We're done LOOKING, it's time for Larry Kramer's Lincoln to give GAY bedSPRINGs quite a beating in 2015

I am all about "Private Joy" tho.

― Eric H., Saturday, May 2, 201

Me too. And then some.

Nobody's done anything worth hearing in over 20 years. (upon arriving in NYC on the Controversy tour, Prince went to the bus terminal men's room for recreational fun.)

goddaaamn, Eric.

wait are we judging strangers for their outdoor recreational activities now?

"this guy who says he likes to take walks in the woods sure sounds like an asshole"

i mean what

I haven't contributed to this discussion at all yet, but I don't judge anyone for liking kayaking or whatever--its just that my reaction when reading about the invite extended to sum by his boss was "ok, this has nothing to do with my life."

Not saying the trip wouldn't be pleasant (although I personally hate the sun), nor that I have anything against going shirtless around co-workers/other, richer, and, I'm assuming fitter, gay men (just let me get back into a gym routine first, please), but as clouds suggested, this is so far from resembling how my current economic status allows me to live that it is practically alien to me.

yeah, it's outside of my experiences too, which is why -- to me -- it sounds like a fine opportunity to try something new. as long as someone else is footing the bill, i mean.

idk maybe declaring your outdoor activities has a different quality when you live in an large urban center but i can assure you that less affluent people can kayak, too

Oh, absolutely take the opportunity if it sounds in any way appealing to you, and especially if someone else is footing the bill.

p.s. i prefer bette bright's version the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV6FkxTyk7Y

wow i didn't know my boss would create controversy. i don't like kayaking or most outdoor sports, but not because they are for the rich, just because i don't like them. i love tennis though.

and for the record, he is an awesome guy. even though i can barely afford to do my laundry, the fact that he has [a lot of] money doesn't detract from that.

ok fine i like rich guys. THERE. i said it. I LIKE RICH MEN. as long as they're not assholes.

Ry wants to bring pot caramels. I'm like you do what you need to do but I am NOT going to be stoned around my VP. i'll just get awkward as fuck and most likely never live it down.

obviously dosage matters but i find that edibles take the edge off my anxiety in unfamiliar situations much better than smoking, which can sometimes make me paranoid or self conscious. feed me an adult confection, though, and i'm all good

which reminds me that i need to do some baking. all the lavender almond cookies are gone but they were divine while they lasted

YUM

i just got some new hair product. i haven't had time to buy shampoo in weeks. i am excited to wash my hair. my life as you can tell is one long thrilling ride.

Nobody's done anything worth hearing in over 20 years.

is that why you don't watch movie?

*movies

no, it's why i don't listen to the music 12-year-old girls like.

My co-workers and I, like, don't even say "bye" when we leave the office.

wait are we judging strangers for their outdoor recreational activities now?

― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Saturday, May 2, 2015 9:58 AM (12 hours ago)

there's nothing inherently wrong w/ outdoor shit, i mean i bike every fucking day! it's my main mode of transportation! it's just that i see the same "kayaking, hiking, volleyball, rugby" bullshit over and over and it's like, read a fucking book once in yr life?

sorry i just don't understand when faggots became so normcore.

wow. ok.

i went to a may day rally today. it felt good to be around some lefty energy. i'm such a softie with the chants, i start to choke up, especially with the police / baltimore ones. the trans liberation movement speaker was totally inspiring.

It's hard to click on profiles that don't just thrust disco tits right out there front and center; many of those profiles are pretty hilariously preoccupied with intramurals, no doubt.

Hard NOT to click, I mean. (What's the opposite of a Freudian slip?)

oh i'm sure it's hard, at least

so life has gotten in the way of my sex life lately and i'm over it

now i just have to get over this cold

kayaking is kind of how i feel about people who listen to Wilco if that makes any sense

but actually i think you're getting the definition of normcore wrong. kayaking is not really that normal.

i doubt it

at least insofar as fashion is concerned, normcore has nothing to do with waspy guys playing golf. it's about the guy in IT who wears pleated pants.

i don't think he cares about what 'normcore' is beyond it sounding vaguely like an insult

i think normative is more the aim of the comment

the thing is, i've always had a thing for lawyers. i'm ok with normal. i'm also ok with completely fucking abnormal. which is why i'm going to my friend's birthday party today who likes me to slap her.

oooooooh

elmo: that is the opposite of correct. it's a political stance for me.

it's funny that i get called a snob when what i'm irritated by is actual snobbery.

anyway today i danced w/ my customers at the farmers market to "(not just) knee deep" and worked for 16 hours. i'm exhausted. life is wonderful. namaste.

lmao

mm. time to leave gaythread i think.

A lot of people don't realize now that it was beefs that fueled these threads back when they were 1,000-post Chicago-thread affairs.

Hard NOT to click, I mean. (What's the opposite of a Freudian slip?)

― Eric H.

a Jungian dip

Who are you calling a dip?

I do like to think of myself as Norse Jung, tho.

that's the thing, there's no "beef". i'm just tired of the idea that nothing is supposed to be criticized and personal attacks are read into everything that even touches on their interests. it's not personal at all. but millennials aren't supposed to care about shit, right? feel free to reply to this with whatever ilx-bred mannered gnomic/nonchalant repartee you wish.

you are too much, dude

no, it's why i don't listen to the music 12-year-old girls like.

THAT'S why you're always down in the dumps

you're not making any cogent criticisms here, you're just passing judgement on people based on trivial shit & it's incredibly off-putting.

enjoying volleyball means you need to "read a fucking book once in your life"

give me a break, my dude

not a chance. i have to follow my heart no matter what.

you think it's trivial, but it's actually part of a larger and very disconcerting phenomenon.

It's at least moderately justifiable in that reading is done in solitary whereas kayaking is something a prospective mate might want to do with his sex partner, or something. I dunno. Maybe people actually read the same book together side-by-side. I'm not familiar with everyone's disgusting habits.

i dunno, i just don't see anything new or particularly distressing about gay men being highly engaged in physical culture. it doesn't automatically make them idiots, in my experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNXsne8exg