you can under the "ah fuck it, give him a go" clause
― bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Friday, 15 May 2015 13:22 (nine years ago) link
When you've been the DPP, you probably can. He's my MP, so it would be good if he concentrated on that role for now, right?
― scientist/exotic dancer (suzy), Friday, 15 May 2015 13:30 (nine years ago) link
Surely you can't stand for the leadership when you've been in Parliament for literally a week?― Matt DC, Friday, May 15, 2015 1:15 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Matt DC, Friday, May 15, 2015 1:15 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Too Right! I nominate Bootsy Collins.
― Mark G, Friday, 15 May 2015 13:31 (nine years ago) link
Chuka Umunna shows how the media is robbing us of ‘normal’ politiciansOwen Jones
― nakhchivan, Friday, 15 May 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
seems like dogshit, if not the sunday newspaper then because of a tacit agreement to support whichever other candidate in return for a choice shadow cabinet post
― nakhchivan, Friday, 15 May 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
Owen Jones, contempo normo
― ☂ (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 May 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link
though fairly risible in any case that the early bookmakers' favourite was a 36 yr old with no meaningful experience of the so-called 'real world' and a single parliament of courting the press and talking the same shit, though with more grace than most of the other platititudinous dorks manage
― nakhchivan, Friday, 15 May 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
keir starmer though a lawyer of some distinction and (doubtless reassuringly to the pr people) vaguely alpha in persona should not be taken for a civil libs type, any dpp is likely to be an authoritarian personality shithead and he is no different
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/libertycentral/2012/mar/07/keir-starmer-guidelines-protester-prosecution
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/jul/29/paul-chambers-twitter-joke-airport
― nakhchivan, Friday, 15 May 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link
Rachel Reeves has confirmed that she's backing Burnham, and that he has asked her to conduct an "investigation into Labour's economic record".
Burnham has also demanded Cameron secure a two year ban on EU migrants getting state support and promise an in/out referendum in 2016.
― Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 May 2015 09:16 (nine years ago) link
@KayBurley I've always liked Andy Burnham9:59am - 17 May 15
― Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 May 2015 09:22 (nine years ago) link
Tories when it comes to slashing the benefits bill, Rachel Reeves, the new shadow work and pensions secretary, has insisted in her first interview since winning promotion in Ed Miliband's frontbench reshuffle.The 34-year-old Reeves, who is seen by many as a possible future party leader, said that under Labour the long-term unemployed would not be able to "linger on benefits" for long periods but would have to take up a guaranteed job offer or lose their state support.Adopting a firm party line on welfare, the former Bank of England economist stressed that a key part of her task would be to explode the "myth" that Labour is soft on benefit costs, and to prove instead that it will be both tough and fair.
The 34-year-old Reeves, who is seen by many as a possible future party leader, said that under Labour the long-term unemployed would not be able to "linger on benefits" for long periods but would have to take up a guaranteed job offer or lose their state support.
Adopting a firm party line on welfare, the former Bank of England economist stressed that a key part of her task would be to explode the "myth" that Labour is soft on benefit costs, and to prove instead that it will be both tough and fair.
Labour left looking strong.
― Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Sunday, 17 May 2015 09:25 (nine years ago) link
Why vote for these cocks when you could vote Tory?
― Matt DC, Sunday, 17 May 2015 09:30 (nine years ago) link
is there going to be a token left candidate this time? John McDonnell, Diane Abbott again?
― soref, Sunday, 17 May 2015 09:32 (nine years ago) link
Burnham said: “The country has voted now for a European referendum and under my leadership the Labour party will not be a grudging presence on that stage. We will now embrace it. It should be brought forward to 2016.
The country has also voted for £12bn of further welfare cuts so presumably by Burnham's logic his Labour Party isn't going to quibble with that either?
Thing is at this stage of the game there's basically zero risk in saying you favour a referendum given that Cameron is virtually certain to be bounced into holding one in this Parliament whether he likes it or not. Especially given Osborne's initial attempts to renegotiate Britain's membership last week were met with "will you just fuck off? We're trying to deal with Greece here".
― Matt DC, Sunday, 17 May 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link
Labour manifesto was that they would be at least as hard as the Tories on welfare cuts, I remember Rachel Reeves saying it on television.
The thing to remember is that the Labour Party of 96 onwards does not want to be an alternative to the Torder, they want to be competition for them. It's an important distinction.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Sunday, 17 May 2015 12:23 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 18 May 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Cooper celebrates in traditional style - is there anyone left on the left at all?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 08:15 (nine years ago) link
Labour must reset relationship with business, Yvette Cooper to say
has this always always been a thing? I notice it more and more, around the election especially - reporting some politicial is to say a thing rather than has said a thing.
― conrad, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 09:09 (nine years ago) link
It's when virtually the entire text is given to the press in advance, happens for most of Osborne's statements now.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 09:28 (nine years ago) link
and still the blair crew shit on about the lack of 'modernisers' on the ballot.
― woof, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 10:04 (nine years ago) link
is there a particular benefit to fully briefing the press before a statement is actually made beyond appearing even more like a transparent operator?
― conrad, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 10:54 (nine years ago) link
It means the media don't always have to be there, getting in the way with their booms and cameras and teams of reporters and so on.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:35 (nine years ago) link
If the media aren't there, why does the politician need to be there?
― 'come around to your house and fuck your ho' (paraphrase) (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:48 (nine years ago) link
that's some schroedinger's shit right there
― p:s nerds know (dog latin), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:49 (nine years ago) link
I mean, fuck closing down a nursery school for one day so you can give some shitty speech about british values, just send out a press release.
― 'come around to your house and fuck your ho' (paraphrase) (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:56 (nine years ago) link
.. when you can just shut down a nursery school full stop right?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 11:58 (nine years ago) link
http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/221337/slide_221337_883255_original.jpg
― 'come around to your house and fuck your ho' (paraphrase) (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 13:05 (nine years ago) link
Both of them are aware who's doing who a favour there.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 13:07 (nine years ago) link
can't they just use tumblr?
― nashwan, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 13:11 (nine years ago) link
bc the westminster bubble sustains itself via pantomime
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 13:18 (nine years ago) link
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/voters-dont-actually-care-about-labours-attitude-to-aspiration-poll-finds-10266729.html
Lol.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 21 May 2015 13:16 (nine years ago) link
40% polled basically adhering to received 'wisdom' unchanged from 40 years ago (linking Labour with economic disarray). Suggesting absolutely nothing has been learned in that time.
Meanwhile net migration approaches a ten year high - probably to be blamed on the coalition preventing a real 'crackdown' now feasible.
― nashwan, Thursday, 21 May 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
It makes minimal difference anyway, the guff about aspiration isn't really aimed at voters, it's about trying to placate the RW press (and in doing so trying to calm the noise around those first three objections).
― Matt DC, Thursday, 21 May 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Umunna has officially endorsed Kendall.
― Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 09:59 (nine years ago) link
Andy Burnham's 2010 campaign logo vs Andy Burnham's 2015 campaign logo
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad53/razzlewis/Andy4Leader/afl.png https://36.media.tumblr.com/e67cc519634c47be61f3c9a5b6f7d707/tumblr_noc6e5cFiZ1uu6dvho1_500.jpg
― soref, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
2015 logo trying to be a little bit too clever for its own good imo, bring back the triangles
― soref, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
Second one emphasising how body odour is actually the heart of Labour
― an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
first one looking a bit Constructivist for today's go-ahead Labour Zero
― gong mad (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
if we're equating labour with manual toil then body odour kind of IS the heart of Labour tbf
― an absolute feast of hardcore fanboy LOLs surrounding (imago), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
it's weird, the images on his campaign's twitter feed seem to be going out of their way to avoid any hint of having been carefully or thoughtfully designed:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFJ8WvfXIAAttTl.jpg:large
― soref, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
it's perfect, all the emphasis on contemporaneity and chummy ordinariness, none of them unappealing policies or ideas
― gong mad (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
yeah, it seems intentionally made to look like an amateurish facebook macro, but it's an odd contrast with the flashy look of his last campaign
― soref, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
2015 will be all about reconnecting with the people i guess
― gong mad (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
i was listening to this Liz Kendall profile on R4 last week and there was this "She used to love Public Enemy when she was a student and does like rap music" element which seemed very forced and made her seem even more of a robotic Blairite rather than whatever the desired effect was meant to be.
― xelab, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/91/Splazsh_cover.jpg/220px-Splazsh_cover.jpg
― Matt DC, Thursday, 28 May 2015 08:38 (nine years ago) link
http://www.tshirtpod.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Hex-Illuminati.jpg
― 'come around to your house and fuck your ho' (paraphrase) (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 28 May 2015 11:28 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0263/1575/products/sbr050-moon-duo-mazes_c455b43d-f2bc-4a5a-9096-cf2b2dd02c48_1024x1024.jpeg?v=1398720065
― p:s nerds know (dog latin), Thursday, 28 May 2015 11:36 (nine years ago) link
Andy Needs your support
that capital N is pissing me off
The Mirror had her admitting to liking hip hop :/
― There was Bjork from Iceland and Alanis Morissette from Canada (onimo), Thursday, 28 May 2015 12:04 (nine years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32927139
Is the only reason the unions are backing Burham because everyone else is somehow, mysteriously, worse or is there more to it than that?
― Petite Lamela (ShariVari), Friday, 29 May 2015 11:40 (nine years ago) link