poor Jon Huntsman
― DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, it was crazy. Bachmann even had her 15 minutes of fame for winning the Iowa straw poll.
― Competent Cracker Barrel Manager (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
"bullied to the right" is absolutely a thing, but feeling obliged to take up specific totally wonk-o-matic policy positions is more of a reach IMO. the base likes their nuts but they also get excited when they think they see a straight-shooting winner. remember that week or two when we were all terrified Rick Perry was an unstoppable combination of good looks and right wingery packaged in a straight-talkin', mainstream-ready politician with unassailable stage presence and grace under fire? (actually that would be a good reminder in general that by this time next year the field will likely look very very different...)
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link
idk wld be willing to bet money that jeb and rubio will be forced to track hard right on immigration this cycle
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
btw, has newt said anything about a possible 2016 run? does anyone care about him anymore?
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:47 (nine years ago) link
no rational person thought Cain Bachmann Newt etc had a prayer of being nominated at the time of their "frontrunner" status.
Perry makes W look like a smoothie
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
(not the fruity kind)
rubio fwiw has already been forced way off his supposedly gop saving immigration plan of a couple years ago
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
this is what made their "frontrunner" status hilarious
― DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:48 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is what made it so funny that they were polling ahead of romney
haha xp
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
so basically it was the MSM saying "this week on Knots Landing"
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
it was the lamestream media iirc
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
or Real Housewives of Greenville, South Carolina
xp
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
yep
― DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
lamestream media calling actual voting americans on the phone smh what a farce wake up sheeple
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
so Rick Perry topped out at 30% and then, i presume, began talking a lot
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
basically!
― DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
he made three big mistakes, i'm sure i can remember them, just give me a second here
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
literally the only time in my life that I've cheered Ron Paul
― DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
when perry said he had a list of three government agencies he wld eliminate and cld only remember two lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
i always thought it was "oops" that really sunk perry, but looking back at the polls he was already divebombing in the month before that happened
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
"oops" was on Nov 9, 2011, but he was already far from his 32% peak by then
http://i.imgur.com/dCqxA4X.jpg
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link
he must have committed a serious of embarrassing errors sometime between Sept 25 and Oct 14
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
or, since almost all of his losses in the polls during that those few weeks went straight to herman cain, it's possible that millions of american voters just love pizza
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
its verifiably true that they do
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_debates,_2012
September 22, 2011 – Orlando, FloridaThe sixth Republican debate was held at the Orange County Convention Center in Orlando, Florida, and was sponsored by Fox News Channel and Google. It was moderated by Chris Wallace, Bret Baier, and Megyn Kelly. The debate was only the second of the 2012 cycle to feature former governor Gary Johnson of New Mexico; he was also in the May 5, 2011 debate. This debate in particular was prominent as featuring the highest amount of candidates in attendance; out of the ten major Republican candidates for the Presidential nomination, only former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty was absent, as he had already dropped out of the race at this point in time.The debate engendered controversy when a pre-recorded question fielded by Army service member Stephen Hill from Iraq via YouTube, concerning whether any one of the candidates would reinstate the recently retired "Don't ask, don't tell" policy excluding openly-gay soldiers like himself from the US military, elicited vocal booing from a few audience members; Santorum, whose turn it was to answer a question, stated that "I would say any type of sexual activity has no place in the military" after the booing had subsided, and was applauded by the audience for his response. Rick Perry drew criticism from the other candidates over the Texas DREAM Act, which provides discounts for tuition prices for the children of illegal immigrants. Perry's response, that the other candidates didn't "have a heart" was poorly received by conservatives.[16][17]Perry's overall performance was criticised. His speech was so garbled that Mark Hemingway of the Weekly Standard asked if he had suffered a stroke,[18] and Brit Hume of Fox News stated that Perry, "at a time when he needed to raise his game, I mean, he did worse, it seems to me, than he had done in previous debates."Gary Johnson, who lagged in polls and media attention, made headlines and became the most searched-for candidate on Google for several hours for a joke he made towards the end of the debate, saying, "My next-door neighbor's two dogs have created more shovel-ready jobs than this administration."[19]
The sixth Republican debate was held at the Orange County Convention Center in Orlando, Florida, and was sponsored by Fox News Channel and Google. It was moderated by Chris Wallace, Bret Baier, and Megyn Kelly. The debate was only the second of the 2012 cycle to feature former governor Gary Johnson of New Mexico; he was also in the May 5, 2011 debate. This debate in particular was prominent as featuring the highest amount of candidates in attendance; out of the ten major Republican candidates for the Presidential nomination, only former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty was absent, as he had already dropped out of the race at this point in time.
The debate engendered controversy when a pre-recorded question fielded by Army service member Stephen Hill from Iraq via YouTube, concerning whether any one of the candidates would reinstate the recently retired "Don't ask, don't tell" policy excluding openly-gay soldiers like himself from the US military, elicited vocal booing from a few audience members; Santorum, whose turn it was to answer a question, stated that "I would say any type of sexual activity has no place in the military" after the booing had subsided, and was applauded by the audience for his response. Rick Perry drew criticism from the other candidates over the Texas DREAM Act, which provides discounts for tuition prices for the children of illegal immigrants. Perry's response, that the other candidates didn't "have a heart" was poorly received by conservatives.[16][17]
Perry's overall performance was criticised. His speech was so garbled that Mark Hemingway of the Weekly Standard asked if he had suffered a stroke,[18] and Brit Hume of Fox News stated that Perry, "at a time when he needed to raise his game, I mean, he did worse, it seems to me, than he had done in previous debates."
Gary Johnson, who lagged in polls and media attention, made headlines and became the most searched-for candidate on Google for several hours for a joke he made towards the end of the debate, saying, "My next-door neighbor's two dogs have created more shovel-ready jobs than this administration."[19]
― DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
i wonder who the tim pawlenty of the 2016 GOP primary will be
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
hopefully it will be Tim Pawlenty
― DJP, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link
Plenty of Pataki to go around
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
who the fuck was gary johnson? I don't even remember him.
I liked Jon Huntsman.
― akm, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
i thought i had a picture of gary johnson in my head, but it turned out it was jon huntsman, ha.
garys don't have a good track record in these things really. bauer was just doomed from the word 'go.' those creepy eyes. feel like he reminds me of some 80s comedy movie villain or something but i can't place who.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
Gary is an asshole name. And I liked Hart.
― akm, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
former governor of New Mexico. ran as a libertarian who actually believes in climate change and that gay marriage is a civil right, not a "state's right"
― big fat rascal (will), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
in other words, fucked right out the gate
― big fat rascal (will), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
Jon Huntsman spoke Mandarin, served in a Democratic administration, believed in climate change, and played in a prog rock band. He had the '76 nomination sealed.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― akm, Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:38 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
History[edit]The usage of Gary as a given name is intertwined with the success of the actor Gary Cooper (originally Frank Cooper). The American industrialist Elbert Henry Gary left his name to the town of Gary, Indiana. The theatrical agent Nan Collins, who lived in this town, suggested the name Gary to Frank Cooper, one of her clients. Cooper thus adopted the name Gary and enjoyed a successful film career (as Gary Cooper) which caused the name to become popular.
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
Hart, the so-called Atari Democrat, presaged every odious trend in the Democratic party for the next 15 years.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
I did not know that about "Gary!" Wow.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
you mean, the Clintons?
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
all 3 of them were McGoverniks, Hart a rather high-ranking one)
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
Hart looked good next to Ernest Hollings and John Glenn.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
oh cripe those shits
i saw Hart speak at NYU in front of a fairly small crowd, probably in '83. I think I probably voted for Mondale in the NJ primary in June '84.
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
I met Gary Hart! He shook my hand and said, "I'm the next president of the United States". That was probably a month before all the shit went down. No, his hand did not have Donna Rice on it.
― akm, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
haha I met him too on my one childhood trip to DC, he was just walking around
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
that reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJGrUuwL1B0
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
xpost
I didn't much like him but The Miami Herald ruined journalism by pursuing that Rice story.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:57 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My memory was that his debate performances previous to oops were awful and it was just the coup de grace
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
nothin a pair of glasses won't fix
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
I think Herman Cain could have gotten the nomination if he wasn't an idiot with personal baggage, if you get what I mean. Like a different pizzaman could have done it.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 26 May 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link