I win the Internet.
― dan selzer, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:16 (nine years ago) link
Just came on to congratulate you!
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:16 (nine years ago) link
Well, the final couple of minutes there were Lost finale bad.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:17 (nine years ago) link
haha oh dear
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:21 (nine years ago) link
I think it would have been nice to end on the guy's refrigerator speech. Don's embrace wasn't necessary. The montage was sort of nice and very ordinary; I did like that Roger was still getting off good lines till the end. The ending will greatly amuse some girls in my class who were doing exactly the same thing in the hallway earlier this year. They could have thought that through a bit more. (Lots of Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice echoes.)
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:22 (nine years ago) link
xp please. the Lost finale comparisons should be reserved for things that are truly horrible. this wasn't.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:22 (nine years ago) link
i was like nope without the coke ad but with the ad i think it's kind of amazing (not sure if good or bad)all this new age stuff just becomes yet another way to sell you things. draper or someone else in nyc figures this out pretty quicknama$te etc
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:23 (nine years ago) link
Didn't realize I wanted Steggy to happen until it did.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:23 (nine years ago) link
This was just forgettable.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:23 (nine years ago) link
(Lots of Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice echoes.)
That's what I first thought of when I saw Don at the retreat.
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:24 (nine years ago) link
I loved all the Halloween cats on The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife.
― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:25 (nine years ago) link
I'm with JF--it was okay. Saw the word "outraged" on Facebook within 30 seconds...I guess there'll be a lot of that, but really.
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:28 (nine years ago) link
I think it would have been nice to end on the guy's refrigerator speech. Don's embrace wasn't necessary.
Disagree. How many times has Don had life epiphanies, but in isolation? Embracing Leonard signaled something about this one being different imo.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:28 (nine years ago) link
that's a generous reading...
― call all destroyer, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:30 (nine years ago) link
After all that D.B. Cooper stuff, I had the sudden thought at one point that Don becomes est's Werner Erhard (which I just checked--it started in '71).
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:31 (nine years ago) link
i can't think they weren't smart enough to intend that those happy endings for everyone came off as too sentimental and too much but they really sold it. and coke
the epiphany was one more story that's going to make a great commercial sometime in the near future, i thought that was the point
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:32 (nine years ago) link
xp I would rather Don's embrace have been his last scene and not the morning meditation thing, but it's not a huge complaint.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:33 (nine years ago) link
all this new age stuff just becomes yet another way to sell you things. draper or someone else in nyc figures this out pretty quick
Or Don discovers his true self and ... he's an ad man! Gets home refreshed, sits in on the Coke meeting and says, "Picture a bluff, overlooking the ocean ..."
Finale overall was gloopier than I expected. It was OK. Lots of better episodes this season.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:33 (nine years ago) link
Slightly disappointed that Harris-Olson didn't happen, but y'know...real world.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:35 (nine years ago) link
lots of people seem to think it was implied Don went back to McCann and made the coke ad, but that doesn't make sense. Don has never been responsible for an actual, historical ad before, why start now? i dont think that was the implication at all.
― ryan, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:36 (nine years ago) link
that is, there's not a *literal* relationship between the coke ad and don's epiphany.
― ryan, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:37 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that seems like a cornball reading of the last moments.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:40 (nine years ago) link
I thought Joan's line--something like "And we'd have no one to answer to"--was a highlight. Wish Harris-Olson had happened too.
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:40 (nine years ago) link
that ad was done by mccann tho
(i'm open to any reading since this thing ended 20 mins ago, but i'm just saying)
― call all destroyer, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:40 (nine years ago) link
Lol that was pretty dumbI am glad this show is over and I can stop watching it now
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:42 (nine years ago) link
Was that the first time cocaine was used in Mad Men? I love how *shrug* it was.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:42 (nine years ago) link
I assumed the ad was written by Peggy for Joan's production company.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:43 (nine years ago) link
There's no way McCann would farm out a job to Joan.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:44 (nine years ago) link
Or Don discovers his true self and...he's an ad man! Gets home refreshed, sits in on the Coke meeting and says, "Picture a bluff, overlooking the ocean..."
Logistics or historical fact or anything else aside, I think that's a pretty great reading.
When the coke came out, I thought "They'd don't possibly have enough time to turn Joan into a drug fiend, do they?" I hated that last boyfriend of hers from start to finish.
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:45 (nine years ago) link
yeah joan's last boyfriend was always bad news. i'm glad she got rid of him
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:46 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/coreyannclark/status/600144971031773184
― How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:47 (nine years ago) link
She didn't, though. He kept jumping at the chance to leave more than once.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:47 (nine years ago) link
tweet otm
yeah - excuse me. but very glad he left. not surprised - you could see something would happen. he wanted joan to be anything and build any kind of life she wanted, except it had to be exactly what he wanted, only.
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:49 (nine years ago) link
His "cool, open-minded, retired millionaire" act was always self serving.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:51 (nine years ago) link
They seemed to get every major character in...I think you have to go down the list to Henry and Ted to find someone who wasn't. (Harry's 15 seconds seemed apropos.)
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:51 (nine years ago) link
Megan was absent too, but her story was done.
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:52 (nine years ago) link
Way too much Brett Gelman in this episode for my tastes.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 03:53 (nine years ago) link
saw brett gelman by gf was all "BEVERS!"
― How Butch, I mean (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 18 May 2015 03:53 (nine years ago) link
the behavior of people actually at this ashram or whatever is not 100% peace love harmony at all and it's kind of a frustrating place, but we can def imagine this idealized version of it in a commercial for people who weren't there, to sell you things
― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 18 May 2015 04:02 (nine years ago) link
I really did think that last guy's three minutes in the chair were great. There were similarities to Don in his story, but mostly he struck me as the complete opposite of Don; through the entire show, Don was the complete focus of everyone he came into contact with, while this guy's family didn't even look up when he got home. I understand JF's point, but my preferred ending would have been a close-up of Don looking at him as he broke down, everyone interpret as you will.
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:08 (nine years ago) link
Great moment: when that old woman shoved Don during the encounter session.
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:11 (nine years ago) link
i suppose it's a little too obscure to be immediately apparent to everyone, but Don was at Esalen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esalen_Institute
― ryan, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:15 (nine years ago) link
a great book on it: http://www.amazon.com/Esalen-America-Religion-No/dp/0226453707
― ryan, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:17 (nine years ago) link
I could've lived with 60 more seconds of Don Draper flooring a Chevelle across the salt flats and zero seconds of morning meditation.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:18 (nine years ago) link
lol @ wikipedia edit: "The Mad Men finale featured Don Draper staying at Esalin in 1970. It may have inspired his masterpiece."
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:19 (nine years ago) link
ha!
― ryan, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:19 (nine years ago) link
Just watched the ending again, and I think there's a strong suggestion in Don's smile that the Coke ad is being envisioned by him. Whether or not it matches the historical record.
― clemenza, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:32 (nine years ago) link
I don't understand why Don would go back to advertising after all that, but I've never really understood why Don does anything.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:36 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/As5Wt3h.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 May 2015 04:42 (nine years ago) link