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these fuckin guys

j., Monday, 3 August 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

I voted non-sandwich despite having to acknowledge that the pro-sandwich people have logic on their side, guess it's kind of a heart/mind dichotomy.

is-sandwich leaners are looking at this as question of scientific taxonomy, as if these were natural kinds; is-not-sandwich leaners see these as distinct cultural kinds, looking at this question more ethnographically & nominalistically

drash, Monday, 3 August 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

If you don't even need two pieces of bread, who says you need bread at all?

And now, at long last, we arrive at the sorites paradox (though in truth we were there all along).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox

Most reasonable people will agree that one grain of sand is definitely not a heap of sand. Also, most reasonable people will agree that a million grains of sand definitely constitutes a heap of sand.

So at what point does it become a heap of sand? Two grains? Three? A hundred grains? If so, then why 100 grains and not 99 grains?

Similarly, if we say a sandwich requires two pieces of bread, why two and not one? Or three?

Ye Mad Puffin, Monday, 3 August 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link

drash otm on the competing frames of reference.

I'm still on team "degrees of sandwich"

Ye Mad Puffin, Monday, 3 August 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link

I take the heap of sand with a pinch of salt.

rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Monday, 3 August 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

"Perhaps it will be treaties that will come to be known for eternity as Sandwiches. Great leaders of countries will say, "Let us enact a Sandwich, that our two nations shall cease to be enemies. By the terms of this most sacred and honorable Sandwich, let us have peace in our great lands." That would be a most fitting tribute to me, considering my tireless contributions to the treaty of Aix-la-Chapelle in 1748."

Ye Mad Puffin, Monday, 3 August 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

hey guys, i'm having a barbeque lunch meal on Tuesday. hamburger sandwiches and hot dog sandwiches will be served by humans, but please bring a side food dish. you'll probably want to wear short pants because it's supposed to be a high-temperature day.

-unabomber

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 August 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

enjoying Ye Mad Puffin posting itt because his name has been making me think of

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/C5E602/two-tins-of-ye-olde-oak-american-style-hot-dogs-sausages-in-brine-C5E602.jpg

Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Monday, 3 August 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

Like climate change denial

― j.enjoyhotdogs (wins), Monday, August 3, 2015 11:53 AM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol :(

can't believe there are believe on this thread who haven't had a torta. i had two this weekend (which is atypical but welcome. although i have to be careful with some of the giant taqueria versions, because they are huge & bready and i know i'm incapable of saving half for later).

http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/huYxR3suLcBDXRt6DWERyQ/o.jpg

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 3 August 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link

Basically what I'm getting there is that they're a portal into the Sandwich Dimension.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 August 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

so important to brine the hot dogs

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 August 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link

what we talk about when we talk about sandwiches

slugbuggy, Monday, 3 August 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

Similarly, if we say a sandwich requires two pieces of bread, why two and not one? Or three?

― Ye Mad Puffin, Monday, August 3, 2015 1:24 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

3 slices of bread in a club sandwich. one piece of toast between two pieces of untoasted bread is a toast sandwich. and if dagwood bumstead is to be believed, there may very well be no upper limit to the number of pieces of bread allowed to still call it a sandwich (aside from real-world physics and human biology, something DB gets to ignore).

is-sandwich leaners are looking at this as question of scientific taxonomy, as if these were natural kinds; is-not-sandwich leaners see these as distinct cultural kinds, looking at this question more ethnographically & nominalistically

― drash, Monday, August 3, 2015 1:23 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo this is a less a case of scientific/taxonomical vs cultural/ethnographical and more a case of sandwich as transgressive food delivery mechanism vs. tightly-curated finite list of predetermined, vetted creations. the "it's not a sandwich" crowd are like the people who see patrissy (a mix of patron and hennessy) as a "mixed drink" and not a "cocktail." frankly I'd include "wraps" as sandwiches if it didn't seem like everyone pita-industrial complex wasn't on a PR smear mission to ensure everyone believes it is superior to (and therefore not) a sandwich.

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 3 August 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

btw patrissy is real, someone told me about it on saturday. nas's brother drinks it.

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 3 August 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link

of course he does

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 3 August 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link

Will M. makes good points. Since you mentioned drinks, this can be usefully compared with martini purism. Lots of things can be put in a martini glass and given a name that ends with "ini."

There will always be people who say that a martini can only be gin, vermouth, and an optional olive. Vodka makes it a non-martini automatically (to those holding this purist view), and if you're using a pearl onion you must call it a Gibson BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS CALLED. A vodka-based chocolate-orange-tini can never be a martini (to those holding this purist view).

I personally don't care enough to get up in arms about it but I am amused that there are those for whom "vodka martini" constitute fightin' words.

Ye Mad Puffin, Monday, 3 August 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link

imo this is a less a case of scientific/taxonomical vs cultural/ethnographical and more a case of sandwich as transgressive food delivery mechanism vs. tightly-curated finite list of predetermined, vetted creations

dying

marcos, Monday, 3 August 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

one piece of toast between two pieces of untoasted bread is a toast sandwich.

somehow I missed this when I read Will's post before and it's genius

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 3 August 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

That's some bread connoisseur work, at that point you're not even in it for the carb kick, it's the contrast of the textures.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 August 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

"First you butter the bread, then you butter the toast, then you butter the other bread"
"But-"
"Different butters!"

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 August 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_sandwich

this wikipedia article is 100% gems, i almost want to poll that article's best parts

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 3 August 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

white bread (slightly heated)
salt & pepper
olive oil
white bread (toasted)
olive oil
salt & pepper
white bread (slightly heated)

― stoomcursus rockisme (unregistered), Thursday, 2 July 2015 02:04 (1 month ago)

stoomcursus rockisme (unregistered), Monday, 3 August 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link

^this is still one of my most satisfied 'wiching experiences (although properly speaking, the items being 'sandwiched' were the oil and the seasonings rather than the toast)

stoomcursus rockisme (unregistered), Monday, 3 August 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

*most satisfying

stoomcursus rockisme (unregistered), Monday, 3 August 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

"This is the culinary equivalent of a Rothko painting. Or it's like a sandwich by Marcel Duchamp! It questions the essence of sandwich and language both!"[11]

stoomcursus rockisme (unregistered), Monday, 3 August 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

Okay, I was not expecting that.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 August 2015 22:10 (eight years ago) link

patrissy :-(

killfile with that .exe, you goon (wins), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link

two perfectly drinkable drinks in combat, why

killfile with that .exe, you goon (wins), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link

is an empanada or calzone or pasty a sandwich?

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

pastry isn't bread, nice try tho

killfile with that .exe, you goon (wins), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link

1) no pastry in the first two at least
2) what madness, "pastry is not bread", good grief

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link

is a gordita or an arepa or a pupusa a sandwich?

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:22 (eight years ago) link

is ravioli a sandwich

killfile with that .exe, you goon (wins), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

you're a sandwich

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 August 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link

not the 1st time I've been subposted

killfile with that .exe, you goon (wins), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

stuffed pastries will maybe be sandwiches one day, but today is not that day. sorry empanadas, calzones, pasties, gorditas, arepas, and pupusas (i am assuming these are all stuffed breads/pastries -- not easy to find all of these in my city). ravioli is one step further removed.

pastry can be the bread of a sandwich though, ham and cheese on a croissant is A) delicious B) pastry-based C) sandwich.

as the self-appointed ILX Dean of Sandwiches I thank you all for your sandwich questions. I shall eat one sandwich deemed a "hot dog" in each of your honours.

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

war criminal

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

you can't self-appoint yourself to a position of power without breaking a few eggs

and before you ask, an omelet is not a sandwich

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

Gonna have some taco sandwiches for dinner tonight, can't wait.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

Chicken pot pie - sandwich? It is stuff surrounded by a breadlike product.

For that matter, so is an apple pie.

Ye Mad Puffin, Monday, 3 August 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

pies are cousins of sandwiches. and tacos where is that even coming from

your logic traps do not make hot dogs any less a-sandwich

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link

you're a cousin of a sandwich

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link

i do have a cousin named reuben so joke's on you

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

it's a clever pun you dumb idiots!

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link

http://www.tmfile.com/mark/?q=783764574

drash, Monday, 3 August 2015 22:54 (eight years ago) link

because of the sandwiches which are there

killfile with that .exe, you goon (wins), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

i would like to draw everyone's attention to this sandwich called a "mother-in-law"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother-in-law_(tamale)

i found this while researching sandwiches. after all a leader should be knowledgeable of that in his purview

Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 3 August 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

your mother-in-law's a sandwich

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 August 2015 22:59 (eight years ago) link


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