from what I've read of his positions he would not have shocked a young lib in the Roosevelt administration.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link
Teddy Roosevelt's administration eiher
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
xpost
right.
some article and posts upthread referred to him as a marxist, and that didn't seem right to me.
i wonder if hilary will red-bait or if that just seems like an old battle that was fought and won. i'm glad sanders will be in the debates. i'll vote for him too, if he sticks around.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
sanders is a social democrat ie a liberal
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link
does he no longer call himself a "socialist"? i believe he did at one pt.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
he does but he was never referring to the anti-capitalist seize the means of production kind of socialism ie socialism
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
hes basically on old school liberal or a nordic model socailist
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
it is the best kind of government but ppls insistance on calling it socialism is odd
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
also: the direct democracy of northeastern hamlets and burghs.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
i think one reason sanders might not emphasize race as much as some others is because he's from... vermont.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
mightve been mentioned
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont#Race_and_gender
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
manic nordic model dream socailist
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
dunno how Sanders is gonna stand up to the charismatic dynamo that is Lincoln Chafee
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
Lincoln Chafee definitely has a better name
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
idk it kind of... chafes
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
whoa, hastert thing gets worse and worse
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/30/us/politics/hastert-indictment.html
J. Dennis Hastert, the former speaker of the House of Representatives, was paying a man to not say publicly that Mr. Hastert had sexually abused him decades ago, according to two people briefed on the evidence uncovered in an F.B.I. investigation into the payments.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
wrong thread
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
of course, for all we know, it could be a simple act of extortion, but if so hastert handled it in the skeeviest way possible.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link
?
oh oops
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/604384185336246272
workin the tuff grandma angle
― j., Friday, 29 May 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
George Pataki sure must be pissed that Hastert rained on his parade today
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
I'm constantly amazed at the kind of memory people have for this kind of weird shit:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/243418-dennis-hastert's-weird-2014-CSPAN-call
I wouldn't have thought twice about that call; and it might wind up being unrelated; but that it even stuck in someone's head long enough for cspan to have created a page for it and for people to bring it up now is ... i don't know how much time people have to obsess on this kind of ephemera.
― akm, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
also that caller sounds kind of young to have been abused by Hastert in the 60's but maybe he's turned into some kind of man-child, like a Chuck and Buck thing.
― akm, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
Denny and Benny
― akm, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
I'll stop now.
still the rong thread
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 May 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
also does the extortionist get to keep the money in this case? i mean, obv they know who it was and that person hasn't been indicted.
― akm, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
all is president
I'm not sure who's more of a hopeless vacuum - Pataki or Chafee
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 May 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
― j., Friday, May 29, 2015 4:45 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
smart
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
also that caller sounds kind of young to have been abused by Hastert in the 60's
― akm, Friday, May 29, 2015 4:52 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the implication is that it was an open secret
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
that what was an open secret? the abuse? the phone call? if it's an open secret then why pay hush money if people already know about it?
― akm, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
your paying hush money to the person who can testify against you, a rumor in yr old town isnt enough to get you in touble
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
i mean if this was a serial abuse situation i guarantee u the word got out or at least kids were suspicious
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
there was a drivers ed teacher from my school who ended up going to prison after teaching for 25 years and every single girl at school was like that guy is creepy and up to no good
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 May 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
it's sad that i didn't even think to wonder how a congressman ended up with 3.5 million to expend
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/29/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html?_r=0
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 May 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
O'Malley is officially in. Announcement speech seems a little rough around the edges, but he's got time I guess. Love how CNN is playing up his low poll numbers versus Clinton - - - uh oh, trouble ahead!!! - - he literally just announced his campaign! Like, minutes ago!
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 30 May 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link
I'd be surprised if he's even doubled the number of people who know him vs. this time last year. He's got a long road.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 30 May 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link
omalleymentum is in full swing!
― lag∞n, Saturday, 30 May 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
O'Mentum, surely
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 30 May 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
whoa lets not get carried away here
― lag∞n, Saturday, 30 May 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
O'mallaria
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 30 May 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
I wonder if Carcetti has better name recognition at this point
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 May 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link
what do you folks think of o'malley? is he a serious person? (i don't mean a serious candidate.)
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Sunday, 31 May 2015 00:43 (nine years ago) link
Grahamtastic!
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 June 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
is America ready for a gay vice president?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 1 June 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link