S/D: Gay movies of arty qualities

I can understand cavils about Almodovar, especially when after 1999 every movie got over the top praise despite being better than every one of his nineties movies.

these days I get excited most about I'm So Excited, which no one much liked.

I can't stand them, personally. I find them shrill and boring.

do gays know you feel this way about them?

VG

Bad Education, Talk to Her, Law of Desire, and Volver may be boring but "shrill"? Come on now.

And/or

I fucking loved I'm So Excited and cannot fathom why it was so critically panned when it was such a great return to form

my man

i'm usually won over by almodovar but i can see how the appeal is limited. kewl that tsai is gay. what time is it there? and goodbye, dragon inn are two of my favorite films ever. i would take him, joe and fassbinder in a pinch and be ok with leaving the rest of the top ten, or whatever. mainly i just want to see more tsai films, and the new joe film.

on balance, liked more gay directors in the closet

"Masc only, plz."

masked

cf Adam Brody Damsels speech

Mouthing the words of a closeted man.

sez you!

obv it's not a blanket statement, but Gregg Araki is living with a woman now, Christopher Munch has vanished, and X Dolan is kind of an idiot.

better dolan than nolan

but his hair, his hair!

There is nothing more to say. You're all insufferable clods.

do you care about Gael Garcia Bernal in wet briefs?

The recent-ish, Armond White-approved Last Summer seems to want to be a queer variant on an early David Gordon Green pic--All the Real Boys, perhaps?--but too often confuses adolescent banalities spoken in laconic voiceover for profundity. I like that it isn't about coming out or homophobia, despite its Deep South setting (a copy of Flannery O'Connor on a bookshelf is eager to let you know that the filmmaker has done is homework!), but then again it isn't really about much of anything else, either.

anyone familiar w/ video artist Vika Kirchenbauer?

http://onlocation.dirtylooksnyc.org/nyc-oct-4

i caught lan yu and thought it was okay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lan_Yu_(film)

take this with a grain of salt though its coming from a straight

Jack Smith's Normal Love is playing downtown tonight... YT version is unwatchably poor quality, but you can get an idea of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNI9OgICJHk

so there's this 'collective' of queerish/pansexual American-European filmmakers who are getting screened in NY this week... Fort Buchanan is pretty good/wack/like a Fassbinder-meets-Lifetime soap; with Palaces of Pity it might help to know more Portuguese history than I do. A History of Mutual Respect is the artiest "bro" satire you may ever see...

https://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-friends-with-benefits

http://www.filmcomment.com/article/gabriel-abrantes-daniel-schmidt-benjamin-crotty-alexander-carver/

strangely missing from thread: Joao Pedro Rodrigues. Along with Guiraudie's new one, seeing JPR's The Ornithologist at NYFF tonight. Strand has snapped it up.

http://variety.com/2016/film/global/joao-rodrigues-the-orinthologist-strand-releasing-1201883663/

Andre Téchiné's Being 17 was overwhelming.

I liked it as well, though perhaps not as much as you. Found it good, but rather conventionally made.

I've seen two other arty gay films. Alain Guiraudie's followup to Stranger by the Lake, Staying Vertical, is unfortunately a big disappointment in my view. Luckily Joao Pedro Rodrigues' The Ornithologist is everything Staying Vertical should have been, a mishmash of landscapes, myths, times, and places, with identity a big factor, and a lovely sex scene on a sunny beach.

Lionel Soukaz in NYC

http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/series/46748

Being 17 on DVD/streaming at Netflix.

^I liked it fine, probably AT's best since The Witnesses, but didn't love it. The dad in the military, we all saw where that was going from the first, yes? It wasn't at all obvious, or even plausible, that Thomas reciprocated Damien's feelings til well into the last act though.

Excellent performance by Corentin Fila as Thomas, also strikingly beautiful. (The kid who played Damien was jug-eared enough to be little Serge Gainsbourg in that biopic a few years back.)

Damien had been eyeing him Thomas since the first frame; it's hard to separate condescension from desire, especially at that age. Also, living in close quarters exacerbated it, which is why I don't think their attraction is a particularly deep one. Techine is subtle enough to suggest the relationship, born of conflict and breathing the same air, will dissolve soon enough. With his usual deft, glancing touch, he flirts with the idea that Thomas could have easily gone for Damien's mother had she confessed and tried to kiss him like Damien did.

As for the dad? He was marked for death like partners in cop films.

him

I've got a list

misread thread title as 'gay movies of anitiquity'

i.e. The Women

I don't get My Own Private Idaho. There, I said it.

Falling houses, Henry IV Pt 1, River Phoenix, Udo Kier lip syncing -- what's not to get?

great list, but you wrote "rainer maria fassbinder" twice

where is Fight Club?

I'm assuming the reason it isn't on there is because it sucks.

musta been suckin' good every time I saw it

anyone seen 4 Days in France?

When it opened here a few months ago, the reviews were sufficiently lukewarm that I decided to wait.

I assumed this thread revive was for Guadagino's Dolan quote

Which was absolutely delicious.

like a peach is delicious?

here's the quote for those who don't know:

I’m a bit suspicious of Xavier Dolan, for one reason: he does too many films. I do not believe in hyperactivity. I like the idea of reflection,” he told Purple Diary. “I think ‘Mommy,’ for instance, is a typical post-Almodóvar female drama, shot in the clever, intelligent way of today, with an awareness of the iPhone generation. Is it a gimmick having to do with the tool? Or does the tool affect the way the images are put together? I was very upset when ‘Mommy’ — what a title! — was awarded the Jury Prize in Cannes. It basically contradicted Godard’s lesson that such an orgy of images is the end of language and then was rewarded for being an orgy of images.”

Apparently the quote(s) are 2 years old? xp

https://theplaylist.net/luca-guadagnino-xavier-dolan-20171004/

Both of them have made some very annoying films, tho LG nothing as bad as Mommy.

(I should say, the last 2 Guadagnino films, as that's all i've seen, til 6pm)

and Guadagnino hasn't made a film as good as Heartbeats.