Frederik B can you not
― 龜, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link
yeah i thought she was killing herself too which wldve been p cool but then she just took the antidote and walked away all smug smh
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
Do the Lannisters have literally no control over the populace of Kings Landing now? I'm still confused as to how all that stuff managed to happen without the king's guard rushing in and doing something about it, during Joffrey's reign, no one would have stepped out of line at al
There was a scene in S2 maybe when Joffrey and Sansa got stuck in the middle of King's Landing and the population went mental at them, the Hound and Tyrion had to bundle Sansa out of there. So I think they've always been basically hated by the proles.
Also Cersei built the religious fanatics up in the first place order to compensate for a general lack of allies/muscle elsewhere, so maybe the King's Guard isn't what it used to be.
But they've got a resurrected killing machine now so she should be able to regain that iron fist pretty easily.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link
King's Guard is just like 7 dudes isn't it
― dan m, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
well 6 now post-Ser Merren
one of them is a big frankenstein tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:15 (nine years ago) link
x-posts: I'm invested in the show because I'm invested in the books. I like the world and I want to know where the story is going. In a year, the show will be spoiling everything that is happening in the story, and it will do so incompetently, and with extra added misogony. Yay.
In that way, this isn't like all other tv-shows, which I just don't watch when they go bad.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link
u love it u love it so much u almost cant stand it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link
oh Fred just admit it
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
more info than you needed: http://time.com/3921066/cersei-game-of-thrones-history/
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link
x-posts: And I'm sorry, I'll leave you to it, but I can't take all the speculation over the nonsense in Dorne and Winterfell seriously. Trying to figure out motive and what will happen next. Well, the showrunners aren't competent enough to have thought it through! It's like watching people watching a monkey throw paint on a canvas, and discussing who it's supposed to look like.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
if even DJP didn't get my joek I am going to cry
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
i got it & i loled :)
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link
*whew*
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
was it an annoying joke
― Mordy, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
been caught stealing an annoying joke once
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link
Can we talk about how disturbingly exhilarating it was to see Arya kill Meryn Trant?
― Falconetti Pot (Leee), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
^^^
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
I did appreciate how they added the reminder of how bad he was first. Because without those extra two minutes of the known child raper beating little girls with a stick I would have been all, jeez, Arya, chill out a little with the eye-gouging.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link
It was pretty good. For a minute I thought the other girl who works for many faced God was there and she would kill him. On the other hand I don't know why Arya revealed her identity after he had been stabbed so many times. It didn't seem like a person in that condition could understand anything being said.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
shes still an assassin IN TRAINING remember!
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
magic is p much by definition unexplained. idk what concept of magic as a distinct force anyone in this world cld have given they clearly have no recognisable conception of science (or mb any convincing explanation of the cosmos). how/why wld they differentiate certain animals as magic or w/e
― ogmor, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
also if we're waiting for receipts is the lannister daughter DEFINITELY dead bc i'm going to remain sceptical
― ogmor, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
rankings in order of least to most likely dead
1. jon snow2. stannis3. myrcella
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link
On the other hand I don't know why Arya revealed her identity after he had been stabbed so many times. It didn't seem like a person in that condition could understand anything being said.
I think she needs the ritual to make her murders OK -- we saw a similar thing when she killed Polliver(?) by repeating what he said about Lommy -- so that it was as much for her own sake as it was to agonize Trant.
― Falconetti Pot (Leee), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link
Well, now that The Mountain is alive again, Qyburn might be looking for a new project
xxp
― silverfish, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
Also, there was a brief discussion on characters with (seemingly) impervious plot armor like Tyrion and Dany -- but I don't think anyone mentioned our favorite little girl psychopath assassin. Didn't GRRM say that Arya was his wife's favorite character, meaning that there's no way she's going to die any time soon?
― Falconetti Pot (Leee), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
There is an established system of science (Maesters/Old Town), it just happens to be at odds with most notions of magic. I presume it will be quite a significant theme in Sam's story going forward.
xps
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link
Didn't GRRM say that Arya was his wife's favorite character, meaning that there's no way she's going to die any time soon?
is she the only remaining female character that hasn't been raped, besides Brienne(?)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
do you really want a list
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
i can't tell if you're joking but margaery, melisandre, ellaria, off the top of my head...
― Mordy, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
I imagine the maesters are in the books more but there's been v little hint of what they get up to in the show so far besides act like regular medieval scholars
― ogmor, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I think most exposition on that front began and ended with Pycelle (treating Robert/John Arryn. Boasting about his role in the birth of Cersei's children. Aemon was too old to get up to much
Medieval scholasticism is definitely the model he uses but the role of maesters is supposed to be far more practical than that would suggest.
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
Maesters practice
http://circleofeducation.com/site/assets/uploads/14-The-Magic-of-LearningLMSZ.jpg
― Evan, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
shakey's had a list of fantasy rapes going for at least a decade iirc
― nomar, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
were the sand snakes actually awesome in the novels? Before this season started it seemed like lots of people were excited abt their presence.
― nomar, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link
They really didn't seem so to me at the time and I wasn't going to go back and read all that shit again, so I just assumed they were and I'd skimmed it.
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
get a new joke
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
you're criticizing someone else for monotony?
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link
re: Sand Snakes GRRM was going for a sexy Deadly Vipers Assassination Squad only with 8 ladies, and so yes, that aspect got people excited.
― Falconetti Pot (Leee), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
they were okay, and at least not risible
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
i get annoyed whenever the sand worms are on screen, so lame
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
they are lame, but idk, i am not very upset when they are on my screen.
― circa1916, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
I quite like seeing the recap (on Thronecast) of Melisandre meeting Arya and correctly predicting her future. I never would have remembered that.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
Correctly but in very vague terms.
it makes sense if they're more like functionaries or mandarins. for a show about power there's v little sense of the political landscape. there's feudalism with no real sense of class, kings with no talk of divine right/mandate of heaven (stannis's awareness of his destiny feels v personal). idk who is supposed to be actually at work enacting their small council biz & running a credit-based economy but w/e. varys is obv the best but it just feels like grrm was feeling the idea of some eunuch official archetype but rather than being a member of whole caste he just makes him a guy with a crazy back story he could write later
― ogmor, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
Always worthwhile (though rife with spoilers): http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/ask-the-maester-jon-snow-season-finale/
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
Good thing that the mutineers stabbed Jon in the gut and not his beautiful face.
― Falconetti Pot (Leee), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
they shouldve all made out with him as he lay dying
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
everybody betray me :(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DxWkfJ4uvV0/hqdefault.jpg
― kinder, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link