i started reading it yesterday and just before the historical methods section i thought i saw a space opening up between heritage-gay and normosexual but it didn't really seem to be going there so i stopped.
― Mademoiselle Coiffures (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
less jargon, please
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
I only know who tops and who bottoms
;ashgg;askl;asdfklj;ladkjsfauewhna
― Mademoiselle Coiffures (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
just to keep Soto busy during lunch, elmo
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
the only homo heritage i'm much invested in is my collection of old skin mags & downloaded vintage pornos
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
though i was looking a mag from i think the early 70s recently and was amused to see an ad for anal douche systems running alongside an article about collectible glass paperweights
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
ha
― Mademoiselle Coiffures (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
i think it's pretty funny that seemingly every heavy leather selfie i see on tumblr was taken in this room:
http://luxhomedecor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/blank-walls1.jpg
― Mademoiselle Coiffures (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
this was the ad, btw:
http://i.imgur.com/RR4WMZa.png
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link
love it
― Mademoiselle Coiffures (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
why did you come to post the link if you didn't / won't read it?
Haha, that's exactly what I did when I posted it on my FB page.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
"Keep it clean and avoid discomfort and embarrassment."
Also noted: an ad for a set of 3 dildos in increasing sizes that would allow the purchaser to "be an accommodating host."
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
I'd rather continue down this new tangent than the article, tbh, but it was the umpteenth version of the debate over whether the thing that defines you is who you sleep with or, as the article suggests, having interest in the percale of the sheets you sleep in.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link
Which has always drawn pretty clear lines of division in this thread.
has anyone ever participated in a guerrilla queer bar? i got invited to one last night. idk how i feel about the idea tbh but hell i'll prob still go
― donna rouge, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
that image!
― surm, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:55 (nine years ago) link
That queer bombing bar thing has really taken off, huh? Have always thought that among the advantages of being gay was the fact that you didn't have to go to douchey straight bars.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
that douchebag has a 2 quart capacity and 6 year guarantee! that's a lot of douching
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link
queerbombing a straight bar sounds kinda fun but also kinda .... i don't know .... well no it actually sounds p fun lol
ugh i still remember this one night at *BAM* aka the place where we host an LGBT party called EVERYBOOTY, after a cinema event, some guy comes up to me and looks at my black leather purse and goes ... "so it's so interesting, you know, that you're, you know..."
and i was like you're so interesting fuckwad
― surm, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
The bars are typically contacted beforehand.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
i went to a queer bar takeover once but it was more "gay professional happy hour" than "rad queer occupation." i suppose it depends on who's drinking.
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link
the invite actually says "it's not a protest, it's a party"
― donna rouge, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
yes, exactly... i went to one of those 'WC' bombings with Stevie in Philly. so I signed up for the NYC one, and they're going to Yankee games and some thing where you can see Andrew Rannells. ie GTFO.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link
is that set up by the Welcoming Committee? The Twin Cities LGBT events community is trying their best to stave off an invasion.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
yes.
my personal definition of gay in 2015 is "keep me the fuck away from Andrew Rannells"
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
There's room enough under the tent for that one.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
conversely, i can say that you probably shouldn't bring your well-intentioned straight cis liberal white women friends to the eagle, no matter how fun it seems to them. inevitably one of them will ask the dj to play some donna summer and get upset when their request isn't acknowledged.
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
did i tell you guys about that guy on the street the other day who grabbed my ass? i've been losing track of stories which is why i ask
― surm, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
Did the Eagle stop playing Donna Summer? Boo.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
actually not having to go to douchey straight bars is a thing after 30.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link
idk about your local eagle but the last time i went to mine a heard a trance rework of taylor swift, so
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
surm, did you slap him?
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
Midwest Eagles are more sparrows.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
ummmmmm he GRABBED my ass and goes "are you gay"
and i was like "no comment"
and he goes "cuz i have a big dick you can suck right now and some bacardi in this water bottle"
and i was liiiiike, i hope you die
― surm, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
oh no wait i think i said i hope you die after he started calling me a pussy faggot when i turned him down
I'm trying to think of Miami straight bars that need occupying and whom I'd want to occupy with and think of 15 versions of me.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
ew @ Bacardi in a water bottle. It must taste like spotted dick.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
wow that sounds deeply unpleasant surm
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
obv i'd queer-crash a bar with any of yall any day
a str8 married couple i know asked me the other day if it's "ok" for them to go the eagle (the bar shows 'drag race' on monday nights and they're both big fans) - i told them they shouldn't worry about it, the one in LA is fairly liberal as far as that goes, except the husband's kind of bearish so don't rule out some kind of comedy of errors
xp ugh surm that's awful
― donna rouge, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link
everytime he yelled the word faggot i just said "no" - and the poor patrons of the restaurant! then he crossed the street drunk and almost died
― surm, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
anyway back to our regularly scheduled programming
yea i don't have a "no str8s in the gay bar" policy or anything but otoh it sucks to be treated like a gay tour guide as your str8 friends trade scandalized giggles at the porn playing on the tv's
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
Oh please, I still giggle at gay porn on the TVs.
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
i was walking to akbar once and i saw a guy standing stock-still in the bushes across the street - for some reason it took me a second to piece together that he was peeing (on, like, sunset blvd, very conspicuously - obv he was plastered). as i walked by him he yelled "don't look at me!" - then he waited a beat, and muttered "...unless you feel like suckin' it"
like.........my dude
― donna rouge, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link
woww
― surm, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
"thank you for the enticing offer, but i've already sucked my quota of dicks for the day"
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
The whole concept of 'crashing' bars w/ queers confuses me, as any of the few i still go to or would want to, don't have a homogeneous crowd, the New Wave night aside to some extent. (since i am banned from drinking 3 weeks out of 4 i have to pick my spots carefully.)
On my birthday i was at the indie-jukebox bar owned by my friend (gay) which serves a cross-section of Brooklyn (lotta teachers) and when there were about half a dozen past & present ILXors left, he wanted to know where "all the cute gay boys came from?" I told him sorry, only one aint straight. So that's who i drink with now, str8 boys who can pass.
aso you should be reading donna's bf's poetry, like i am!
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link
keep meaning to order that book
― Mademoiselle Coiffures (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
the poet in question read at a straight bar here in front of tvs playing rugby. he said something along the lines of, what an appropriately homosocial sport for a backdrop, iirc.
― Mademoiselle Coiffures (mattresslessness), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link