― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 February 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 13 February 2006 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 13 February 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link
It's the thought of having my life cut short that seems so appalling and unfair. Also the fact that it would probably be horribly painful and frightening in the last moments. I often read about people who die in horrible ways and it just seems so awful to go out like that - in a panic of uncomprehending fear, with the survival instinct pointlessly flooding me with adrenaline, perhaps with images of loved ones I'll never see again flashing through my brain. I guess that is a grim thought.
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 13 February 2006 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link
As far as I'm aware, "trying to get away from worldly sensations" is pretty much the opposite of what meditation aims to do.
― JimD (JimD), Monday, 13 February 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Monday, 13 February 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
way to dismiss something out of hand.
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 February 2006 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Shakey, I really like the concept that we go back to whence we came. It has a calming effect without having to resort to the supernatural (which I'm inept at dealing with).
x-posts
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Monday, 13 February 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I've talked to people who've done it, and it really doesn't sound like something I could psyche myself into, no offense.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Personally, I too find it hard to get into meditation, simply b/c I'm somewhat hyperactive and find that in my free time I want to expend energy rather than calm myself down. But that's just my inclination, not necessarily reflective of my opinion on meditation or indicative of how beneficial it might be for me (it might be just what the doctor ordered, you know?).
If that makes sense. I probably should shut up now.
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abu Hamster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― JimD (JimD), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abu Hamster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abu Hamster (noodle vague), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link
And I've no idea where the shark comes into it.
As for our milages varying...yep, perhaps. I don't know exactly how I came to be unafraid, it wasn't a switch that flicked off, it was just a gradual thing I guess.
― JimD (JimD), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 03:13 (eighteen years ago) link
(by which I mean...the physical impossibility of [a concept] in [a mind]...well, what's that mean? do concepts ever physically exist in minds anyway? Does he even know what he's getting at?)
― JimD (JimD), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link
if you were certain that when you go to sleep tonight you would not wake up in the morning, you wouldn't feel any anxiety?
― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 04:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, I was thinking about this. I think maybe if and when I have children, or other dependents, it might get scary again. But that would be for completely different reasons to those I previously had for finding it scary.
Just a Supermarket Sweep style, got-to-fit-as-much-fun-into-the-next-24-hours-as-possible anxiety, I think. Apart from that I reckon I'd be ok.
― JimD (JimD), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― ALAN FROG (Mingus Dew), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link
"The Methuselah Mouse Prize is the premiere effort of The Methuselah Foundation™; a scientific competition designed to draw attention to the ability of new technologies to slow and even reverse the damage of the aging process, preserving health and wisdom in a world that sorely needs it."
I bet it was from Paul G. Allen. the mprize fund is now at 3 millions.
― S. (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― stu (stu), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 07:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Let us disarm him of his novelty and strangeness, let us converse and be familiar with him, and have nothing so frequent in our thoughts as death. Upon all occasions represent him to our imagination in his every shape; at the stumbling of a horse, at the falling of a tile, at the least prick with a pin, let us presently consider, and say to ourselves, "Well, and what if it had been death itself?" and, thereupon, let us encourage and fortify ourselves. Let us evermore, amidst our jollity and feasting, set the remembrance of our frail condition before our eyes, never suffering ourselves to be so far transported with our delights, but that we have some intervals of reflecting upon, and considering how many several ways this jollity of ours tends to death, and with how many dangers it threatens it.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 07:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Where death waits for us is uncertain; let us look for him everywhere. The premeditation of death is the premeditation of liberty; he who has learned to die, has unlearned to serve. There is nothing of evil in life, for him who rightly comprehends that the privation of life is no evil: to know how to die, delivers us from all subjection and constraint.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 07:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 07:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Avoidance = the wellspring of anxiety and depression.
― Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Someone hooked up!
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm not sure. in a way it's incredibly comforting. "it is possible to die"
― Surmounter, Sunday, 30 November 2008 07:09 (fifteen years ago) link
The thing that bothers me the most is that my family will have to go through all my stuff once I'm gone. It ain't gonna be pretty.
God, I need to straighten this place up big time.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 30 November 2008 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link
You know I'm born to lose, and gambling's for fools. But that's the way I like it baby, I don't wanna live for ever.
― go read a blog you illiterate son of a bitch (internet person), Sunday, 30 November 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Lemmy said in an interview that he wanted to die "the year before forever, so as to avoid the rush"
― snoball, Sunday, 30 November 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Dread, not fear.
― M.V., Sunday, 30 November 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:46 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
:(
― I love rainbow cookies (surm), Thursday, 30 July 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
well, i'm jus gonna be chillin with jesus, sounds pretty good to me.
― max arrrrrgh, Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't fear death so much as the bafflement that I have no way to ever know what comes after it. I don't think this fear is entirely irrational.
― a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, I fear death and find it shocking and grim and unknowable, and more more moreso with the question of an afterlife.
― a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Thursday, 30 July 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Noodle is otm upthread....I can't comprehend anyone who is glib about it.
I was reading this book by Ram Dass the other and I was interested to see that here is a guy who's been through the full religious thing, believes in hinduism, done a lot of meditation etc...and he tells this story of how he came back to the US from India and took some acid in a motel to see where his head was at. Suddenly, the thought hits him 'I am going to die' and he has a full scale panic, and is on the verge of rushing naked out of the motel room to rush to the manager saying 'you gotta help me'. Fortunately, he manages to stops himself by thinking there must be a better way and calms himself down.
All of which ramble is a way of saying, you can think you have your reconciliation with the idea of death nailed down, but it can come back and bite you on the ass.
― Bob Six, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
*the other year
― Bob Six, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I deal, on lots of days, or forget sometimes, which is the same thing. But I can be quite sober in bed at night and that "on the verge of rushing naked around the house saying 'please help me please'" swooshes over me in a big wave. And the projection of it that I get now, the horror of my family's mortality, is much crueller still. And I got to 40 and the dread's gotten more constant, a lot more present, and all the regret and sadness for failure and time passed and irrecoverable. I do believe in "still time to live and still time to do things better" but it's not nearly as strong as the fierce dark fear of nothing forever, coming soon.
― Calamari Merkin (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
fear of death has thus far only gotten at me in an errand-list kind of way, like: I don't want to die, there's a bunch of stuff I haven't finished doing
― nabisco, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
also I don't want to miss anything cool that happens later
― nabisco, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
also what if people talked about me afterward, or something? how embarrassing, you couldn't even reply
― nabisco, Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
"RIP OTM"
― a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link