TRUE DETECTIVE on hbo - Season Two

as for Mad Men, I agree they have not given minority characters a lot of time (outside of Ginsberg), but they have made a point (repeatedly) of showing how exclusionary the world of the main characters is - whether it's Roger in blackface, Dawn/Shirley's interactions and experiences, or the Drapers' shitty treatment of Carla

The way they ended S01 makes me think of the whole damn enterprise as a fluke. Will check S02 out tho, obv.

there was the old civil rights/union organizer in Sopranos too (and his son, iirc?) that was a good couple of episodes

xxp

and Lord Jamaar and Treach in the hospital

sorry we can take this discussion to another thread but now the more I think about it the more I think slothroprhymes dismissal of Sopranos is totally wrong

I love shake's cap'n save-a-soprano act

Strangely intrigued as to what Vince Vaughn will do with this. Otherwise... yea ok

r there going to be more eps this time

not a lot of eps last time around

i like the sopranos just fine, shakey, but it has race-related probs that are common among many prestige shows, which obviously is the main prob. never thought of hesh as a minority character but having grown up mostly in north jersey i can confirm that a significant number of the dudes that show portrays would think that. ginsberg for his era & in the WASPy wite advertising world would be as well.

anyway, for all of true d's (many!) problems, race is not one of them re ially. the two most prominent black characters (michael potts and tory kittles) receive top billing alongside mcconaughey, harrelson and monaghan) are A. cops & not particularly stereotypical ones and B. markedly more well-adjusted than the brooding wite leads!

the ideal world would give those two characters their own show, & hopefully the success of stuff like empire and how to get away with murder points toward the right direction for that to happen.

xp i believe it'll be 8 once again

xp to self: *really.

this looks as good as an equiv wordless trailer of the first seas would have looked at the time. still pumped.

I don't think anyone was saying the show had a problem with race in season one. When I pointed out the lack of people of color in the teaser i should have included "and it is set in contemporary Los Angeles." That's not what LA looks like. (Tho perhaps it does in the world of ~detectives~)

r there going to be more eps this time

― lag∞n, Thursday, April 9, 2015 3:51 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

The public wants more detection

los blancoles more like

i thought shakey was being a bit reductive w/ the "set stuff in finland" joke, clay your initial statement re: the trailer was p accurate

tbrr as a result of nic pizz's issues w/ writing women or honestly anyone who isn't a brooding wite who has secrets i now feel kind of awful for having defended him on any point, like he devises intriguing noir plots & his lines can sing when they dont clunk (it's basically a tossup as to which will happen) but seems like a not good person otherwise

remember when he m/l plagiarized a shit ton of lines too man I forgot how much I h8 this guy

this seems like a good place to drop in a PSA for people to watch banshee, btw

I love Farrell, he's so wounded I want to take care of him

ya i like him too en bruges is my fav movie

Cosign

I'm a New World apologist too but I get why ppl wouldn't like it

Also I'm a fiend for mojitos

Nice digital camerawork, too.
― with HD lyrics (Eazy), Thursday, April 9, 2015 6:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Season 1 was shot on 35mm, which was nice

tbrr as a result of nic pizz's issues w/ writing women or honestly anyone who isn't a brooding wite who has secrets i now feel kind of awful for having defended him on any point, like he devises intriguing noir plots & his lines can sing when they dont clunk (it's basically a tossup as to which will happen) but seems like a not good person otherwise

― slothroprhymes, Thursday, April 9, 2015 4:15 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc max is responsible for your opinion/the meme that pizz is a Bad Person http://morningafter.gawker.com/nic-pizzolatto-is-a-schmuck-and-true-detective-will-suc-1617847916 seems like it was just 'slow day at the office' or something

like he seems like a totally normal dude

Also I'm a fiend for mojitos

― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, April 9, 2015 8:16 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

same

xxp I actually don't think he's a plagiarist, that wasn't what I was referring to. more the way he comes off in certain interviews (the infamous "branzino lunch" one and bitching about his critics in a lame way in another

it does not surprise me tho that max read wrote a pisstake article out of boredom/quotas if that is indeed the case, I mean denton has v specific goals for pageview totals it must be stressful sometimes

"not a good person" may have been a strong description

he just seems like a self-serious dbag

is being mad at the guy as a guy part of the social justice analyst package or can u get it a la carte

lol

it should be a la carte but if you write for the internets it is prob required for optimal thinkpiece production

he just seems like a self-serious dbag

― call all destroyer, Thursday, April 9, 2015 8:42 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

does he though? the one interview i read he just seemed like a normal guy stoked to be making a tv show

i dunno about "dbag" but can you realistically make popular (or even unpopular) entertainment in mass media without having extended periods of being tremendously self-serious? your ideas are being realized at the cost of millions of dollars and thousands of man hours, that's pretty serious.

lol i'm not invested in this one way or another but the stuff i've read w/him has not made me think "cool guy" is all i'm saying.

His name sounds like a giant pizza haha =]

i love pizza

i love pizzajitos

his statements about his upbringing in Louisiana makes it seem like he comes by his self-seriousness pretty honestly. in any case, he just strikes me as a bit clumsy in managing his media persona. probably didn't occur to him that citing Faulkner etc as an influence is to invite mockery.

part of why I was charmed by TD is that its "pretentiousness" (if you want to call it that) seemed so unguarded and earnest in some ways (though he's always careful to ground things in Marty's hilarious reactions to Rust). i guess in that sense it's the opposite of pretentious--these are ideas and feelings he was really invested in!

I will always have time for earnest nihilists

and I think that's what people are getting at with the "dorm room philosophy" jibes--as if they're made uncomfortable by that earnestness. too bad for them, I guess.

xpost: me too!

some boobs always helps seal the deal

i know its dumb but i hate it when my illusion of ilx as a sort of sophisticated place is shattered. there is no 'blog quota' and b/c i am an editor i only write things when i want to. 'slow news day'! sheesh. pizzolatto comes across like a schmuck in that thr article and i stand by every word in my post. max out.

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well i guess max has fulfilled his lying to ilx quota for the day smh

maybe he should set his stuff in idk Finland or something then

― Οὖτις, Thursday, April 9, 2015 1:38 PM (Yesterday)

would be cool if it was set in like 1970's Helsinki or something

― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, March 18, 2014 2:28 PM (1 year ago)