for the finale and it's fucking horrible
― Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:50 (nine years ago) link
Bob appears dressed as a dentist. Windom fucking earle makes a lot of speeches. It's really wretched
― Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:51 (nine years ago) link
they should just give the reigns to ryan gosling.
other lynch-'inspired' directors that would probably love to do it (but maybe shouldnt) - richard ayoade, dennis villeneuve, nicolas winding refn.
just saw someone else has done a list for this already - http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/24327/1/five-directors-who-could-replace-david-lynch-for-twin-peaks
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:11 (nine years ago) link
forgot herzog lol
Inland Empire is better than Twin Peaks fwiw
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:22 (nine years ago) link
Inland Empire is the best thing Lynch has ever done fwiw.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:25 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I adore inland empire but didn't feel like getting into a whole thing about that
― Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:26 (nine years ago) link
otm. its like a summary of all his best ideas.
― StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:26 (nine years ago) link
In a visually arresting and groundbreaking style.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:28 (nine years ago) link
Do you guys really think this show would be a huge success?
If it does go ahead with Lynch intact, my prediction is that there will be tons of buzz across media but it will be as weird as Fire Walk With Me and all the tv drama fans and people who casually watched the first 2 series will be hyped initially but will hate it soon enough and leave fairly quickly, the audience will dwindle to whoever went to see Inland Empire when it came out and Showtime will cancel unless it is planned for a short run only.
And yes, Inland Empire (whatever reservations I have about some scenes) is the most powerful thing Lynch ever did.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:47 (nine years ago) link
It's nine episodes. So yeah, it's planned for a short run, and with nostalgia ruling the tv-scape, it should be a pretty sure thing. I mean, people don't even need to watch the whole thing, they just need to sign up for Showtime in anticipation, then the channel couldn't care less if they stop watching. But I agree that something like a 22-episode broadcast reboot of Twin Peaks would probably be a gigantic flop.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:50 (nine years ago) link
was Windom Earle going to be in this reboot?
― My 14 year old was like "Dad! Man, that's not so cool!" (soref), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link
Man, I like Inland Empire a lot, but there is some hyperbole afoot here...
― The job killing and likely illegal (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO934i9uO1c
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
i love inland empire and it might be my favorite as well, but that changes all the time. it's definitely up there.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
let's not rehash Tuomas' ridiculous opinions about how Lost Highway is Lynch's best movie
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
Inland Empire is pretty amazing gonna throw my hat in there. That horrible face at the end of it still gives me shudders...
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
Fact: Lynch's two best films are his two most recent films.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
By which I mean IE and his Duran Duran concert film.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
LOL, was going to agree until ...
― Eric H., Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
gtfo
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
Maybe the Duran Duran movie really is his most spectacular yet. Has anyone actually seen it?
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link
i watched it for about 10 minutes. i came away baffled. did anyone ever publish a story on the background of his involvement in that project?
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link
His two best films are Inland Empire and Inland Empire: More Stuff That Happened!
Ok, that might be hyperbole. I saw Wild at Heart last night, btw. It's not that good.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, Wild At Heart is among my least favorites. It became even less of a favorite after watching the deleted scenes in the Lime Green Set and seeing how much stuff he cut that obfuscated the narrative in what seemed (to me) like a self-conscious attempt to make the film more Lynchian.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
Maybe that's just how he works, though. I generally grant him a huge amount of leeway so I don't know why I'm less inclined to do so with WAH.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
I think Wild at Heart (while not without issues) is way underrated, but I seem to be nearly alone in that view.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
It seems a step back to me. Made after the production company that made Blue Velvet went into bankruptcy and waiting for Twin Peaks to become what it became. It's an adaptation, like Dune and Elephant Man. And it seems less like Lynch and like standard nineties violent postmodernism like True Romance or even Natural Born Killers.
The weird thing is, of course, that it hit at exactly the right time, and won the Golden Palm in Cannes. And with the prestige from that and Twin Peaks, Lynch kinda never looked back again, and just grew progressively weirder. Except for the Straight Story, but let's ignore that.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link
I think it's underrated too.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
Wild at heart is about as good as perdita durango
― Dainger! High Doltage (wins), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
And it seems less like Lynch and like standard nineties violent postmodernism like True Romance or even Natural Born Killers.
agree w all this, it's v tedious, probably his least enjoyable work
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
I don't think it all quite hangs together in WaH, but there are at least a half dozen A+ classic Lynch scenes in it that make it worthwhile.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
^^^ yeah, some classic scenes, some off the rails wtf-ness, which I find true of all Lynch. Haven't watched WaH in years, but as I recall it's still better than Lost Highway.
― The job killing and likely illegal (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
i don't know that WAH seems less like lynch
lipstick on face, sherilyn fenn as car accident survivor, harry dean stanton's execution scene, bobby peru's "seduction" of lula, helium-voiced guy at bar, cockroach cousin, etc etc etc etc
― drash, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
guy on fire running through the house in flashback, coming across that car crash in the middle of the desert, lula and sailor's metal/elvis dance scene, etc.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
oh, i see you got the car accident. i think of that a lot.
bobby peru's "seduction" of lula
this scene is super classic, can do w/o most of the rest of the film tbh
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
I agree that there are lots of classic moments despite the movie not hanging together as a whole.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
WaH a pretty straight-forward story with added Lynchian elements. Lost Highway is a Lynch down to the way it's constructed. Wild at Heart is an adaptation. I mean, it's not as if it's less Lynch than something like Dune, I think, but it's weird that it's what he won his big award for. It seems less Lynch than Blue Velvet and onward.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
Except for the Straight Story, but let's ignore that.
this is hogwash, the straight story is as good and in its way as gloriously weird as a lot of the other ones, the weirdness is just not on the surface and yeah sure it was financed by disney
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link