she has burned a lot of bridges
― Clay, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
i find rachel to be the weakest actor on that show by far and a general disappointment whenever she enters the storyline. they don't know what to do with her and she isn't helping.killing tim would be a dumb move. If they kill raylan, i wouldn't be shocked but it seems like they need closure with his daughter/wife if they go that route and i dunno how they manage it.
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
and I feel like they have to kill somebody who the audience would hurt for XP to myself
― Clay, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 21:00 (nine years ago) link
It would certainly take this already great season to a legendary ending if they have the balls to kills Ava and/or Raylan, amongst others.
Actually, I'm kind of convincing myself that Ava is gonna die. Boyd, too. Not Bonnie and Clyde style, but they're the two who want to get out of Harlan the most, and like the song says...
Raylan already got out. He's there by choice. He's not gonna die. Injured, yes.
― Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
yep.http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/04/justified-a-rebel-of-golden-age-television/390486/
So many shows add secondary characters who turn out to be poorly developed, or opt not to add any at all precisely because it’s so hard to do them right. But from the rollicking mafia man turned informant Wynn Duffy, to the ruthless Robert Quarles, to this season’s leathery, magnetic big bad Avery Markham (Sam Elliott, another actor born to be on Justified), the show’s recurring characters—its villains, especially—were rarely thinly written, and always a ton of fun.I say rarely because the fifth season of the show was what can be best described as a creative misfire. Michael Rapaport, who played the main villain that season, was the show’s first and only serious miscasting. The plot, normally intricate and layered in the best way possible, became unnecessarily convoluted in the same way that many shows that are on the air for a while tend to do. Even at its worst moments, Justified was still a good show—certainly better than most—and it’s miraculous that it didn’t fail much more than just once, given how fearless it was at taking familiar TV conventions and turning them on their heads.
I say rarely because the fifth season of the show was what can be best described as a creative misfire. Michael Rapaport, who played the main villain that season, was the show’s first and only serious miscasting. The plot, normally intricate and layered in the best way possible, became unnecessarily convoluted in the same way that many shows that are on the air for a while tend to do. Even at its worst moments, Justified was still a good show—certainly better than most—and it’s miraculous that it didn’t fail much more than just once, given how fearless it was at taking familiar TV conventions and turning them on their heads.
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link
Well that was a lot more low-key and bittersweet than I was expecting. I liked it!
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 06:17 (nine years ago) link
i'm gonna have to think on this one but yeah i think they made good decisions. not predictable!
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 06:22 (nine years ago) link
best decision: Raylan/Winona not working out. absolutely true to both characters.
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 06:32 (nine years ago) link
my girl said definitively "she wouldn't be with that guy" and then wouldn't elucidate
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 06:55 (nine years ago) link
Has she already forgotten Gary?
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 13:23 (nine years ago) link
the hat thing was very silly
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Thursday, 16 April 2015 07:35 (nine years ago) link
The hat thing was poor judgement. The whole scene with Ava, I was distracted by the stupid hat with its stupid little tag on the brim.
― trishyb, Thursday, 16 April 2015 08:28 (nine years ago) link
Terrific show, terrific finale, and the first season where I didn't think "well that was good, but not season 2 good".
Anyway I am stoked they went for a happyish ending with the central cast all surviving, and somehow not being a copout at all. In fact it seemed like the best of all possible choices for an ending.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 16 April 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link
Been avoiding this thread cuz I still need to see the last season - want to do it binge style - but I finally got around to watching what I THOUGHT was an inxs doc I dvr'ed on Showtime which turned out to be the second half of an Australian tv miniseries about the band, chronicling the miniseries. Took me a sec to realize DEWEY CROWE was playing their manager, demanding they tour and screaming "you're not nick cave!" at hutchence after Max Q and "you're not grunge!" during Welcome to wherever you are. Very disorienting, even if I was vaguely aware he wasn't from the US.
― da croupier, Friday, 15 May 2015 12:27 (nine years ago) link
Whoops, I meant to write "chronicling the post-kick years"
― da croupier, Friday, 15 May 2015 12:39 (nine years ago) link
A few nights ago I watched Nell, for some reason. Nick Searcy and Jeremy Davies are both in it, and play characters pretty similar to those they play in Justified.
― polyphonic, Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:20 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah this really impressed and stuck with me. especially in contrast to the Sons Of Anarchy finale.
Justified became a pretty entertaining circus of scenery-chewing character actors by the end. Boon was an especially fun character, considering that i'd previously only seen him as a total wimp on Parenthood and in a couple of horror movies.
― some dude, Saturday, 16 May 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
just finished this up. final season was so good and the finale was perfect. such a weirdly heartwarming ending w boyd in the prison. those two had such great chemistry. really grew to love his interaction with his partner tim too. gonna miss this show a lot.
― Spottie, Tuesday, 11 August 2015 08:06 (nine years ago) link
in retrospect, i was really happy with that ending.
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 August 2015 08:36 (nine years ago) link
I must cop to not really enjoying Elmore's novels, but I was missing Justified and picked up Freaky Deaky to get a fix. It's terrific - first Leonard book I really enjoyed. Maybe seeing his writing through the prism of Justified has fixed it for me - or maybe it's just a pretty good book. The hero is very Raylan-esque, kind of tough, sadsack asshole but very likeable. In fact he's much more like Raylan than the guy in Pronto or Riding the Rap.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link
Started watching this show a few weeks ago, waiting for Better Call Saul, and I'm in love with everything about it. I had some weird ill conceived idea about F/X television shows that was unjustified. Ha, anyway about to finished the second season and I foresee it only getting better.
― JacobSanders, Monday, 13 June 2016 00:54 (eight years ago) link
it's one of the best shows of the past decade, full stop.
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Monday, 13 June 2016 01:17 (eight years ago) link
Re-watched Season 2 earlier this week myself (I own the first two on DVD, watched 3-6 via Amazon). Really solid, and even funnier than I remembered. I think I'm gonna re-watch Season 3 and see if I like it better than I did at the time (Neal McDonough's and Mykelti Williamson's characters both bugged me).
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 13 June 2016 01:21 (eight years ago) link
I always found it very satisfying
― wins, Monday, 13 June 2016 01:22 (eight years ago) link
Loved every season
― Spottie, Monday, 13 June 2016 01:39 (eight years ago) link
Def a rewatchable show
s4 is the best season imo
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 13 June 2016 01:56 (eight years ago) link
you can call any season you want the best season as long as you don't say the 5th season because then you're trolling
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Monday, 13 June 2016 03:37 (eight years ago) link
Or you're Michael Rapaport.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Monday, 13 June 2016 04:04 (eight years ago) link
this show has the best ending of any recent show imo, the final scene is fairly tear-jerking
― nomar, Monday, 13 June 2016 05:35 (eight years ago) link
aye it was perfect
― Spottie, Monday, 13 June 2016 05:37 (eight years ago) link
very satisfying ending
― wins, Monday, 13 June 2016 11:45 (eight years ago) link
Best dialogue of any show
― a poon shaped mule (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 June 2016 13:07 (eight years ago) link
As mentioned above, seriously recommend Freaky Deaky (retrograde 80s sexual politics aside) for anyone missing the show
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 13 June 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link
(The book - not the movie!)
Some serious superlative praise here. It's not a bad show but wear its rightwing biases on its sleeve. Overt racism tending even to sympathizing with white supremacists, totally unrealistic portrayals of organized crime (especially early on), uncritical portrayals of law enforcement. Is this seriously one of the best shows of the past ten years?
― viborg, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 00:33 (eight years ago) link
iirc there are a ton of crooked cops and feds, but anyway the answer would still be yes, I don't need every show to constantly validate my beliefs
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 June 2016 01:16 (eight years ago) link
Or be realistic
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 14 June 2016 01:19 (eight years ago) link
also I can only think of two would-be "white supremacists" - Boyd (who's actually just a craven opportunist) and Dewey (whose true defining characteristic is being an idiot who can't count how many kidneys he has) xp
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 June 2016 01:22 (eight years ago) link
You could always just watch "The Shield," where the cops are racist and homophobic and evil.
And yes, like "The Shield" it's one of the best shows.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 03:54 (eight years ago) link
Sam Elliot shows up and steals the show! I'm sad it's almost over.
― JacobSanders, Monday, 4 July 2016 01:46 (eight years ago) link
so much of the speculation about how the show would end was so ill-informed imo, like people were anticipating something based on all the other violent cable shows they've watched as opposed to justified itself.
― nomar, Monday, 4 July 2016 02:26 (eight years ago) link
Just watching Deadwood for the first time and glad to have Raylan there as an anchor in this weird world.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 4 July 2016 13:35 (eight years ago) link
Just watched the final episode and what a humble ending. I feel like saying god bless, if I said that sort of thing.
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 02:56 (eight years ago) link
olyphant was actually about to tear up in that last shot
― nomar, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link
it was very genuine for sure
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:46 (eight years ago) link
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― nomar, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link
awwww. now i gotta watch it again
― moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 12 July 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link
Just finished tonight, kinda weird I'd kinda drug my feet on watching the last season didn't want to say goodbye to all these great characters. But yeah what a great, heartfelt last words episode.... That last exchange really got me
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 August 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link
i'm mystified by why people were hating on season 4 upthread, having just crammed the first 5 seasons i'd say its something like
S4 > S2 > S3 >S1 > S5
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link