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poor Jon Huntsman

DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it was crazy. Bachmann even had her 15 minutes of fame for winning the Iowa straw poll.

Competent Cracker Barrel Manager (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link

"bullied to the right" is absolutely a thing, but feeling obliged to take up specific totally wonk-o-matic policy positions is more of a reach IMO. the base likes their nuts but they also get excited when they think they see a straight-shooting winner. remember that week or two when we were all terrified Rick Perry was an unstoppable combination of good looks and right wingery packaged in a straight-talkin', mainstream-ready politician with unassailable stage presence and grace under fire? (actually that would be a good reminder in general that by this time next year the field will likely look very very different...)

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link

idk wld be willing to bet money that jeb and rubio will be forced to track hard right on immigration this cycle

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link

btw, has newt said anything about a possible 2016 run? does anyone care about him anymore?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link

no rational person thought Cain Bachmann Newt etc had a prayer of being nominated at the time of their "frontrunner" status.

Perry makes W look like a smoothie

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

(not the fruity kind)

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

rubio fwiw has already been forced way off his supposedly gop saving immigration plan of a couple years ago

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

no rational person thought Cain Bachmann Newt etc had a prayer of being nominated at the time of their "frontrunner" status.

this is what made their "frontrunner" status hilarious

DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

no rational person thought Cain Bachmann Newt etc had a prayer of being nominated at the time of their "frontrunner" status.

― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:48 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is what made it so funny that they were polling ahead of romney

haha xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link

so basically it was the MSM saying "this week on Knots Landing"

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link

it was the lamestream media iirc

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link

or Real Housewives of Greenville, South Carolina

xp

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link

yep

DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link

lamestream media calling actual voting americans on the phone smh what a farce wake up sheeple

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link

so Rick Perry topped out at 30% and then, i presume, began talking a lot

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link

basically!

DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link

he made three big mistakes, i'm sure i can remember them, just give me a second here

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link

literally the only time in my life that I've cheered Ron Paul

DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link

when perry said he had a list of three government agencies he wld eliminate and cld only remember two lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link

i always thought it was "oops" that really sunk perry, but looking back at the polls he was already divebombing in the month before that happened

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link

"oops" was on Nov 9, 2011, but he was already far from his 32% peak by then

http://i.imgur.com/dCqxA4X.jpg

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link

he must have committed a serious of embarrassing errors sometime between Sept 25 and Oct 14

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

or, since almost all of his losses in the polls during that those few weeks went straight to herman cain, it's possible that millions of american voters just love pizza

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link

its verifiably true that they do

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_debates,_2012

September 22, 2011 – Orlando, Florida

The sixth Republican debate was held at the Orange County Convention Center in Orlando, Florida, and was sponsored by Fox News Channel and Google. It was moderated by Chris Wallace, Bret Baier, and Megyn Kelly. The debate was only the second of the 2012 cycle to feature former governor Gary Johnson of New Mexico; he was also in the May 5, 2011 debate. This debate in particular was prominent as featuring the highest amount of candidates in attendance; out of the ten major Republican candidates for the Presidential nomination, only former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty was absent, as he had already dropped out of the race at this point in time.

The debate engendered controversy when a pre-recorded question fielded by Army service member Stephen Hill from Iraq via YouTube, concerning whether any one of the candidates would reinstate the recently retired "Don't ask, don't tell" policy excluding openly-gay soldiers like himself from the US military, elicited vocal booing from a few audience members; Santorum, whose turn it was to answer a question, stated that "I would say any type of sexual activity has no place in the military" after the booing had subsided, and was applauded by the audience for his response. Rick Perry drew criticism from the other candidates over the Texas DREAM Act, which provides discounts for tuition prices for the children of illegal immigrants. Perry's response, that the other candidates didn't "have a heart" was poorly received by conservatives.[16][17]

Perry's overall performance was criticised. His speech was so garbled that Mark Hemingway of the Weekly Standard asked if he had suffered a stroke,[18] and Brit Hume of Fox News stated that Perry, "at a time when he needed to raise his game, I mean, he did worse, it seems to me, than he had done in previous debates."

Gary Johnson, who lagged in polls and media attention, made headlines and became the most searched-for candidate on Google for several hours for a joke he made towards the end of the debate, saying, "My next-door neighbor's two dogs have created more shovel-ready jobs than this administration."[19]

DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link

i wonder who the tim pawlenty of the 2016 GOP primary will be

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link

hopefully it will be Tim Pawlenty

DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link

Plenty of Pataki to go around

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link

who the fuck was gary johnson? I don't even remember him.

I liked Jon Huntsman.

akm, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link

i thought i had a picture of gary johnson in my head, but it turned out it was jon huntsman, ha.

garys don't have a good track record in these things really. bauer was just doomed from the word 'go.' those creepy eyes. feel like he reminds me of some 80s comedy movie villain or something but i can't place who.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

Gary is an asshole name. And I liked Hart.

akm, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

former governor of New Mexico. ran as a libertarian who actually believes in climate change and that gay marriage is a civil right, not a "state's right"

big fat rascal (will), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

in other words, fucked right out the gate

big fat rascal (will), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

Jon Huntsman spoke Mandarin, served in a Democratic administration, believed in climate change, and played in a prog rock band. He had the '76 nomination sealed.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

garys don't have a good track record in these things really. bauer was just doomed from the word 'go.' those creepy eyes. feel like he reminds me of some 80s comedy movie villain or something but i can't place who.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Gary is an asshole name. And I liked Hart.

― akm, Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:38 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

History[edit]
The usage of Gary as a given name is intertwined with the success of the actor Gary Cooper (originally Frank Cooper). The American industrialist Elbert Henry Gary left his name to the town of Gary, Indiana. The theatrical agent Nan Collins, who lived in this town, suggested the name Gary to Frank Cooper, one of her clients. Cooper thus adopted the name Gary and enjoyed a successful film career (as Gary Cooper) which caused the name to become popular.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

Hart, the so-called Atari Democrat, presaged every odious trend in the Democratic party for the next 15 years.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link

I did not know that about "Gary!" Wow.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

you mean, the Clintons?

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

all 3 of them were McGoverniks, Hart a rather high-ranking one)

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link

Hart looked good next to Ernest Hollings and John Glenn.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link

oh cripe those shits

i saw Hart speak at NYU in front of a fairly small crowd, probably in '83. I think I probably voted for Mondale in the NJ primary in June '84.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link

I met Gary Hart! He shook my hand and said, "I'm the next president of the United States". That was probably a month before all the shit went down. No, his hand did not have Donna Rice on it.

akm, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

haha I met him too on my one childhood trip to DC, he was just walking around

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

that reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJGrUuwL1B0

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

xpost

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

I didn't much like him but The Miami Herald ruined journalism by pursuing that Rice story.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link

i always thought it was "oops" that really sunk perry, but looking back at the polls he was already divebombing in the month before that happened

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:57 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My memory was that his debate performances previous to oops were awful and it was just the coup de grace

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link

nothin a pair of glasses won't fix

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link

I think Herman Cain could have gotten the nomination if he wasn't an idiot with personal baggage, if you get what I mean. Like a different pizzaman could have done it.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link


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