the part we all decided to not talk about bc it was harder for him to defend than it was for him to suggest lazy clickbait was actually malicious burying of rape in favor of lols
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 06:57 (nine years ago) link
so really, everyone's wasting their time nitpicking the words of ilxors (or their co-workers) from a self-perceived moral high ground - your problem is not that people are doing that, as you're doing it as well. the only difference is you think we're stupid, and vica versa.
just trying to clear some of the distracting clutter out of this debate.
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:06 (nine years ago) link
you are the distracting clutter in this debate
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:09 (nine years ago) link
are you really asking me if i believe that taking moral stands is always wrong, or just sometimes wrong? this is a dumb fucking line of argument but i know how you love derailing these things
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:10 (nine years ago) link
i don't think i asked you a question
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:11 (nine years ago) link
nice semantic backflip! definitely getting to the core of this issue
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:12 (nine years ago) link
when i say i think jjjusten is moralizing i mean that i think his motive has nothing to do w/ solving the problems he's claiming to attack but rather appearing righteous
i'm disagreeing for different reasons: bc i have a quixotic yet visceral revulsion towards that kind of disingenuous white knight bs masquerading as upstanding moral purity
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:15 (nine years ago) link
but also u want that gawker job u can taste it right its sigourney ur rick moranis
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:17 (nine years ago) link
okay that last post would make a great harvey danger lyric...
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:18 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGeb5nPDgCM
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:19 (nine years ago) link
psshhh are you serious, as this thread proves i have way terrible internet 'face' which max values so highly, never mind that jordan covers most of the bases i'd be chasing, i'm nowhere near getting a gig at gawker
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:19 (nine years ago) link
i thought you've written for them
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:34 (nine years ago) link
nice are we going to talk about my career now? just going to flag post you now & pass out, eat shit
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:37 (nine years ago) link
dude, i'm sorry. you were just describing the reasons you wouldn't get to write for gawker - didn't think it would offend to say i thought you already had.
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:39 (nine years ago) link
no one's offended im just not talking about my livelihood while you troll me itt
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:41 (nine years ago) link
again, i'm sorry (and i think you're offended if you're calling me a troll and telling me to eat shit). i didn't bring up your livelihood in relation to gawker - you were already discussing it.
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:44 (nine years ago) link
i mean, just for full disclosure, i've written for two gawker blogs
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:47 (nine years ago) link
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:09 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah the whole 'debate' is distracting clutter that stands between us and the unwavering, uncomprehending, immobile fact of our own aloneness and mortality
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:47 (nine years ago) link
full disclosure ned is nick denton and you've all been punk'd
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:48 (nine years ago) link
i have never seen them in the same place
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 07:49 (nine years ago) link
fwiw if people have corrections, complaints, questions etc. i read and reply to almost every email i get from readers. it's a pretty small shop, im generally accessible, and 99 percent of the time a direct private email is a quicker and less fraught way to get my attention and be heard
― max, Sunday, 19 April 2015 13:16 (nine years ago) link
Thx Max - truth is, I didn't start this thread with the intention of dragging any of you into it, which is why I changed the title to something less personal once someone suggested it. I don't blame any of you for staying the hell out of it for obvious reasons.
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Sunday, 19 April 2015 13:35 (nine years ago) link
oh hey, max is here. can you get me out of the greys?
― fish or click bait (how's life), Sunday, 19 April 2015 13:48 (nine years ago) link
do you guys have an opening for an ombudsman?
― Treeship, Sunday, 19 April 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link
a nombudsman maybe
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
hornybodsman
― Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 April 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link
Thx Max - truth is, I didn't start this thread with the intention of dragging any of you into it
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Sunday, April 19, 2015 8:35 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lol
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
― da croupier, Sunday, April 19, 2015 2:44 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Your method of conversing w me up to and including this post is totally trolling and v weird it's like you're trying to string along a semantic debate as long as possible
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link
gosh it rly is
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
my first post in this thread was a response to this again I'm not sure what 'lols' gawker is being accused of propagating in that article that aren't an inherent part of the story where i tried to explain why people could be offended by calling someone a "horny mom" after saying they may have been assaulted. the thread then devolved to the familiar "everybody arguing with d-40 about how he's not making sense/trolling/missing the point, and vica versa" - or rather i joined in on the devolving in process, as it had already reached the place where people were calling each other names.
and while i could give myself the same "they're disingenuous/stupid, i'm on a quixotic quest to call out bullshit" vanity everyone does (and d-40 copped to), when it gets to a name-calling place clearly the participants aren't just discussing the issue but trying to give each other verbal noogies. so yeah, if you want to call that "trolling" you're not wrong. though, again, pretending "didn't you write for them" is a low blow in response to "i'm nowhere near getting a gig at gawker" is obviously dubious.
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
I didn't think that was a low blow I was just literally drawing a line about us discussing my resume, in part bc I don't think it bears any relevence to the argument (I wrote one piece for them 3 years ago) and in part because I simply would rather not talk about my job on ilx which I think is a very reasonable request !
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
this reads more like the recipient of a low blow than "a reasonable request"
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
how about "a very straightforward and understandable request"
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
Are we done yet
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
oh i'm sure there will be a sequel
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
the budget on these things are very cheap and the stars clearly have nothing better on their slate
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Speaking of work I should just get you to line edit my writing
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
only if i can charge you for the time spent debating my line edits
― da croupier, Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
That's a joke btw
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link
i'd say generally da croupier wins the overall dog with a bone prize anyday, but you both could probably keep it going forever. is it popcorn gif-worthy though? you have to think of your audience. you want repeat clicks.
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
Why would I pay when you can argue here for free
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
im sure we could have a whipround and organise you not to
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
might as well be here as anywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bW2Q1i5Yik
― Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 April 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
bump
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Sunday, 19 April 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
there are all sorts of things that have a demand that nobody is obliged to supply
― Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 April 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link
What was this argument even about to begin with?
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link
hi, I'm back. What's going on?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:13 (nine years ago) link
http://lemasney.com/consulting/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/20111202.png
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:17 (nine years ago) link
It was a great national opportunity to talk about the role of the news media and about human memory. Kidding! Mostly it was people being total jerks online.
Jesus the writing in that Choire Sicha piece
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Monday, 20 April 2015 09:40 (nine years ago) link