Your 2016 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

after 8 years of bernie sanders memes

DON: A lot of us struggled during that period. You're talking about the worst terrorist attack on American soil. Some of us wanted revenge. I've had to deal with that kind of anger most of my life. It was difficult to find one's moral barings.

GLENN: *blasts Better in the USA*

DON: Well, yeah.

please spare me Don's moral barings

his immoral ones too, for that matter

the bearings of don, a lost mad men episode

interesting observation re sanders world view http://www.vox.com/2015/5/27/8671135/bernie-sanders-race

― lag∞n, Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:05 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk; is there any poll data to back up the claim that non-white voters are uninterested in sanders?

is it even that interesting? Sanders has always presented himself as old-school American democratic socialist. Viewing class issues as the prime mover is kind of necessary for that ideology and it's not like the piece can even point to him being hostile to "cultural issues" or backwards on race or something, it's just that he views them through the lens of Marxist analysis.

"In liberal circles, it now seems impossible to have cared deeply about human rights, to have cared about gay rights, and to have objected to gay marriage, even though that was the exact position of almost all liberals very recently."

I call bullshit. About 25% of Americans self-describe as liberal and 40% of Americans supported gay marriage a decade ago. Not enough libertarians to make this add up.

i will admit that, 2000 and on, the Green Party seems to have done a mediocre to terrible job of attracting minority voters (I think they may have improved a little in the last couple years). Some lazy pundits are pigeonholing Sanders as a New Nader (stupidly since Bernie is a career politician), so maybe they assume a Sanders campaign will similarly draw on white tofu eaters.

xxp

is it even interesting that sanders pays no attention to many of the issues that are key to a large section of the democratic coalition? yes it is next question

you know what other progressive issue sanders is nowhere on... gun control, almost like his politics were shaped in an oddly egalitarian completely white rural state that doesnt really reflect the democratic party as a whole

yes well they are woodsmen

signed up to volunteer for bernie the other day

now he won't stop emailing me

organized up the ass! surprising!

you know what other progressive issue sanders is nowhere on... gun control, almost like his politics were shaped in an oddly egalitarian completely white rural state that doesnt really reflect the democratic party as a whole

― lag∞n

I tend to think, "Vermont is weird, it's got hunters."

those are both true, tho the 96% white part is important too

and fwiw its not just got hunters it has amongst the most permissive gun laws in the country including concealed carry w/o a licence

which sanders is and always has been 100% cool with

not many people in Vermont, and they're ugly

wow rude

You never know when the Québécois are gonna jump the border, take your grants.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGF25NbUEAAQB6o.png

Surprised to see Goldwater that far to the right, even compared to contemporary Republicans. In later, post-Senate life he would certainly be further to the left. Strong supporter of Dole, I recall - hated the religious right.

But going by that chart, Ted Cruz = immediate nuclear war.

I've seen an earlier version of that chart on ILX before (possibly upthread?) - there's an article around somewhere talking about the specific things it's measuring on both "congressional voting record" and "public issue statements" which is why the wide spread on the Pauls.

wide spread on the Pauls

gnnnnnuhhhhhhh

i hope you will also give a fair, honest listen to my new song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWTzcOgKTLo

93 people like this

https://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Are-Watchmen/844419498965547

haha that is some extremely good shit never wldve occurred to me how well some 25th rate lupe feat feeb coldplay type song wld marry with ultra conservative politics

somehow scrambled that into ''lupe feeb fiasco'' and was really hoping that was the name of some also-ran punk band or sth

wow the pauls are just huge liars

from the CJR: http://www.cjr.org/analysis/bernie_sanders_underdog.php

That "Set It On Fire" is some awesome clenched fist, clenched teeth, clenched asshole demagoguery.

wow the pauls are just huge liars

― Mordy, Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:34 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its a quality body of work.. also impressive how the media pays absolutely no attention to the disconnect.

more wisdom from JE!

"The president is more than just a head of parliament; he’s also the symbol of our country in many ways," he added later.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/05/27/with-gop-field-growing-jeb-bush-sharpens-critique-of-would-be-opponents/

Bush said he welcomed the opportunity to explain his views on both subjects "because I find it interesting that people who share that view -- rather than stick with the view and try to persuade people about it -- in many cases have actually abandoned their views."

that is a w-level failed sentence, good luck out there j.e.

he's supposed to be the smart one

the smart one, ladies and gents

family no talk good

His father sounds like Samuel Johnson by comparison

imagine the totally incoherent arguments Dubya and JE must have had

'wow that's smart, you're smart!' 'thanks, so are you!' 'we totally deserve to be presidents, both of us!' 'sure do!'

http://i.imgur.com/A9cQYPy.jpg

well looks like Hastert's jail-bound:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Ex-US-Speaker-Hastert-indicted-on-bank-related-6292720.php

:)

http://i.imgur.com/A9cQYPy.jpg
JEB: I have a green belt ... read it and weep
Dubya: I don't believe in belts

Jeb: I farted
W: I know

hastert sexual abuse while he was high school wrestling coach holy shit

Has Hillary announced her candidacy yet? Rumors are flying.

p sure Hastert was not running for prez THIS time