Go on then, who do you reckon will win? The Labour Leadership contest, that is...

Any journalists looking into rejections, does anyone know?

Some guy on twitter is building a DB to get some numbers etc.

Owen Jones & George Monbiot seem to be involved with that too, at least in terms of publicising it.

Yeah looks like it will be reported on..

Yeah, just spotted mention of the guy with the database. Going to pass this info on.

http://labouroflatte.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/purge-away.html

http://i.imgur.com/JRDwEap.jpg?1

You too could be called a star by the compliance unit.

pay £3 for full stasi privileges

they're handling this more clumsily than metallica faced illegal downloading

Blair-Iraq levels of mishandling imo

wau

the lack of foresight to allow just anyone to put in a few quid online and then be able to vote in the leadership election, compounded by the heavy-handed and incompetent policing of said campaign really beggars belief.

incredible stuff

xp am i right in thinking that format was one of ed miliband's gestures to the left, making labour a party of the people again etc etc? and what a disaster for the plp that it actually worked

I think it was a gesture to the right - there was a panic a few years ago about the influence of unions over the leadership (lol) so they ditched the electoral college and went to one member one vote with union members having to opt in rather than being counted automatically.

Yeah, it was an attempt to placate the right by limiting the power of the unions in the choosing of a leader... blown up in their faces hilariously.

As someone suggested upthread it is deffo a timely period to re-watch Bleasdale's GBH and it has aged very well.

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The Stalinist bot that runs ILX has blocked that email! :-)

have those voting received their ballot emails yet? i haven't.

lol.

To go back to the thread's initial question, the only person in Labour who looks anything like a winner from this colossal clusterfuck is Chris Mullin, cos A Very British Coup is getting some hustle.

Incidentally, I like to imagine the Compliance Unit calling people 'Star' in Jamaican patois

disagree, Corbyn has played this far better than i expected so far, whatever the outcome

Chris Mullin is a fucking idiot.

:-/ u ok hun?

Corbyn has played this far better than i expected so far, whatever the outcome

I agree. He has done very well. I like that he hasn't got involved in personal sniping with his critics and opponents. But this Iraq war apology thing is a mis-step in my opinion. Not that people mocking him on Twitter for it can hurt him, but such an 'official apology', if enacted, would be the kind of empty gesture or feelgood PR move that I was impressed that he seemed to want to get away from.

kinda want to mail a list of people to that labour address. gerry adams, david cameron, jan moir, john terry.

xp

the apology for the war is part of distancing himself and, if he's leader, the Labour party from the soon-to-be-very-discredited-indeed Blair administration. it might just be for show but it's also a neat reminder that some of his fellow candidates are nicely implicated in that bullshit.

i kinda think it looks bad though, he clearly wasn't responsible. i don't think people are associating it with him.

the apology for the war is part of distancing himself and, if he's leader, the Labour party from the soon-to-be-very-discredited-indeed Blair administration. it might just be for show but it's also a neat reminder that some of his fellow candidates are nicely implicated in that bullshit.

I see what you mean. But needs to be handled carefully so it doesn't seem too sentimental and feelgoody. But do you see Corbyn being able (if he became PM) to extricate Britain from (or lessen) its participation in such wars in the future? Presumably that is what he would want.

i don't see any public appetite for foreign adventures so i don't think it would be hard to refuse any invitations that didn't come through the UN. it's not like we rode into Iraq on a wave of popular jingoism in the first place.

True. There's Islamic State, though. Not sure how that's going to end up. Incidentally, haven't heard much about the main military side of that recently (only the beheading of that archaeologist the other day; and the recent Turkish air attacks).

I think the idea of the apology is fucking sweet, but then I read it as an exercise in rubbing these New Labour cunts noses in it, and I am all about that.

Next step, arrest warrants for Blair, Jack Straw etc etc.

I think the idea of the apology is fucking sweet ... Next step, arrest warrants for Blair, Jack Straw etc etc.

Yes, I'm changing my mind now. Better move than I thought.

I got the email for me to vote a couple of days ago - I think as a 'supporter' I don't get a mail ballot? Was surprised I wasn't rejected tbh - was a member of SSP and various Marxist groups. Never a member of the CP though, which might make the difference.

got mine, it's okay!

i like how everyone's writing these columns about how they're disappointed this nominee for the leadership of a party 5 years away from power at best does not have a committed set of policies that he'd be ready to enact tomorrow

looks like the incident when my brother was tricked&misrepresented into standing as a conservative candidate in a local election (which is obviously the single most hilarious thing that i have ever known to happen) may well prevent him from voting in this

it does seem hard to justify the vague criteria of supporting another political party at any time. they have happily accepted defecting MPs before, allegedly want to win tory votes, but then don't want to let them have a say in anything once they arrive

Xp explain? Hahaha

Yes, this sounds amazing.

They've apparently blocked over 3000 people and there was speculation that they were only 20% of the way through the vetting process a few days ago. It looks like anyone recorded as telling canvassers they weren't voting Labour in May is being automatically struck off the list in some areas. You don't necessarily have to have said you were voting for someone else. In Rochdale, for example, anyone not wishing to vote for the racist clown who holds that seat but who still wants to be part of the Labour party is out - currently 25% of the people who applied to vote.

The papers were hinting that the blocking and vetting is being carried out deliberately in a ridiculous way so that it will inevitably lead to a challenge in the courts or elsewhere, enabling the party apparatchiks to declare the leadership contest void.

xp as you might imagine it's a slightly convoluted story and my favourite thing about it is that however he has tried to explain it the story still makes no sense whatsoever. anyway, I'm by the sea in somerset waiting for a lift to arrive so I'll offer a totally unenligtening overview: he works in a two-person business in a small rural town, and it was relatively early on when he was still on best behaviour, finding his feet, trying to placate his let's say unpredictable boss, and doing his best to make polite conversation with the various local people who would just wander into his office to complain about sheep prices/the government/outsiders, or try to get him to join the rotary club etc.

at the end of a working day one of his boss's associates ('friends' seems like a push for this sort of small town sustained mutual acknowledgement) arrives a little anxious and explains that he's in a tight spot wrt organizing the upcoming local election as he's short of a candidate or two, just a formality you understand, need to make up the numbers but oh, wait a minute, here's a crazy idea, could you do me a big favour and just fill out a form? i happen to have brought one with me. thank you so much. do you have a preference for political party? that's fine I'll just put you down as an independent. you're a life-saver, ok, got to run!

my brother is already quite embarrassed by this turn of events and resolves to forget about it but clearly keeps a vague eye on local news before very coyly telling me a couple of months later "i think i might have stood for election as a conservative" which was naturally the most amazing thing i had ever heard. googled a bit and could only find a few scattered bits of copypasta but they all had him down as a tory, getting about 300 votes for his ward. he remains supremely mortified but I'm sure great political careers have been built on less

That is an amazing story.

i always knew he was an entryist

that's brilliant

the unseemliness of the vetting procedure beggars belief - basically anybody who can be identified as ever having bad-mouthed the party or any of its members, however corrupt, useless or off-message. my radge is gradually turning into amusement as Corbyn's campaign continues undamaged, but the sheer stupid dishonesty and lack of acknowledgement of the Labour party's history as a coalition of leftish interest groups and sub-parties is shocking, whether that lack of acknowledgement is thru ignorance, willful denial or desperate carpetbagging.

i can't think of anybody who's opposed Corbyn publicly who hasn't made themself look like a crook, an idiot or a stooge.

This a very amusing story, but you know the Labour Party did the same thing to my father in the early 70s. He was supposed to be a paper candidate but the story who had won every election for the previous century dropped dead of a heart attack on the eve of the election and my Dad's 300 votes got him elected to the County Council. He ended up serving two terms, the second of which he won in his own right.

So the moral of both stories is, be careful what forms you fill in!

haha wow, how common is this? an interesting insight into hiw much bluff and bluster is required to keep the decorum of local democracy in tact

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3207363/Prime-Minister-Corbyn-1-000-days-destroyed-Britain-brilliant-imagining-Corbyn-premiership-reveals-Tories-gloat-Labour-s-woe-careful-wish-for.html

Swiftian

The "Sorted by best" comment section is interesting, basically "what a load of tripe"