i liked the explanation floated that they simply don't have a kevin feige - someone superinformed and respectful of the marvel legacy that speaks also speaks franchise producer-ese. Instead, Warner Bros - already in a weird bakesale mode that leads to movies with 100m budgets where Johnny Depp lives in an iPad - is throwing everything against the wall in film and tv, hoping SOMETHING sticks the way Nolan did.
It's been this way for ages - they scrapped an unrelated George Miller run Justice League movie with Armie Hammer as Batman when Nolan's movies grew legs. But the new wrinkle on the problem is thanks to Marvel's "here's how we're going to make a couple billion over the next five years" fanfare, Warner Bros shareholders want THEIR superheroverse to point at the bleachers. So they announce a flash movie that has nothing to do with the flash TV show. They've got Supergirl set to air AT THE SAME HOUR as Gotham, which may benefit CBS or Fox in terms of bragging rights but clearly not WB.
The good news for fans of cinematic art is that people like David Ayer and Zack Snyder are getting WAY more free reign than Marvel hands do, because DC is hungry for a visionary. The bad news is that I just said David Ayer and Zack Snyder.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
the alternate reality where george miller is christopher nolan in terms of influencing the dc cinematic universe sure looks sweet now, doesn't it
― da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
oh and
croupier's universe where 90s kids TV consumption makes you a nerdlinger is utterly bizarre.
nerdlingers are people who assume things have a massive global audience BECAUSE it was on 90s kids tv. for instance, "i know mad max" doesn't make you a nerdlinger. "HOW CAN THE SEQUEL TO A RECENT HIT WITH ALL THE ORIGINAL STARS DO BETTER THAN THE SEQUEL TO AN 80S CULT SERIES WITH NONE?" makes you a nerdlinger.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
admittedly, i didn't bother making that clarification previously, but how was i to know an ilxor would take offense at being called a nerdlinger
― da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
How dare you make such assertions in a thread dedicated to the Suicide Squad film.
― Ape Pagoda (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link
I've seen the "no Kevin Feige" thing responded to with "WB/DC's Kevin Feige is Geoff Johns" - the problem there is that Johns is widely loathed and somewhat responsible for DC not even knowing what the fuck they're doing in comic-land.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
tbf if Nolan and Bale WANTED to continue their Batman, i'm sure D.C. would be delighted to have them. but like Raimi and Maguire, they wanted to quit while they were ahead, so we get Affleck Batman and Leto Joker and whoever the hell is Spiderman next time around.
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
The dude who came up with "Red Lanterns are red because ANGER, Yellow Lanterns are yellow because FEAR" might be aces with respect to certain projects but he probably isn't the guy you want running a billion dollar movie franchise.
― Ape Pagoda (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
raimi didn't quit while he was ahead - he and sony broke up because he wanted spider man 4 to be a 300m movie where john malkovich played a flying cueball in green. don't get me wrong, I would have loved it, but I understand why they split.
i know they asked nolan to be the DCU's guiding hand in movieland, but he passed. smartly.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
lol just realized i could have been describing the vulture or mysterio. I meant the vulture.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
haha, i was immediately wondering which one you meant...
― Nhex, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
Raimi had a perfect line on Silver Age Spidey. It's funny that the post Raimi spider-flicks have continued to lean so heavily on 60s baddies and done them so badly.
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
i going to shy away from criticizing Johns on the movies because I have to see any evidence that he's done... anything. i don't think anyone at DC/WB has the level of power/control/corporate faith that Feige has gotten from Marvel
― Nhex, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
and whoever the hell is Spiderman next time around.
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:40 (17 minutes ago) Permalinklet's pause for a moment to ponder a james franco as spiderman performance art piece/film/experience/proto-interactive visual 3D art
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
shia lebouef IS miles morales IN
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
FP
― DJP, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 13:35 (nine years ago) link
jaden smith clearly the only sane choice to play miles morales
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 13:39 (nine years ago) link
FP again
― DJP, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
mission accomplished
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
paging djp: Jaden Smith Confirmed As Static Shock By Tyler James Williams
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 25 May 2015 09:08 (nine years ago) link
Haha I was literally coming here to post that :)
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 25 May 2015 09:11 (nine years ago) link
great news travels fast i guess
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 25 May 2015 09:34 (nine years ago) link
if dc thinks this highly of forces behind After Earth i've got my fingers crossed for M. Night Shyamalan's Sandman
― da croupier, Monday, 25 May 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
i really liked the static comics; would be curious to see a milestone resurrectionno opinion on jaden in the role
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 25 May 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
Just clued in today to the fact that this is the film they're shooting in Toronto--don't know how much of it will be shot here.
http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/portion-of-yonge-street-to-be-closed-for-hollywood-blockbuster-movie-shoot-1.2389668
― clemenza, Monday, 25 May 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
What the FUCK
― DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 01:30 (nine years ago) link
Now it's been confirmed that a teased Harley Quinn storyline was dropped from Arrow because of her appearance in this movie (which would also explain why certain other characters have been sidelined or killed off). Which doesn't explain why the parallel Flashes are being allowed to happen.
― The Freewheelin' Denny Dillon (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 11:01 (nine years ago) link
bit harder to sideline the title character than a supporting one - be interesting to see if anything becomes off-limits in the tv show when plans for the movie become clearer.
wonder who the villain for the movie will be, given that the tv show has already introduced a bunch of classic flash rogues and looks set to bring in more next season.
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 11:05 (nine years ago) link
Man, eff this movie.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
Honestly I'm quite ready to hate-watch this sucker, X-Men: Origins: Wolverine-style
― Nhex, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
I'll probably watch it but I'm bummed at what it COULD have been. Like, the Joker and Batman don't need to be anywhere near this movie, and that's the least of what's annoying about it.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 May 2015 01:22 (nine years ago) link
I'm predicting a cult classic a la Con Air.
― tsrobodo, Thursday, 28 May 2015 06:27 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLQK9la6Go
― Number None, Monday, 13 July 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link
finally a comic book movie that proves they're not just for kids
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 July 2015 20:33 (eight years ago) link
hollywood: please stop gary jules-ing all the songs
― polyphonic, Monday, 13 July 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
Will this one finally reveal how Batman became Batman? Or how Superman became Batman? Or how Batman became Spiderman?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2015 20:46 (eight years ago) link
"we're some kind of suicide squad cross-leveraged corporate intellectual property clusterfuck"
― Οὖτις, Monday, 13 July 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
Somehow doesn't look as bad as the action sequences in Batman v Superman
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 13 July 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
realllly curious how this has been budgeted - and projected to be rated
― da croupier, Monday, 13 July 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
cuz if it's rated R and north of 100m it has to do as well as Mad Max Fury Road to be any kind of hit
i'll see it, but i also saw jonah hex
― da croupier, Monday, 13 July 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
DC is in serious self clowning mode (pun intended)
― Cory Sklar, Monday, 13 July 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
still amazed how much they've banked on Batman v Supes being adored. They're going to from making a DC supermovie a year - only the batmans connected, because only the batmans were big, to a series of super-connected films once every six months or so.
― da croupier, Monday, 13 July 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
holy shit that looks great doesn't it?? i wish it was like.. X rated.
― piscesx, Monday, 13 July 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
wat
― Cory Sklar, Monday, 13 July 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link
The Po-Faced Absurdity of DC Comics (picture thread)
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link
snyder sure loves his dour serious trailers doesnt he
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 01:35 (eight years ago) link
i dunno looks silly and fun and will smith will be in charm mode and adewale akinnuoye-agbaje will be in, uh, a lot of makeup
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 06:28 (eight years ago) link
bring on the r-rated funnybook flix imo
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 06:29 (eight years ago) link
Task Force X-Rated, mor lik
Still, am far, FAR more interested in this than any BvS/JLA flick, due to the Ostrander/Yale years making the comic one of the most compelling/progressive titles on the Big Two's rosters during the Bronze/Chromium Age
If they can get the Waller/Deadshot/Boomerang interchange working, then I'm happy. If they can get a proper Waller/Batman interaction working, I'll be ecstatic.
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Tuesday, 14 July 2015 07:09 (eight years ago) link