Quentin Tarantino's "The Hateful Eight"

I did not know Goggins was in this. I always like Tarantino's stuff so my interest was already piqued but now it's at full attention.

his movies look too fussy, now, like glossy & choreographed to death & buffed

I did not know Goggins was in this. I always like Tarantino's stuff so my interest was already piqued but now it's at full attention.

― Gristly Bear (Old Lunch),

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corpsey xp

this thread has encouraged me to watch... Justified

think his movies look much better than they used to, as his scripts have declined he's become a much better more interesting director visually imo

this thread has encouraged me to watch... Justified

Can't say I expected this twist in the story. (don't go past season 2, you've got enough to kvetch about)

as his scripts have declined

Inglorious Basterds is his best by a wide margin imo, but Django is also his worst by a wide margin so this one will, for me at least, indicate whether there's a pattern emerging

I cant believe it took this many years for jennifer jason leigh to be in a tarantino movie. cant think of a more natural actor/director pairing

Sligthly saddened by a '70mm' film being digitally color graded so boringly. What's the point?

prince charles cinema in london will be showing it on 70mm - i think QT is the reason they recently got a 70mm projector installed (friends in high places etc etc)

i watched basterds recently in one of those nothing to watch pits of despair and i really thought it was brilliant

trailer looks much better if you *dont* watch it in HD

I'm sure it's just the trailer but shooting 2.76:1 for what looks like a bottle movie is a weird waste of a format but, like i said it's probably the trailer so...

"I probably feel about this the way most people feel about Star Wars - excited but also slightly trepidatious

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

^^that

wish he would get someone else to write for him. or adapt more books. this looks like it will probably be another fun but ultimately cine-incestuous project for him. shame as hes an amazing director.

if the final script is basically similar to the one that leaked, I think it'll be pretty great, the juxtaposition of claustrophobia amid colossal scope (in both a literal and figurative sense) is really fascinating

that said one of the reasons why I thought that script was fascinating was the ending, and that's the aspect most likely to change.

i will be v disappointed if tarantino doesn't manage to work in someone saying "you've got to be fucking kidding me"

A friend who works at an equipment rental place just posted this on his Facebook timeline

"This is what happens when Tarantino rents gear from work."

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New interview:
http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/quentin-tarantino-lane-brown-in-conversation.html

That’s going to make this movie feel contemporary. Everybody’s talking about race right now.

I know. I’m very excited by that.

Excited?

Finally, the issue of white supremacy is being talked about and dealt with. And it’s what the movie’s about.

Have you seen True Detective?

I tried to watch the first episode of season one, and I didn’t get into it at all. I thought it was really boring. And season two looks awful. Just the trailer — all these handsome actors trying to not be handsome and walking around looking like the weight of the world is on their shoulders. It’s so serious, and they’re so tortured, trying to look miserable with their mustaches and grungy clothes.

Now, the HBO show I loved was Aaron Sorkin’s The Newsroom. That was the only show that I literally watched three times. I would watch it at seven o’clock on Sunday, when the new one would come on. Then after it was over, I’d watch it all over again. Then I would usually end up watching it once during the week, just so I could listen to the dialogue one more time.

I think people will be surprised to hear that. The Newsroom’s reviews were all over the place. Sorkin even apologized for some of it.

Who the fuck reads TV reviews? Jesus fucking Christ. TV critics review the pilot. Pilots of shows suck. Why would it be surprising that I like the best dialogue writer in the business?

-_-

honestly that's not surprising, given tarantino's predilections, but lollllll

Who the fuck reads TV reviews? Jesus fucking Christ. TV critics review the pilot. Pilots of shows suck.

fair point tho

writer of cokey dialogue loves cokey dialogue: news at 11

TV critics review the pilot. Pilots of shows suck.

Have you seen True Detective?
I tried to watch the first episode of season one, and I didn’t get into it at all.

writer of cokey dialogue loves cokey dialogue: news at 11
--Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl)

lol otm

xp it's kind of funny he says/thinks that (granted, he may be trolling to a certain degree) bc the only time critics just get a show's pilot is if the network is super unsure about it or if it's mad men. iirc the usual critic sample is between 3 and 6 episodes.

"Finally, the issue of white supremacy is being talked about and dealt with. And it’s what the movie’s about."

does anyone really want to hear QT of all people riff on this subject?

Most tv criticicism at this point is concurrent recaps of every episode. Several seasons of The Newsroom only got pillaged towards the end.

"So what is Hateful Eight saying about the 2010s?

I’m not trying to make Hateful Eight contemporary in any way, shape, or form. I’m just trying to tell my story. It gets to be a little too much when you try to do that, when you try to make a hippie Western or try to make a counterculture Western."

thats what will always make QT a dissappointment. him and PTA in a way. they have no interest in saying anything about the time we live in. maybe thats good in one sense. but its also just a bit empty, leading to movies that are great but dont resonate much beyond their own movie worlds.

other things i learned from that interview - QT's taste in modern movies and directors sucks. who is going to be watching american hustle in 20 years when they could be watching something from the actual 70s? but he is right about it follows at least.

Anything Else is one of his favorite films. So, y'know.

i suppose he did like afternoon delight at least (not that ive seen it) so at least his taste in modern films isnt totally confined to his director friends.

lol@at his comments about all those 'arty' cate blanchett films

him and PTA in a way. they have no interest in saying anything about the time we live in.

i think PTA absolutely does, but he has little to no interest in saying it in any direct fashion through stories taking place in the present time, other than in magnolia. but there will be blood and the master are both thematically relevant to aspects of modern society/politics/etc, especially the former

tarantino...not so much. (although i'm sure someone could and will make a case for the original hateful eight script being an on-the-nose allegory for modern ideological/racial conflict; i'm not entirely sure such a reading would hold up)

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Is he friends with Woody? Even so, that doesn't even come close to justifying Anything Else as the best WA film since 1992, let alone one of the very best films in that time frame.

QT also an avowed fan of the Richard Gere remake of Breathless, iirc.

otm, also PTA's body of work is basically a continuous exploration of Southern California history. Even though it's not capital-T topical, on some level his films almost always tend to trace how we ended up where we are.

xp

I haven't seen Breathless 2.0 in 30+ years, but it WAS made by a talented guy, Jim McBride, so it must've had good stuff in it. Probably more discerning ppl would pick David Holzman's Diary tho.

I think the ending of Inherent Vice addresses the present by implication.

thats what will always make QT a dissappointment. him and PTA in a way. they have no interest in saying anything about the time we live in. maybe thats good in one sense. but its also just a bit empty, leading to movies that are great but dont resonate much beyond their own movie worlds.

― StillAdvance, 24. august 2015 12:48 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That was my problem with QT for a long time, but I think it's changed over the last decade. Inglourious Basterds is especially good at this, but Death Proof and Django Unchained tries this as well.

PTA definitely seems to want to do this, I think, I just don't think he has something very smart to say. Punch-Drunk Love still his best.

Be careful what you wish for, StillAdvance. I personally don't need to see Tarantino's Ferguson movie.

at the risk of being lazy (ive prob said this before somewhere), i think PTA doesnt have much to say that hasnt been said by earlier filmmakers he looks up to (who *did* say things about the eras they lived in). he might be looking at the past, in a way that allows you to trace LA or US history, but i think any historical movie would do this in some fashion, thats yknow, the point of looking at history! i dont expect him to come out with some franzen-esque script addressing Big Modern Issues (though yknow, WHY NOT?), but its just easier for someone like him and QT to go digging in the past than face the present.

idk man no one should address things the way franzen does, ever in the history of ever lol

i like franzen, though i hope the new one doesnt address his latest big issues like freedom did, where it was more about him addressing the issue than how he did do

*did so

I think both QT and PTA (love 'em or hate 'em) are very much about the present. I don't really understand the complaint here unless the what you are looking for very "on the nose" kind of filmmaking in which case yeah I guess they're maybe not your bag.

I think Tarantino's point in the interview is that movies (and Westerns especially) always end up being about the era in which they're made, and Hateful Eight will too. Just that he thinks self-defeating and unnecessary to try to make a Western that "reflects the era."

Is modern life not that inspiring?
No, it's not that. I would really like to do a movie set in the present. It just keeps working out that that’s not the case. I do feel that I need to do at least one more Western — I think you need to make three Westerns to call yourself a Western director. But it would be really great to do another movie where a TV’s on in the background, or somebody turns on a radio, and then I can score my scene that way, and then turn it off when I want the music to stop. Or they get into a car and drive for a while, and I can actually do a little montage of them driving to some cool song. That would be really great. I haven’t done that in a long time, and I’m really looking forward to it.

http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/how-quentin-tarantino-would-fix-it-follows.html

"In Django Unchained, the villains were slave owners. In Inglourious Basterds, they were Nazis. If you were to make a similar movie in 2015, who would the bad guys be?

Those two movies are very specific and kind of stand alone from the rest of my filmography, so that question is jumping from the assumption that it would be something cut into that mode. I think it would be something closer to either Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, or Pulp Fiction, or something even realer than that. "

he should have done a first nations/native american revenge movie.

though the lack of film industry interest in native american issues/history is pretty pathetic so i wouldnt bet on it.

Would love to see Tarantino's version of the Squanto story

Double crossing, slave trading, lots of blood

reading about the disney version, it just sounds like a 'good indian' story, about an indian who helps the settlers, until the ending at least. is wikipedia missing the righteous-vengeance part of the story?