Go on then, who do you reckon will win? The Labour Leadership contest, that is...

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Liz Kendall finds supporter:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/17/david-miliband-electing-jeremy-corbyn-risks-one-party-tory-state

Miliband in favour of two-party Tory state etc.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 August 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

Weird timing to be backing the 150/1 outsider unless he thinks the leadership contest isn't going to be over when the votes are counted. I'd have thought that whatever marginal influence he has is just going to draw votes away from Burnham and Cooper.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 17 August 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

think we have to assume at this stage that these idiots really believe in the invisible difference of their preferred advocate of neoliberalism

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 August 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link

'draw votes away' doesn't matter that much in the leadership election though - Kendall/Cooper/Burnham/Corbyn and Cooper/Kendall/Burnham/Corbyn are both effective for the ABC crowd.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 August 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

All this talk about offering policies that are 'financially viable' makes me reach for my

https://img1.etsystatic.com/017/0/6337680/il_570xN.498770417_ki4l.jpg

shirt.

Mark G, Monday, 17 August 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

it's like there's a contest to see who can react to corbyn's popularity in the stupidest, most self-defeating way

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

it's like a perfect distillation of the european-wide disconnect between elites and rank-and-file

"no, THIS is what you should think"

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link

'draw votes away' doesn't matter that much in the leadership election though - Kendall/Cooper/Burnham/Corbyn and Cooper/Kendall/Burnham/Corbyn are both effective for the ABC crowd.

This is true to some extent but if the best case ABC scenario is Corbyn winning around 45% of the vote and losing on second preferences, for the next leader to have any credibility I think they need to be pulling in something around the upper twenties. I'd have thought picking one of the candidates to rally behind would make more sense than a doomed attempt to make Kendall happen even if it didn't materially affect the outcome when the preferences are tallied.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 17 August 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

for the next leader to have any credibility

They won't.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 August 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

Yes, I almost typed "(lol)" after writing that but I guess they have to try. The party is probably doomed either way.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 17 August 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

I just had a phone call from a man working for Yvette Cooper's campaign asking me if I'd decided who to vote for yet, I told him that I'd already voted and put Corbyn as my first preference. then he asked me who I'd put as my second preference and I told him that I voted for Cooper as my second preference, and he thanked me for the second preference, but I kind of got the impression he thought I was just pretending to have put Cooper as my second preference because I was embarrassed? I was telling the truth, though. anyway, the whole thing was awkward.

authentic plastic rat (soref), Monday, 17 August 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link

I was kind of worried he was going to shout at me when I told him that I'd voted for Corbyn

authentic plastic rat (soref), Monday, 17 August 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

four teenagers on channel 4 news right now, each repping for one of the leadership contenders, Kendall supporter giving some amazing side-eye to the Corbyn supporter

authentic plastic rat (soref), Monday, 17 August 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

was funny to each of them trotting out their candidate's sound bites

cathy newman is terrible

conrad, Monday, 17 August 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link

Channel 4 News is terrible.

Stupidityness (Tom D.), Monday, 17 August 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/gordon-brown-and-power.html

decent piece that identifies some of the glaring deficiencies in new Labour thinking

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 August 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link

was funny to each of them trotting out their candidate's sound bites

I know, right? I think the Cooper supporter actually did the 'no good Keynesian would ever call for it' bit from her speech the other day word-for-word

authentic plastic rat (soref), Monday, 17 August 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

xp also a reminder that, for all that Blair is the greater evil, it was Brown that came up with "hard working families" as the only unit of political merit.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 August 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

'British jobs for British workers', another of his greatest hits.

Stupidityness (Tom D.), Monday, 17 August 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

He was also responsible for the "Hits Greatest Stiffs" album title. True, dat..

Mark G, Monday, 17 August 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link

that sort of comic instinct deserves a place in the spotlight

the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 07:42 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZsYvkTw4Rg

stet, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link

work to be proud of, newsnight

Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

Terry Dicks may have been an awful racist bigot, but at least he wouldn't have put up with crap like this:

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/tory-mp-shelbrooke-vows-to-wear-onesie-for-commons-vote-1-6373367

authentic plastic rat (soref), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

jeez, didn't realise that Dicks is still alive

authentic plastic rat (soref), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

Purges be happenin'..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 09:53 (eight years ago) link

Show trials next.

Stupidityness (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 August 2015 09:54 (eight years ago) link

Peter Mandelson as judge and executioner.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 10:02 (eight years ago) link

Aug 21 1940 - Russian revolutionary Leon Trotsky fatally wounded by Stalinist agent in exile.

Never forget..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 10:07 (eight years ago) link

Owen Hatherley was rejected as an entryist despite, in his words, never having "been a member of anything other than the NUJ and Crohn's & Colitis Society".

They also managed to block someone who stood for election for them in May.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:08 (eight years ago) link

maybe i'm secluded in my world of entryist people but it does seem that naebdy's getting in

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link

That stable door is well bolted, for sure.

Stupidityness (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:17 (eight years ago) link

Any journalists looking into rejections, does anyone know?

emil.y, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link

Some guy on twitter is building a DB to get some numbers etc.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link

Owen Jones & George Monbiot seem to be involved with that too, at least in terms of publicising it.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link

Yeah looks like it will be reported on..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:02 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, just spotted mention of the guy with the database. Going to pass this info on.

emil.y, Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:03 (eight years ago) link

http://labouroflatte.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/purge-away.html

http://i.imgur.com/JRDwEap.jpg?1

You too could be called a star by the compliance unit.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 August 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

pay £3 for full stasi privileges

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 20 August 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

they're handling this more clumsily than metallica faced illegal downloading

Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Thursday, 20 August 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

Blair-Iraq levels of mishandling imo

nashwan, Thursday, 20 August 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

wau

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 August 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

the lack of foresight to allow just anyone to put in a few quid online and then be able to vote in the leadership election, compounded by the heavy-handed and incompetent policing of said campaign really beggars belief.

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 August 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link

incredible stuff

irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 August 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

xp am i right in thinking that format was one of ed miliband's gestures to the left, making labour a party of the people again etc etc? and what a disaster for the plp that it actually worked

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 20 August 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

I think it was a gesture to the right - there was a panic a few years ago about the influence of unions over the leadership (lol) so they ditched the electoral college and went to one member one vote with union members having to opt in rather than being counted automatically.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 August 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, it was an attempt to placate the right by limiting the power of the unions in the choosing of a leader... blown up in their faces hilariously.

Stupidityness (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 August 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

As someone suggested upthread it is deffo a timely period to re-watch Bleasdale's GBH and it has aged very well.

xelab, Thursday, 20 August 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link


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