xpost totallyi have one coworker that completely idolizes don draper which is just O_o
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
well he does drink at work
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
lol
but it's like, do you WATCH the show? he's the worst!!
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
I def have a Facebook acquaintance whose eyes get misty about the symbolism and treats Don Draper as a serious comment on the American condition.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
drinking at work def a reasonable draper takeaway, everything else not so much
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
xp i mean, he kind of is, largely because almost all his problems are his own fault (idk if your friend gets the second part of that tho)
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
i think MM has been pretty generous to its characters in how it renders them as products of their own era and doesn't look back to judging them from a contemporary context, which i think has been one of its great strengths as a period piece. judgy, ahistorical presentism is the worst! but for sure, it also unleashed a legion of cufflinked assholes looking to class up their chauvinism.
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
to judge* them
― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
i don't even really like mad men all that much! i watch it mainly b/c it's the only long-term TV drama i'm invested in ATM. i don't really have time for any others.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
i have a hard time seeing don draper as a coherent "person"--i feel like a lot of "analysis" of the show shows its desperation in trying to explain don's actions in some episode in terms of his previous actions. it can get pretty tangled.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
fwiw
i don't know why i put analysis in scare quotes, that was kind of snobby of me
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
MM is just pretentious Melrose Place.
― schwantz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
i find myself only halfwatching most of the time, it's so laconic it's like it doesnt even care that its on tv lol
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
schwantz otm
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
"just"
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
PF: I just don’t think about it very often. It’s just the way it is. It can often happen that way. You get cast on a show and you don’t know what’s going to happen eight episodes from now. When you’re doing television, it’s not like a play or a movie where you know what’s coming and can plan for it. I do remember on Mad Men, Matt Weiner told me a line that was four episodes later at the time I booked it. He told me that I say, “I’ve been standing behind guys like that my whole life,” about Don Draper. Matt told me that line when I got cast because he wanted me to know that’s what I’m feeling about Don. That one line was like, “Oh yeah, of course.”http://www.avclub.com/article/patrick-fischler-mad-men-lost-and-secrets-mulholla-218573
http://www.avclub.com/article/patrick-fischler-mad-men-lost-and-secrets-mulholla-218573
Realest MM has gotten for me. And that one episode w the poor guy who got fired for taking Don's advice and promptly told him off.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
, it's so laconic it's like it doesnt even care that its on tv lol
That is hilarious. I'm totally going to steal this.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
Season 1 was decent, season 2 a bit better, season 3 not bad (though that ATF agent was one of the worst characters in tv history in terms of depiction and treatment and execution, pun intended.) downhill from there big time.
― ceres, Wednesday, May 13, 2015 5:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
season 4 was ok too, then they were just making shit up because they hadn't thought ahead about what if they didn't get cancelled
― entry-level umami (mild bleu cheese vibes) (s.clover), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
in season finale, it is revealed that Bob Benson is actually Layne Price - who faked his own death but is now BACK to exact a terrible revenge
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
:D
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
can someone please mow roger down with a car
omigod guys imagine '92 era Grant Show in 1961 finery.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
*swoon*
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
start crossover fanfic... NOW
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
and still called Jake
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
of course
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, May 13, 2015 5:41 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
b-b-b-but his bon mots though
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
they obvs make up for his wholesale destruction of his family and the epic selfcenteredness of his self loathing
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
now trying to think of what Roger would say after being hit by a car
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link
"it was.... fun"
"now I'm definitely too tired"
dada da dada da *applause*
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
ie two tire-d
ok so cars have four but its funnymaybe a moped instead
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
you've been saving that one up haven't ou
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
"Figures it'd be a Toyota"
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
awesome
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
irl lols
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
i have one coworker that completely idolizes don draper which is just O_o
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, May 13, 2015 4:27 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
people who mistake interesting characters for role modelssomeone on fb shared an article on The Toast about "books all white men own" and it had a fair number of entries with main characters that'd fall in that category of characters
― ultimate american sock (mh), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
like, I get that The Catcher in the Rye is an acclaimed book, but you know the narrator is an asshole, right?
I like Don Draper. I once wrote a blogpost calling him the Hamlet of our times.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
Hamlet is an asshole to, though.
"Do you want to be a latter-day Hamlet thinking about the hypocrisies of our times?"
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02385/network_2385848b.jpg
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
Hamlet is an asshole too, though True enough that Shakespeare makes a point of getting of the Prince's head, showing what it's like to have deal with him. As we see with Walter White, but not enough with Draper. We know he fucks & runs, that he's not a great husband & father, that he's not a great boss or business partner, but we don't see enough of people dealing with the consequences---there's not enough room, cos it's so Don-centric (Weiner said Hamm thinks this too). But of course he knows he's an asshole (Weiner" Shame is in his blood"), but that's part of his self-obsession and inner dither, which of course contribute to harmful behavior. Other than that: not bad!
― dow, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link
"...getting *out* of the Prince's head," I meant.
― dow, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 23:10 (nine years ago) link
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HH5toJ0j46E
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 May 2015 00:37 (nine years ago) link
xp inveighing against
― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 May 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
Waterloo seems to be overtaking The Suitcase as the canonical classic Best Episode http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/the-top-20-episodes-of-mad-men-20150513
― piscesx, Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:11 (nine years ago) link
"waterloo" is v good but if I'm picking a top 10 episode from season 7A it's gonna be "the strategy"
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:24 (nine years ago) link
No "Guy Walks Into An Ad Agency" or "Signal 30" on that list?
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:36 (nine years ago) link
how on earth do you guys remember episodes from that long ago?
that said, weirdly i can remember specific "cheers" episodes from my youth but i couldn't name/identify a single earlier "mad men" episode.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:57 (nine years ago) link