AP style on it is as follows according to the most recent updates, fwiw:
Generally, AP does not cover suicides or suicide attempts, unless the person involved is a well-known figure or the circumstances are particularly unusual or publicly disruptive. Suicide stories, when written, should not go into detail on methods used.
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 20 April 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
that said more than a few papers/publications don't observe strict AP style the most obv example being the new york times
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 20 April 2015 18:13 (nine years ago) link
journalistic ethics guidelines are more than a little like medieval usury laws
― goole, Monday, 20 April 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link
no really, it's like . . . hemiola
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 03:21 (nine years ago) link
... Plz, bring it
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 05:37 (nine years ago) link
This is the most passive aggressive thread lol
Nah I feel like the two of us have done a pretty good job making it aggressive-aggressive
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 05:45 (nine years ago) link
aggressive-regressive
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 06:28 (nine years ago) link
it was a fun thread to drink to, anyway
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 06:30 (nine years ago) link
as the sun rises in the east, so must the denton-smith pissing contest rage onhttp://gawker.com/vice-and-bank-of-america-are-making-overdraft-fees-cool-1699215602
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
xps lol there's no point in 'bringing it' -- the world doesn't need several dozen more posts of your relentless stupidity -- i was just a lil frustrated after having caught up on the thread
when you talk nonsense about music and musicians tell you you're full of shit and then you keep going anyway, it's kind of cute in a look-at-the-seven-year-old way. when whiney zings you he's just playing peekaboo with a baby! when you talk nonsense about other things it isn't cute, just dumb
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
that amy pascal jezebel piece whoa
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link
http://jezebel.com/this-is-amazing-amy-pascals-cheap-crotch-intensive-bea-1698863025
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
that is a sterling example of the kind of blithe, pious sociopathy a pro-blogging gig can encourage, right down to the "no it's a compliment, besides who cares they're rich and famous!"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link
โ mookieproof, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:55 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Stop beating around the bush-- I literally don't know what your problem is not what you're even talking about most of the time here-- if you have an issue stop being a vague punk and tell me wtf the problem is
"Relentless stupidity" I call bullshit ... You're clearly angry about something specific
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link
first para here breaks it down to an extent http://www.fastcompany.com/3045297/today-in-tabs/today-in-tabs-lemon-aid
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link
when you talk nonsense about music and musicians tell you you're full of shit and then you keep going anyway
Like wtf is this even a reference to? A three year old argument you're clearly misremembering? (I was a musician you dumb fuck)
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
I thought this stupid argument is over but Mookie is picking at the scab
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
โ slothroprhymes, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:48 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark
if you think criticizing a major journalism organization for teaming up with bank of america for a show about teach finance to young people is about a CEO pissing match you need to take a step back from the internet for a second
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link
As far as the Amy pascal thing I wonder if I'd be more offended if I could make it through a post devoted to someone's Amazon drug store shopping cart without Finding something better to read
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
xp a soft poke (at worst) about a rivalry between new media organizations does not mean i think vice deserves a pass for doing that, either, but alright
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
What, this thread?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
yeah what is the deal with people reading vile posts to the end? xxp
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
Xpost
― da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link
"jesus stop being offended by dumb shit and focus on what's important, now where was i...FUCK YOU MOOKIEPROOF FUCK YOU"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
BoA-Vice post reads more like somebody who got an overdraft fee
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link
BREAKING: parking tickets EXTREMELY profitable for your county
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
โ da croupier, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:42 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Plz get off my nuts your entire presence is pointless
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
will somebody think of the poor disgraced rich celebrities who speaks for them i ask you who
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link
oh c'mon, clover, don't go there
― da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
this thread is crowded enough without intentional misreads
― da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
(anyone else sing the thread title to the tune of "Wham Rap!"?)
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msKI1T9i710
― da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
โ da croupier, Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:40 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And to answer your question, yes
Mookie sending aimless shots two days late is just an unfortunate side effect
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
sorry
i was busy
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
xp "besides who cares they're rich and famous!" is the worst defence. That Jezebel writer is a real piece of work.
― Continue your brooding monologue (Re-Make/Re-Model), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
i don't really think that piece needs a defense? its celebrity tabloid journalism about somebody who already had all their emails picked over in public for good cause, and compared to that the various personal beauty products they bought on amazon are hardly... noteworthy? it reads as a sort of silly ridiculous piece to me, not like a vicious mean-spirited one. this is just typical celeb gossip in the scheme of things -- wtf am i missing?
did we all of a sudden decide that very rich famous people now get to have strong protection of privacy overnight? this has basically never been the case. are people unfamiliar with the concept of a tabloid?
actually "they're famous" is a good defense btw, in that there are legal rulings that specifically say that people in the public eye have less of an expectation of privacy vis a vis news stories, etc. so it is in fact literally a defense.
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
What was the "good cause" of making these things public? I wasn't aware anyone genuinely believed that there was one.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
i mean that there was good cause for their emails to be picked over, in that those emails were of interest to the public, regarding the inner workings of a major movie studio. not a "good cause" in like the sense giving to oxfam is a "good cause".
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
Ugh sterl just read the comments on the piece
― da croupier, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
I don't trust your radar for mean-spirited bullying if you don't think this qualifies. Look at the language used, the parts of the body it dwelled on, the lack of any news value, the sheer cackling nastiness of it. In what universe is that a valid story on an allegedly feminist site?
― Continue your brooding monologue (Re-Make/Re-Model), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
it's insane to me that you guys are just going to do this every day from now on
― flopson, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
idk if this matters:
https://twitter.com/natashavc/status/590638192430309376
― goole, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link
there was a really cool piece on gawker recently about how it was really bad for blake lively to mention blues music in an ad for one of her beauty products or whatever because the blues is really about slavery
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:44 (nine years ago) link
that amy pascal piece is just brain-numbingly bad. the thought processes behind whoever thought it was right to commission it, publish it, write it... ugh.
― NotKnowPotato (stevie), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 22:58 (nine years ago) link
wonder if any stalker has tried the "no, no, no. you misunderstand. I sincerely love my victim" defense
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link
first witness for the defense: "your honor, I think people are vastly underestimating how sincerely the defendant really does love the victim."
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link
Amy Pascal was fired from Sony Pictures in February, after the massive email leak that made her look sort of mean and maybe a little racist, although not really all that bad by the standards of her industry. Wikileaks has now published a searchable archive of the emails, and Jezebelโs Natasha Vargas-Cooper, apparently unsatisfied with Pascal already being fired and disgraced, decided to make fun of her Amazon purchases too. Spoiler: Pascal has curly hair, dyes her pubes, and likes pancakes. The post is grotesque and almost unreadably mean-spirited, and in the comments, NVC veers between a manic pretense that she actually ADORES Amy Pascal!!!!!!! and that Pascal deserves whatever she gets because sheโs rich and financed some bad movies. Even Gawker commenters were largely disinclined to cheer this apparently purposeless invasion of privacy and gendered shaming. To be fair to Jezebel, as editor Jia Tolentino pointed out, they publish a lot of stuff that isnโt reprehensible trash! I guess itโs just a matter of finding the right balance between drawing much-needed attention to womensโ suffering and causing it. I canโt wait till next week, when Vargas-Cooper makes fun of the contents of Anita Sarkeesianโs medicine cabinet!
― ๐ ๐๐ข๐จ (caek), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link
I'm not clicking that link, but seriously? That's crap.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
lol at the idea of anyone defending that amazing amy story
― Treeship, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link