It seems like it would be less likely to be used in California, kind of startled me when I drove past the billboard.
― nickn, Monday, 20 April 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
the "rural" fringes of the LA area called Plantation on the Lake.
Good Lord, thought you meant Louisiana.
― pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
Makes more sense your way, I give you that.
― pplains, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
me too, and I sadly kind of figured it was possible xp
― mh, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:49 (nine years ago) link
ignorance about the historic baggage of "plantation" vs.knowing about it and thinking plantations are a beautiful part of the antebellum south, shut your mouth about that slavery thing
― mh, Monday, 20 April 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
^^^ the exact conundrum that grosses me out so much about Lady Antebellum
― bernard snowy, Monday, 20 April 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
I always wonder if people are going to assume Louisiana when I type LA (and Canada when I type CA). I should get into the habit of being more explicit on national/international forums.
― nickn, Monday, 20 April 2015 23:54 (nine years ago) link
tbf I assumed Louisiana because I've been to a place that had "plantation" in the name there, but it seems uncommon for California
then again, the place in Louisiana was a former plantation that had slaves
― mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link
It's cool. I don't think anyone ever thought Randy Newman was singing about Bastrop.
Just seeing LA in context with plantation... No, la ciudad de los angeles was not my first thought.
― pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
I know, right?!?
― mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 00:52 (nine years ago) link
L.A. also means "Lower Arkansas" or this place:
http://i.imgur.com/99SiCqp.jpg
Locations I'd expect to find in the "Plantation Places" Jeopardy category much faster than I would expect Los Alamitios.
― pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 01:03 (nine years ago) link
Although if you had followed my link you would have seen it was California (hee hee). I didn't want to call out Riverside county because it gets tarred with the "white trash" moniker too much. For locals, this is off the 10 between Redlands and Beaumont.
― nickn, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 04:50 (nine years ago) link
Also, I don't think I've ever seen anything called "plantation" out here, ever. It was a minor WTF moment for me.
― nickn, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 04:51 (nine years ago) link
I did follow the link but only looked at the images
― mh, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:50 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/IxQD1kp.gif
― pplains, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:55 (nine years ago) link
http://www.eonline.com/news/683013/kelly-osbourne-to-donald-trump-if-you-kick-all-latinos-out-of-america-who-is-going-to-clean-your-toilets
― dick wet with chickenshit (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
makes u think
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
i mean, it doesn't seem exactly racist to point out that, in America, latinos aren't always offered especially fair employment opportunities, and they're often hired to do less glamorous jobs for people like Donald Trump?
― dick wet with chickenshit (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
people are treating this like Kelly Osbourne said that the only things Latinos can do are clean her toilets and buy her records
― dick wet with chickenshit (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
"i get what she meant" etc etc but c'mon, it's an insensitive and foolish thing to say when you're debating the issues on television"in America, latinos aren't always offered especially fair employment opportunities, and they're often hired to do less glamorous jobs for people like Donald Trump" is obvs different from "but who will clean your toilets"
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link
uh immigrants from countries not full of rapists, obviously, duh
― Upright Mammal (mh), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
I could be... Trump
― Upright Mammal (mh), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
I was planning on giving the toilet cleaning job at my estate to the person who flosses my teeth.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpx0USkDGWE
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 9 November 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link
this didn't have to go here but
https://medium.com/@b4e2015/racists-probably-started-a-white-student-union-at-your-school-they-re-all-fake-5d1983a0b229#.sae7lbczm
students
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 23 November 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link
Had to look a few times at the last few letters of that link
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Monday, 23 November 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link
http://sfist.com/2015/12/17/stanley_roberts_again_calls_out_asi.php
― nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link
the selling the food angle is pretty shitty
dunno why their ethnicity needs to be mentioned at all tho
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link
someone from Glide posted in the comments:
I'm a Glide member and have participated at the grocery bag giveaway...This is something we're aware happens and, essentially, we turn the other eye intentionally because...1) We ensure that everyone that comes on time (and many that come late) get groceries2) This happens but its small number of people, relative to the thousands that are helped3) Many elderly Asian households in SF are well below the poverty line and depend on food and financial assistance4) The line takes a significant amount of time to get through; if they are desperate enough to wind through it multiple times for the small amount of money they will make selling them piecemeal on the street. Well, we've provided help to them tooIn the end, its a small thing that we don't really see as an issue at all. No we are not going to stamp peoples hands and shame those that come back. Its a pitty that for many here, the faint whiff of injustice (and really, beating on the poor for doing what they can to get by?) creates this animosity towards the poor in general.For fucks sake, we helped 6,000 to have a chance to have a holiday meal. Focusing on that.
This is something we're aware happens and, essentially, we turn the other eye intentionally because...
1) We ensure that everyone that comes on time (and many that come late) get groceries2) This happens but its small number of people, relative to the thousands that are helped3) Many elderly Asian households in SF are well below the poverty line and depend on food and financial assistance4) The line takes a significant amount of time to get through; if they are desperate enough to wind through it multiple times for the small amount of money they will make selling them piecemeal on the street. Well, we've provided help to them too
In the end, its a small thing that we don't really see as an issue at all. No we are not going to stamp peoples hands and shame those that come back. Its a pitty that for many here, the faint whiff of injustice (and really, beating on the poor for doing what they can to get by?) creates this animosity towards the poor in general.
For fucks sake, we helped 6,000 to have a chance to have a holiday meal. Focusing on that.
― nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link
the headline is specifically about "Asian" sellers, the article mentions that "most" are Asian...gross imo
― nomar, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:33 (eight years ago) link
yeah that's p fucked up
if Glide's okay w it then I don't care, really. I've volunteered there before, they are a great institution.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link
massive respect for the Glide member in the comments.
― Are you fondeling the computer. (stevie), Friday, 18 December 2015 09:36 (eight years ago) link
That entire story is disgusting.
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link
(To be clear, I am not talking about the people selling food.)
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link
Ugggh the racist posts in that thread are basically how my school's entire community talks about Asian immigrants. Somehow the Russians, Ukranians, etc etc white Christian immigrants aren't "lowering property values" but Chinese-Americans are. It's a really toxic stew around here.
― If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link
A large department store-type property remains vacant for many years, until finally the Salvation Army rents it out. Now no businesses will occupy any of the other storefronts on that block or across from it because no one wants to be associated with people who shop at the Salvation Army (apparently not just suburban highschoolers and theater majors) or have them as customers. Churches with food pantries help only to their own congregation or those known to their congregations--they don't put signs up in public or seek to serve the general public. I walk into the school office and three people who work with children every day are complaining about Chinese immigrants, right in front of me, like it's perfectly normal. Eventually I'm going to need a way to wash my brain besides soaking it in wine.
― If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link
Have you considered making up business cards that say "shut the fuck up" and handing them out to these people?
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
I have to work with these people.
― If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link
Working here is like being a spy behind enemy lines basically. One wrong word and I'm kaput (or at least will have several months' worth of relationship repair work to do, as has already happened).
― If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link
Have you considered drafting an anonymous friend to shadow these people and hand them "shut the fuck up" business cards?
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link
I am interested and would like to subscribe to this newsletter.
― If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Friday, 18 December 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
Gotta be some way to leverage that in the gig economy.
― how's life, Friday, 18 December 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link
Shut The Fuck App
― how's life, Friday, 18 December 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
omg let's workshop this
― you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Friday, 18 December 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link
"shaming these ladies, who are mostly of Asian descent," -- ah the classic "racial ascription subclause," now a unique grammatical feature of the english language.
(can't find the ", who is black" thread for some reason)
― big WHOIS aka the nameserver (s.clover), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 06:22 (eight years ago) link
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-park-nazis-20160401-story.html
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 1 April 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link
Is this anti-semitism?
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 April 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/04/20/nobody-at-snapchat-thought-using-a-blackface-bob-marley-filter-for-420-was-a-bad-idea/
― ulysses, Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:42 (eight years ago) link
Rolling 2016 Thread on Race
ps: yes, it is IMO racist
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:58 (eight years ago) link