this thread makes me feel like aaron sorkin
― Treeship, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 01:31 (nine years ago) link
just give me the trees and we can smoke it ya
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 01:44 (nine years ago) link
you're sorkin in it
― Doktor Van Peebles (kingfish), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link
treesh, this thread makes you act like aarin sorkin.
its just weird to have this conversation about some blog when like this has been tabloids forever. i find it hard to believe that this is somehow "coarsening the culture and making it less compassionate" in a context when like the Star, the Globe, and the National Examiner have been around basically forever.
anyway up with coarse culture down with smothering niceness in the name of "compassion". i'm not saying this is a great or even good article, but its entertaining to some, and i really truly and honestly don't see the harm except in some bizarre existential sense whereby this somehow "makes people not nice" or something?
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 04:34 (nine years ago) link
Explain that "Aarin" Sorkin thing. Were you being coarse
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 04:47 (nine years ago) link
i was being typo.
(incidentally, some content from the sony leaks that perhaps speaks to a more well-justified public interest: http://gawker.com/how-the-rich-get-into-ivies-behind-the-scenes-of-elite-1699066450)
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link
you do realize that jezebel doesn't market itself as "like the star, the globe, and the national examiner".
maybe this will help you understand why people aren't "what's the harm?" about it: http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/04/about-that-amy-pascal-shopping-list.html
― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 05:54 (nine years ago) link
think maybe "just some blog" could be retired for use on massive clickbait generators
― Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 05:56 (nine years ago) link
"it's not influential like the tabloids real people read, it's just some blog"
― Pat Condell tha funkee homosapien (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 05:57 (nine years ago) link
also it'd be one thing if gossip writers cop to engaging in "coarse culture", instead you get these defensive, deflective gestures about how the stars can take it, or how it's tribute, or how y'know there's also GENOCIDE in the world.
but really, when people drop the faux-cynical "i don't get why people bother get upset about piddly little bit of familiar ugliness" all i can say is "i don't get why people bother to defend something ugly that they claim neither to enjoy nor care about themselves". Like, can't you save this shit for a bad taste article you actually enjoyed?
― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 06:10 (nine years ago) link
lol at that article "misogyny-shaming" jezebel -- its a pretty incoherent argument tbh, making some sort of equation between like gg people actually stalking and threatening people and any sort of gossip-culture that covers women at all. you could levy the same argts at effectively any article about any famous person ever.
― creaks, whines and trife (s.clover), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:19 (nine years ago) link
Isn't the exact issue that you'll accuse them of hypocrisy when they do
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:21 (nine years ago) link
Xp
Nb again I don't really "get" this article -- the subject it covers seems boring -- not sure it's the greatest example of "what's wrong with tabloid journalism" unless you're talking about the general shotgun style throw it at a wall and see if it sticks internet writing attitude
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link
Well I tried
― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link
its a pretty incoherent argument tbh, making some sort of equation between like gg people actually stalking and threatening people and any sort of gossip-culture that covers women at all.
you didn't see mocking someone's beauty regimen as sexist at all?
― Treeship, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:38 (nine years ago) link
lol at the idea that Jezebel has ever been some sort of altruistic progressive space, they've always been a group of mean girls hiding being a facade of feminist identity politics. This type of stuff is par for the course for them, and the Gawker network as a whole.
― someone's attractive cousin (st. nico), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
now there's some cynicism i can at least get - but when a purportedly feminist site is like "check out what amy pascal puts on her cooch! babe you're a trip!" and the editor responds to the heat with this: https://twitter.com/jiatolentino/status/590332733441892353
going "what's the big deal, the national examiner has always done this kind of thing!" just feels like a baffling equivocation
― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:59 (nine years ago) link
http://morningafter.gawker.com/inside-amy-schumers-season-premiere-burned-so-many-idio-1699387356
Did this post get tweeted out to a bunch of MRAs or posted to thredpill or something? Gawker comments usually have plenty of assholes but they're overwhelming on this one.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 23 April 2015 01:01 (nine years ago) link
nah, these idiots have a fucking bat signal for any post that suggests men are fallible in any way
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 23 April 2015 02:43 (nine years ago) link
for all their machismo, butthurt flows through them like fucking midichlorians
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 23 April 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link
They're internet comments, think there's a rule abt them
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 23 April 2015 02:55 (nine years ago) link
don't eat them
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 23 April 2015 02:58 (nine years ago) link
i do read Gawker's cos often times there are some witty back and forths there though
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 23 April 2015 02:59 (nine years ago) link
clover's astoundingly dense itt if he can't see the difference between a self-proclaimed feminist site and the National fucking Examiner. Obviously nobody would care if Jezebel positioned itself as unapologetic gossipy trash. The suspicion, as st nico said, is that the progressive "punching up" agenda is just flimsy cover for mean-girl bullshit.
― Continue your brooding monologue (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:06 (nine years ago) link
u knew i was a scorpion all along, the scorpion replied to the frog
― entry-level umami (mild bleu cheese vibes) (s.clover), Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
smart for the scorpion to brand itself as pro-frog first
― Mordy, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
I don't think I've ever read anything by vargas cooper that didn't make me feel a bit icky.
― ryan, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
clover, the points you're rebutting are "I thought I liked scorpions but as it turns out, I don't" and "I've always thought scorpions sucked" so harping on the "Gawker = scorpion" angle doesn't actually address any of the comments anti-Gawker people are making
― DJP, Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
xp it is v much scorpion/frog territory, you read some posts and lol, then some more and lol, then you read something w/ fucked up aspects to its tone and/or intent and you're unsettled (and in this latest instance especially that discomfort is legitimate), the scorpion that has the combined faces of, idk, biddle denton ham noles and drew magary is like "ummm you knew what i was when you clicked"
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:06 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
great job being late to the scorpion references party y'all B)
which is not to say that the scorpion/website is by default entitled to be what it is just bc people are capable of knowing what it is
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 23 April 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
you knew it was a jacket with a scorpion on it all along, the ebay storefront replied to the millennial
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 23 April 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link
disappointed sterl's in his "guys of course they're the scorpion" mode rather than his "guys am i the only person watching scorpion" mode
― da croupier, Thursday, 23 April 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
lol sloth I thought your earlier post was by s. clover, hence "harping"
sorry everyone, next time I will cite
― DJP, Thursday, 23 April 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
think you should buy this as penance
― Bookmark No Bingus Permalink (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 23 April 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/FXwNxAt.gif
― Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 April 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/X2JYUVd.png
your lowercase i's look like l's sometimes.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 00:29 (nine years ago) link
http://jezebel.com/stacey-dash-owned-by-meredith-viera-after-calling-wage-1700912960?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
I realize this is parroting common Internet slang without really thinking about it but a) maybe take the 5 seconds necessary to think about where the "own" verbiage comes from, and b) don't use it in headlines, especially when you end up with "[famous black person] owned by [famous white person]", particularly when a whole bunch of black people are currently rioting over system dehumanization?
― DJP, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
yeesh
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link
i'm waiting for the day when each celeb is given an alphanumeric id like a stock ticker and all celeb news is just a brief string like
SDsh < MVra
― goole, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
that's a really good idea actually
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 April 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link
Wait, where does 'pwned' come from?
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 30 April 2015 12:25 (nine years ago) link
Computer nerds
― 龜, Thursday, 30 April 2015 12:26 (nine years ago) link
hacker/l33t speak typo-originated version of "owned"
xp yes.
― from batman to balloon dog (carl agatha), Thursday, 30 April 2015 12:27 (nine years ago) link
ymmv but the typo moves it into lol territory for me
― DJP, Thursday, 30 April 2015 13:18 (nine years ago) link
Always lol when people try to pronounce it in irl and say "pawned"
― 龜, Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
"pawned" makes more sense to me than "owned"-- "I picked you off like a pawn on a chessboard" as opposed to "I made you my property"
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
Utterances of 'pwned' rank very highly among the most cringe-inducing moments I've personally ever experienced.
― More Fetid Than Fêted (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
It's pronounced 'pooned', grandads!
― carles the jekyll (imago), Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link
don't complain about the excelsior thread ever again
― DJP, Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
powned
― i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Thursday, 30 April 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link