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― Mark G, Monday, 17 August 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link
Liz Kendall finds supporter:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/17/david-miliband-electing-jeremy-corbyn-risks-one-party-tory-state
Miliband in favour of two-party Tory state etc.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 August 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link
Weird timing to be backing the 150/1 outsider unless he thinks the leadership contest isn't going to be over when the votes are counted. I'd have thought that whatever marginal influence he has is just going to draw votes away from Burnham and Cooper.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 17 August 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link
think we have to assume at this stage that these idiots really believe in the invisible difference of their preferred advocate of neoliberalism
― the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 August 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link
'draw votes away' doesn't matter that much in the leadership election though - Kendall/Cooper/Burnham/Corbyn and Cooper/Kendall/Burnham/Corbyn are both effective for the ABC crowd.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 August 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link
All this talk about offering policies that are 'financially viable' makes me reach for my
https://img1.etsystatic.com/017/0/6337680/il_570xN.498770417_ki4l.jpg
shirt.
― Mark G, Monday, 17 August 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link
it's like there's a contest to see who can react to corbyn's popularity in the stupidest, most self-defeating way
― transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link
it's like a perfect distillation of the european-wide disconnect between elites and rank-and-file
"no, THIS is what you should think"
― transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Monday, 17 August 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
This is true to some extent but if the best case ABC scenario is Corbyn winning around 45% of the vote and losing on second preferences, for the next leader to have any credibility I think they need to be pulling in something around the upper twenties. I'd have thought picking one of the candidates to rally behind would make more sense than a doomed attempt to make Kendall happen even if it didn't materially affect the outcome when the preferences are tallied.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 17 August 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link
for the next leader to have any credibility
They won't.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 August 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link
Yes, I almost typed "(lol)" after writing that but I guess they have to try. The party is probably doomed either way.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Monday, 17 August 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
I just had a phone call from a man working for Yvette Cooper's campaign asking me if I'd decided who to vote for yet, I told him that I'd already voted and put Corbyn as my first preference. then he asked me who I'd put as my second preference and I told him that I voted for Cooper as my second preference, and he thanked me for the second preference, but I kind of got the impression he thought I was just pretending to have put Cooper as my second preference because I was embarrassed? I was telling the truth, though. anyway, the whole thing was awkward.
― authentic plastic rat (soref), Monday, 17 August 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link
I was kind of worried he was going to shout at me when I told him that I'd voted for Corbyn
― authentic plastic rat (soref), Monday, 17 August 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link
four teenagers on channel 4 news right now, each repping for one of the leadership contenders, Kendall supporter giving some amazing side-eye to the Corbyn supporter
― authentic plastic rat (soref), Monday, 17 August 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
was funny to each of them trotting out their candidate's sound bites
cathy newman is terrible
― conrad, Monday, 17 August 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link
Channel 4 News is terrible.
― Stupidityness (Tom D.), Monday, 17 August 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
http://averypublicsociologist.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/gordon-brown-and-power.html
decent piece that identifies some of the glaring deficiencies in new Labour thinking
― the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 August 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
I know, right? I think the Cooper supporter actually did the 'no good Keynesian would ever call for it' bit from her speech the other day word-for-word
― authentic plastic rat (soref), Monday, 17 August 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link
xp also a reminder that, for all that Blair is the greater evil, it was Brown that came up with "hard working families" as the only unit of political merit.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 August 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link
'British jobs for British workers', another of his greatest hits.
― Stupidityness (Tom D.), Monday, 17 August 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link
He was also responsible for the "Hits Greatest Stiffs" album title. True, dat..
― Mark G, Monday, 17 August 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
lol
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11808589/Yvette-Cooper-Andy-Burnham-is-too-similar-to-Jeremy-Corbyn-and-must-step-aside.html
URL says it all.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 07:24 (eight years ago) link
that sort of comic instinct deserves a place in the spotlight
― the lion tweets tonight (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 07:42 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZsYvkTw4Rg
― stet, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link
work to be proud of, newsnight
― Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
Terry Dicks may have been an awful racist bigot, but at least he wouldn't have put up with crap like this:
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/tory-mp-shelbrooke-vows-to-wear-onesie-for-commons-vote-1-6373367
― authentic plastic rat (soref), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
jeez, didn't realise that Dicks is still alive
― authentic plastic rat (soref), Tuesday, 18 August 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
Purges be happenin'..
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 09:53 (eight years ago) link
Show trials next.
― Stupidityness (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 August 2015 09:54 (eight years ago) link
Peter Mandelson as judge and executioner.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 10:02 (eight years ago) link
Aug 21 1940 - Russian revolutionary Leon Trotsky fatally wounded by Stalinist agent in exile.
Never forget..
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 10:07 (eight years ago) link
Owen Hatherley was rejected as an entryist despite, in his words, never having "been a member of anything other than the NUJ and Crohn's & Colitis Society".
They also managed to block someone who stood for election for them in May.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:08 (eight years ago) link
maybe i'm secluded in my world of entryist people but it does seem that naebdy's getting in
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link
That stable door is well bolted, for sure.
― Stupidityness (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:17 (eight years ago) link
Any journalists looking into rejections, does anyone know?
― emil.y, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link
Some guy on twitter is building a DB to get some numbers etc.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link
Owen Jones & George Monbiot seem to be involved with that too, at least in terms of publicising it.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link
Yeah looks like it will be reported on..
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:02 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, just spotted mention of the guy with the database. Going to pass this info on.
― emil.y, Thursday, 20 August 2015 13:03 (eight years ago) link
http://labouroflatte.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/purge-away.html
http://i.imgur.com/JRDwEap.jpg?1
You too could be called a star by the compliance unit.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 August 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
pay £3 for full stasi privileges
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 20 August 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
they're handling this more clumsily than metallica faced illegal downloading
― Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Thursday, 20 August 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link
Blair-Iraq levels of mishandling imo
― nashwan, Thursday, 20 August 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
wau
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 August 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link
the lack of foresight to allow just anyone to put in a few quid online and then be able to vote in the leadership election, compounded by the heavy-handed and incompetent policing of said campaign really beggars belief.
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 August 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link
incredible stuff
― irl lol (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 August 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link
xp am i right in thinking that format was one of ed miliband's gestures to the left, making labour a party of the people again etc etc? and what a disaster for the plp that it actually worked
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 20 August 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
I think it was a gesture to the right - there was a panic a few years ago about the influence of unions over the leadership (lol) so they ditched the electoral college and went to one member one vote with union members having to opt in rather than being counted automatically.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 August 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, it was an attempt to placate the right by limiting the power of the unions in the choosing of a leader... blown up in their faces hilariously.
― Stupidityness (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 August 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link
As someone suggested upthread it is deffo a timely period to re-watch Bleasdale's GBH and it has aged very well.
― xelab, Thursday, 20 August 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link