open or national borders?

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this will never happen even though it's a good idea because left-wing people in rich countries wouldn't allow the strain it would put on domestic welfare states (basically making them unaffordable) and right-wing people already hate the sliver of immigrants they've already let in for taking their jobs or whatever. props to the libertarians who keep pushing it though.

flopson, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...
five months pass...

even sweden!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/05/world/europe/sweden-denmark-border-check-migrants.html

is there no country on earth fully committed to the open borders ideal?

Mordy, Monday, 4 January 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

oh god those sanders quotes :-(

flopson, Monday, 4 January 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link

that kind of thinking is a bit part of what has made me disillusioned with The Left in the past year or so. economics aside (large credible empirical literature showing immigration is good for everyone), it's not even morally coherent coming from the very people who purport to care the most about the poor! bernie's position is basically "i care about poor people, but only the ones who will get me elected" which is cynical but understandable; he's a politician, he only gets the job if he gets elected. but that kind of thinking, that we are playing some zero-sum game against poor people in the rest of the world, is depressingly common among people who don't even have skin in the game.

flopson, Monday, 4 January 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so does schengen survive 2016?

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Deporter-in-Chief Obama back at it

The Obama administration is planning another series of raids that would lead to the deportation of Central American mothers and children found to have entered the country illegally, the Department of Homeland Security said Thursday.

The news drew protests from several members of Congress and both Democratic presidential candidates.

The raids will target adults and children who crossed the border illegally after Jan. 1, 2014, a population of immigrants that the Obama administration has identified as priorities for deportation, according to Homeland Security spokeswoman Marsha Catron.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-immigration-raids-20160512-snap-story.html

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:50 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

are we talking about this beinart article elsewhere? feel like it would be controversial in these parts:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

Mordy, Friday, 23 June 2017 03:58 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/caplannaik.pdf

Mordy, Sunday, 22 December 2019 03:06 (four years ago) link

libertarians say the darnedest things

L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 22 December 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link

Historically, arbitrary lines permitting order under Westphalian sovereignty. In the near future, circuit breakers against domino-like civil collapse. If progressives don't enforce them, fascists will.

raisin d'etre (Sanpaku), Sunday, 22 December 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

Should be: If progressives don't enforce them with humanity, fascists will without.

raisin d'etre (Sanpaku), Sunday, 22 December 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link


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