that teaser is 100% composed of white ppl, including the extras
― Clay, Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
I really really enjoyed the first season, but find the prospect of a second a bit of a chore, and the trailer isn't helping. Will watch though.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
lots of moody god's eye view shots of southern california = looks pretty fucking good to me.
― ryan, Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
i'm an unreconstructed sucker for pulpy crime shit and this looks exactly like that, although i'm sure it will have all of the same thinkpiece-inspiring problems bc nic pizzolatto does not exactly seem inclined toward growth (that said, mcadams appearing to be just as involved in the main action is a start, at least)
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
*just as involved as the brooding men
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
lots of mustache = looks pretty fucking good to me
― j., Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
Nice digital camerawork, too.
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Forget it, Jake. It's the psychosphere.
― Mule, Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCK1cisUsAAXAZX.png
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ECtcp4c.png
coming 2 arrest the premium television anti-hero cliche
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
It's like Michael Mann's The Shield.
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
that sounds really good
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
is that Rick Springfield
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:22 (nine years ago) link
it is!
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
I assume this is set in the near future when the LAPD has finally exterminated all minorities
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
the guy in the mask look scary
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
is that one of the main players? could only be Kitsch, i guess, but too burly seeming.
― ryan, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/bKYnQK9.png
jeez dont worry i wasnt going to say anything
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
ew even got weird eye things for added creep
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
I couldn't even make it all the way through the trailer
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
regarding non-whites, while i agree diversity is desirable i think NP's muse is and always will be fucked up white people.
― ryan, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
maybe he should set his stuff in idk Finland or something then
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
tbf there are lots of fucked up wites in LA.
― Clay, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link
so far he seems to excel at creepy crimes which white dudes are known to hold the record for
― head clowning instructor (art), Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Thursday, April 9, 2015 2:38 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
by that rationale matt weiner and david chase shouldve done the same! weiner has the (legit but convenient) excuse of it being period-accurate, david chase, aaaahhhhhh, eeeehhrrrmmmmm...but whatever.
pizzolato's problems are way more woman-related than anything else. if the show proves me wrong sure i'll eat the attendant crow but i don't expect him to totally witewash socal the way that say, lena dunham witewashes brooklyn.
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link
Chase and weiner's shows both featured minorities
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link
So, no
Agree p-zone is awful w women
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
so did the first season of true detective! we can debate about prominence of role, which yea is a problem but thats a problem of almost all tv, and it won't be rectified anytime soon aside from maybe by empire, and the success of that show is a major step in the right direction.
for the record, whenever black people showed up on the sopranos they were complete and utter stereotypes barring your one example of a rapper with a degree in urban planning in season 1, which was actually interesting. tbf that matched up with the view most of chase's italian north jersey characters had of black ppl, cant speak to chase's own.
as far as mad men goes they are not prominent at all, which again, is period accurate sadly, but pleeeeeaaassse don't even try to say matt weiner is a paragon of diversity representation or progressiveness just because pete campbell said IT'S A SHAMEFUL SHAMEFUL DAY in season 6 during the MLK assassination episode
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
imo its okay to have a show with only brooding white men like for instance who is more conflicted than a white man nobody i shd know i am one
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
catholics AND protestants
― j., Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
xp lol
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
Would absolutely watch that. (Though, as long as we're ticking boxes, The Shield and most of Mann's movies had lots of prominent minority characters in non-villain/monster roles.)
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
Marty's series of booty calls was a little one dimensional but the wife character (can't remember her name, lol) was fine until they seemed to not know what to do with her for the final 2 eps. though there's a dignity in her getting away from all that.
― ryan, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
yeah mann always had diverse casts & its one of the many reasons why he's kinda the platonic ideal of modern crime filmmaking (still seems to, altho im prob not gonna see blackhat and find out)
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
(xp)
I don't really disagree about the portrayal of black people in Sopranos that you lay out, but wasn't aware we were speaking strictly of black people
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
we weren't. but i can't even recall latino characters having ANY significant roles!
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
AJ's puerto rican girlfriend, Hesh, arab guys show up for a few episodes (not as a v significant characters tbh), I'm probably forgetting some others
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
Blanca! forgot her name
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
ah and of course the half-black/half-Jewish boyfriend, he was a good character
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link
which gave us this awesome scene:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPLduQIZFzQ
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:32 (nine years ago) link
Junior's asian sidekick in the resthome
as for Mad Men, I agree they have not given minority characters a lot of time (outside of Ginsberg), but they have made a point (repeatedly) of showing how exclusionary the world of the main characters is - whether it's Roger in blackface, Dawn/Shirley's interactions and experiences, or the Drapers' shitty treatment of Carla
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
The way they ended S01 makes me think of the whole damn enterprise as a fluke. Will check S02 out tho, obv.
― dandy don's weiner (rip van wanko), Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
there was the old civil rights/union organizer in Sopranos too (and his son, iirc?) that was a good couple of episodes
xxp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
and Lord Jamaar and Treach in the hospital
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
sorry we can take this discussion to another thread but now the more I think about it the more I think slothroprhymes dismissal of Sopranos is totally wrong
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
I love shake's cap'n save-a-soprano act
― 龜, Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
Strangely intrigued as to what Vince Vaughn will do with this. Otherwise... yea ok
― painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Thursday, 9 April 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link