Your 2016 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

some beautiful clouds on this website https://rickperry.org

― lag∞n, Thursday, June 4, 2015 11:31 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TLtg4KfyL4

already have Hilshit in for 2 terms, huh guys

Christ, you are bigger hopelessniks than i am

plus i imagine Senator Warren will be persuaded to run vs President Walker in 2020.

I think Hillary's gonna win this, I'm not willing to prognosticate farther than that - things are too unpredictable

Why would Sen. Warren run in 2020 if Hillary's still around?

if she does win in 2016 she'll have huge incumbent advantages going into 2020 including a powerful political machine that will only grow more powerful from 4 years of hillary WH, and there's still no indication that the republicans can put together a compelling candidate tho obv that could change quickly especially if they lose in 2016 and decide to switch the emphasis of the party towards someone more electable.

Someone more electable than Hillary? Not quite reading you here.

republicans are fine with controlling congress and having a puncher's chance at the white house

Someone more electable than the current slate. A Hillary WH disaster plus slightly more reasonable Republican candidate could mean she loses in 2020 is what I'm saying.

the problem with, and im sure ive said this before here, republicans switching the emphasis of the party to something more electable is theyre still very electable on the congressional level due to unfair structural elements, and its not possible for them to change their pitch on the presidential level without also changing in on the congressional level, which will not happen until they start to lose congress too, and even then theyd still have to deal w the fact that the majority of their base wld freak the f out if they say became slightly less racist

republicans are fine with controlling congress and having a puncher's chance at the white house

― Aimless, Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yep

i mean im sure theyd like to control both but its just not possible rn

Hillary Rodham Clinton is who I have in mind, just to clarify. Not this HIllary who could lose in 2020, whoever that is.

which is not to say they cant win the presidency just that all things being equal theyre at a disadvantage

but Mordy, what about the tens of thousands dead from coastal flooding in 2017-2020?

you guys are gonna be playing horserace til your kids ask you why the hell you gave them this world, i guess

especially if they lose in 2016 and decide to switch the emphasis of the party towards someone more electable.

Which was, in fairness, the plan in 2012 (for 2016).

the problem with, and im sure ive said this before here, republicans switching the emphasis of the party to something more electable is theyre still very electable on the congressional level due to unfair structural elements, and its not possible for them to change their pitch on the presidential level without also changing in on the congressional level, which will not happen until they start to lose congress too, and even then theyd still have to deal w the fact that the majority of their base wld freak the f out if they say became slightly less racist

otm

but Mordy, what about the tens of thousands dead from coastal flooding in 2017-2020?

you guys are gonna be playing horserace til your kids ask you why the hell you gave them this world, i guess

― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius),

the coasts will flood before the kids ask that question

you guys are gonna be playing horserace til your kids ask you why the hell you gave them this world, i guess

you know some of us do things, say, in our professional lives, that are maybe more significant in this respect than spitballing odds about national politics.

just sayin

like I dunno what everybody else does for a living but this thread is not the sum total of my daily efforts to make the world a better place

i'm with Morbs in the silliness of spinning stories eight years down the line. BUT because i can't resist indulging in fanfic, there are tons of ways that hillary wins in 2016 and is not the candidate in 2020! i mean it basically happened with LBJ. and all the presidents who died in office. lots of things happen in four years. the "long game" is always illusory IMO.

Wait a minute the coast is going to flood in 2 years?

being interested in the horserace and the substance are not mutually exclusive or unrelated

you guys are gonna be playing horserace til your kids ask you why the hell you gave them this world, i guess

I'm very open to alternatives, morbs. what do you suggest?

there are tons of ways that hillary loses in 2016

hillary cld def lose, i wldnt put money on it right now but its for sure possible

sure. many things are possible.

not to be morbid but she could have a heart attack tomorrow and bernie sanders would (temporarily) be the front-runner. the future is not set. same goes for every candidate ever, but given that hillary has managed to be the assumed "next" candidate for seemingly eons --- including in 2008! --- it maybe does jump out a bit here, the heir-apparent thing. i don't mean any of that to discount the enormous structural forces of money and power, the "invisible primary," the pathetic republican field, everything else. and obviously it's a "speculation" thread, says so right in the name.

the thing that worries me abt hillary re the election is she has repeatedly shown herself to be the most unnatural of politicians, that and surrounding herself with schemers and fools, on both points she seems to be doing better this time but obvs the heat is not really on yet

god I almost threw up when I heard Sidney Blumenthal's still her henchman.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGrBs7VWwAAf4cl.png

omg does perry have big sons

are they gay?

they are certainly Castro-ready

with that look they have going on anyway

it's Texas, where the boys are big and the steers are nervous

i can't wait to have this conversation w/ my kids

Kids: Abba, why didn't you stop the coastal flooding that cost thousands of lives?
Me: Well, kids, back in 2015 there was this message board called ILX and I just couldn't stop posting on this speculation thread about the 2016 election. I'm so sorry.

I couldn't stop voting for celebrities

Are those all his sons? How come some of his sons look older than he is? Is Perry a shapeshifter who does not age!?!?

we all thought it was more important to talk abt the campaign, except one brave man who knew better... i think he died in the floor or whatever who wants to go to pittsburgh beach!

so with Chafee, Bern, O'Malley and Herself we have 4 Dems. Any others coming?

webb maybe

Reagan.

aren't all politicians by definition celebrities?

morbs i got u this

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VzTlgLTJ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1282476397264601230.jpg

http://deadspin.com/here-are-some-photos-of-chris-christie-playing-softball-1709013820

are those perry's sons? i saw chatter on twitter that he was "flanked by SEALs"

yeah idk i was just assuming

"navy seal twins" have to be the perfect right-wing culture heroes that liberals have never ever heard of

lmao yup

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Luttrell

He began training for the U.S. Navy SEALs at the age of fifteen, with U.S. Army veteran Billy Shelton, who lived near Luttrell's home. He trained every day with his twin brother, Morgan, and others who aspired to join the U.S. Navy and other Special Operations Forces. Shelton trained them using various weight and endurance exercises. After high school, Luttrell attended Sam Houston State University, where he joined the Delta Tau Delta fraternity.[5]

Manchurian SEAL