writer-centric films are rarely ever any good. although maybe this one makes a virtue of having an irredeemable asshole as its protagonist, most attempt to make their misanthropes lovable/righteous in some way (Wonder Boys, Adaptation etc.)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
I'll p watch it just cuz I like the cast
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
I was really disappointed by The Color Wheel after hearing a lot of good about it. Listen Up Philip felt immensely big compared to how cheap it obviously has been, with a ton of characters having their stories told - I think Moss' parts are very important as well - and the very good use of analogue feel. Queen on Earth is much smaller in scope as well, and while it's better than The Color Wheel, it feels very typically American indie as well. He is a good stylist, which sets him apart from mumblecore and the like, and means that the sky is kinda the limit when he gets proper funding to do what he likes, but his smaller films feel to small to me. When it comes to creepy psychological horror about women friendships, I prefer something like Josephine Decker's thematically similar Butter on the Latch.
He is pretty 'funny' in person. There was a Q&A after Philip, and he talked about how he couldn't understand why people disliked Philip throughout the film, since he is at his worst to the completely peripheral characters, and why would you care about them? He also got annoyed at me because I laughed when he said he was writing Winnie the Pooh. Didn't mean it negatively, but it's just a funny thing.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
I'm pretty sure i remember him waiting on me at Kim's Video, and absolutely living up to the stereotype there.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
Did Tarantino punch your mom in the boob, Morbs?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 25 August 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
i watched queen of earth, has something in common w enter the void in that its title card is the best thing abt it
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
& truthfully that is too harsh, i didnt hate it but i also didnt think it totally worked. ive seen liz moss enough to know that shes a v good actress so i can only blame the writing, direction, etc for several of her scenes that fell p flat for me
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link
Well, this is speculation, but I'm thinking a lot of the acting seems as if they're improvising, as did a lot of The Color Wheel to me. The acting, including that from Elizabeth Moss, is much more polished in Listen Up Philip, iirc.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link
that could be right idk.. some of the longer monologues have to be scripted i think
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:29 (nine years ago) link
Has anyone seem Impolex? Is it available anywhere?
― calstars, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link
I've seen the other three. Enjoyed Color Wheel and Listen Up immensely, but I think QoE was a major step back.
― calstars, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
Strange comedic horror music moments undercut the drama that was trying to develop
― calstars, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link
i saw Impolex and scratched my head.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 14 December 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
So anyone has new opinions on Queen of Earth? It's doing surprisingly well on end-of-year lists, I think, where I didn't see much of Listen Up Phillip last year.
― Frederik B, Monday, 14 December 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
I preferred a lot about Listen Up Philip but I can see why Queen of Earth would get more love. Polanski vibes really seem to be pushing him outside of his comfort zone.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 05:52 (eight years ago) link
Also it was less up-his-own-ass, unbelievably
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 05:53 (eight years ago) link
Queen of Earth not yet out on disc so haven't seen it.
A.R.P. was sitting in front of me at a Rivette film the other night.
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 December 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
Queen of Earth crumbles in the last third but it's a watchable pastiche if you pretend it's a horror movie. I couldn't figure out who or what Patrick Fugit was playing.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 00:11 (eight years ago) link
I watched Listen Up Philip because of this thread and well, basically, fuck 9 of you. Even as a guy who will watch Schwarzman in just about anything, I couldn't finish it it was so pointless.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 00:15 (eight years ago) link
hated queen of earth so much
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 00:19 (eight years ago) link
for a while I had some hope that it would have a happy ending like Melancholia, but no luck.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 00:20 (eight years ago) link
I watched Listen Up Philip because of this thread and well, basically, fuck 9 of you.
I told you not to! Movies about writers are clueless. An insufferable writer meeting another insufferable writer who says things like “Even looking at the girls here bring a cascade of emotions” and “The answer is at once arrogant and correct."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 00:39 (eight years ago) link
Haha yes
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link
A.R.P. and his cinematographer showing up regularly to the Douglas Sirk retro here
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 05:24 (eight years ago) link
Queen of Earth was watchable but it didn't have enough energy or something between the actors to really get over the hump to compelling.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 6 August 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link
i was really into it while I was watching it, loved the weird tension, the close-ups, and the way the sound design isolated and amplified certain sounds. But later i couldn't shake the feeling that ARP doesn't care even 1% about how mental health struggles play out in the world outside of movies. i say this knowing full well that it makes me a literalist bore calling for him to adopt a Stanley Kramer-esque strained seriousness, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― intheblanks, Saturday, 6 August 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link
Listen Up Philip was painful. I turned it off after 30 minutes. NY literary types being hateful and cunty blah blah blah
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link
Kinda agree, but still his best. The grainy images were wonderful.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 21:46 (eight years ago) link
I liked it more than Queen of Earth but I definitely don't need to see another movie by this guy
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link
He should do a sequel to the color wheel
― calstars, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 22:36 (eight years ago) link
I kinda want to see his Winnie the Pooh movie. Also, he's films will only ever be festival features in Scandinavia, so I'll probably check them out if there's free time in my schedule. I'm not a particularly big fan, but he's ok, and I like keeping up with directors.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 11 August 2016 10:17 (eight years ago) link
The film reminded me of Greenberg but the characters in LUP were barely credible cardboard cutouts. Also for two writers, Pryce and Schwartzmann's characters never talked about their own writing or anyone elses
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Thursday, 11 August 2016 12:02 (eight years ago) link
on his new ensemble film, Golden Exits, at Sundance (headed by Adam Horovitz and Chloë Sevigny)
http://www.filmcomment.com/blog/interview-alex-ross-perry/
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 January 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link
Queen of Earth was tone-deaf about mental illness. I liked Listen Up, Philip though.
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Sunday, 29 January 2017 22:57 (seven years ago) link
saw GOLDEN EXITS just now and really loved it. I've been curious about this guy for a while and I need to check out his other movies ASAP. this seems like a minor work maybe - very quiet, contemplative, with a skeletal story that might be all too familiar to some, but man, something about it just caught me. It looks beautiful too, wish I could've stuck around for the Q&A with Perry and his DP. super saturated and grainy, just gorgeous.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 6 May 2017 04:45 (seven years ago) link
encouraging words
Her Smell strays noticeably outside of ARP’s normal comfort zone, in which people are reflexively, casually bruising and vicious to each other, superficially buttressing their uncalled-for hostility with an arsenal of choice words.
https://filmmakermagazine.com/105867-tiff-2018-critics-notebook-5-her-smell-rojo-a-faithful-man/#.W5f-SKknZBw
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 17:46 (six years ago) link
yeah I've really soured on this guy, and I think the title of his new movie is hilarious.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 22:47 (six years ago) link
ugh, no more rock movies
the first 3 of the 5 acts are an endurance test
Raging Bull w/ Courtney Love archetype
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 September 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
Listen Up Philip was quite an endurance test
― . (Michael B), Sunday, 30 September 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
of course i dislike Opening Night too
https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5955-alex-ross-perry-s-her-smell
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 October 2018 11:57 (five years ago) link
queen of earth was so terrible
― ritual showdown (Ross), Monday, 1 October 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
the rants Moss directs at her band sound like... Murry Wilson
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 October 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link
Watched a 90-second clip on YouTube and based on that I’d want about $100 a minute to watch any more.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 4 October 2018 02:07 (five years ago) link
you'll miss her solo piano Bryan Adams cover, then
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 October 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link
holy shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoRVcsAEt0w
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 4 October 2018 03:00 (five years ago) link
I’d watch e moss in just about anything
― calstars, Thursday, 4 October 2018 07:53 (five years ago) link
she said this was her first singing role since... and someone in the Lincoln Center audience yelled "Frosty Returns!"
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 October 2018 11:31 (five years ago) link
Deep cut wow.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 4 October 2018 11:54 (five years ago) link
<I>Her Smell</I> made me ask: is there a worse working filmmaker than Alex Ross Perry?
― flappy bird, Monday, 22 April 2019 03:59 (five years ago) link
he's so bad, he made me forget we use BBcode here
I've only seen Golden Exits and Her Smell, but I'm putting a priority on watching the rest of his films asap to confirm my theory.
so much wrong in Her Smell but main problem is one that fells most fictional rock band movies: the music isn't there. the songs are why we care about people like Courtney Love and Kurt Cobain and Bowie. without the music, we're left with a bunch of trim and nothing to hang it on. it's why Velvet Goldmine and Last Days suck, and I'm Not There is amazing. even something like Walk the Line gets by because the songs are there.
― flappy bird, Monday, 22 April 2019 04:08 (five years ago) link
Subbing the Roxy songs for Bowie's in Velvet Goldmine was a slick move imo.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 April 2019 05:16 (five years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwKkmGCBLg4/
I saw this on Insta when I was baked and laughed for 20 minutes.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 April 2019 05:52 (five years ago) link
Anika Pyle of Katie Ellen and Alicia Bognanno from Bully wrote some of the music so I had hopes for that.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 April 2019 05:55 (five years ago) link
So did I, I don't know them but my brother is a big fan, and he was taken aback by how bad / completely anonymous, almost algorithmically generated the songs were.
― flappy bird, Monday, 22 April 2019 06:08 (five years ago) link
Moss looks like she picked up a guitar for the first time a few weeks before shooting started. Her right hand is way out of position
― calstars, Monday, 22 April 2019 13:03 (five years ago) link
No one knows how to play guitar in this movie
― flappy bird, Monday, 22 April 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link
he moves into Stephen Kingland
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/alex-ross-perry-stephen-king-rest-stop-1203192545/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 May 2019 11:30 (five years ago) link
also he is making me pro-bully
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/05/alex-ross-perry-avengers-endgame-oscar-best-picture-1202130965/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 May 2019 11:35 (five years ago) link
Like you weren't already.
― zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Monday, 6 May 2019 12:56 (five years ago) link
Not until the last drugstore has sold its last pill.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2019 13:02 (five years ago) link
What a godawful piece.
― jmm, Monday, 6 May 2019 13:06 (five years ago) link
xp After all, you didn't personally drain the gasoline out of the tank...
― zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Monday, 6 May 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link
This is the most ghoulish conversation!
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2019 13:19 (five years ago) link
So unlike (apparently) a lot of people, I actively root for Disney’s success. I am really intrigued that Disney bought Fox. I am eager to see how many of the top 10 grossing films of the year Disney puts out. I have a lot of friends there at the executive and producer level, and I want the best for them.
Fuck you!
― flappy bird, Monday, 6 May 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link
I can get behind a defense of Avengers as a work of art that deserves the BP Oscar, but being "intrigued" by Disney acquiring Fox? this guy is a fucking idiot
― flappy bird, Monday, 6 May 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords
― zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Monday, 6 May 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link
If you don't support Disney's total monopolistic domination, it's bullying.
― jmm, Monday, 6 May 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link
the way of all Kim's Video employees
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 May 2019 17:54 (five years ago) link
When people dismissively bemoan “the state of things” culturally and use Marvel/Disney dominance as their primary target, all I can see is a square, flat-topped father drinking a beer in a barca lounger while the game is on, telling his son to quit playing guitar/painting/writing/reading comic books/daydreaming and get a real job.
Oh my god, we don't live in a binary of SPORTS vs. NERDS!
― flappy bird, Monday, 6 May 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link
he's from Bryn Mawr so
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 May 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link
An eloquent defense of those quirky, subversive, creative, outside-the-mainstream Marvel films that so many squares want to ban
― One Eye Open, Monday, 6 May 2019 19:07 (five years ago) link
it's more like the SPORTS guys took the NERDS' stuff and made a bajillion dollars out of it
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 May 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
This guy is not making a good case for my checking out one of his movies. Nor is titling one of them Her Smell.
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Monday, 6 May 2019 19:13 (five years ago) link
the title is the only good thing about it
― flappy bird, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link
Her smell is the first one of his I have no desire to see. Maybe because the story seems so familiar and I don’t buy e Moss in this role
― calstars, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link
Didn't Juliette Lewis basically make this same movie 10 years ago?
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:25 (five years ago) link
that indiewire piece reads like a poorly executed satire of film popism
― maura, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
Tarantino is awful but having read this I have to take issue with the thread title
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 6 May 2019 22:36 (five years ago) link
Heard a number of variations of this argument IRL this past weekend from otherwise-reasonable people and they honestly made me sad.
It’s hard for me to empathize with the person who feels lost in a world where the biggest show in the history of television stars dragons
― One Eye Open, Monday, 6 May 2019 23:48 (five years ago) link
a dominant group obsessed with its own imagined victimhood? how weird
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 6 May 2019 23:56 (five years ago) link
avengers: ressentiment
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 6 May 2019 23:58 (five years ago) link
I watched Her Smell on Kanopy and -- while I agree it was probably not a film that needed to be made -- I cried! I think it paints a portrait of a person who people can easily write off as a monster as a real person. I'm sure it could have been BETTER but that doesn't usually determine whether or not I liked a movie. I found it scary and emotionally resonant (when she's singing to her kid? cmon that's touching) and my only real complaint is that I couldn't hear the dialogue very well because everyone is hissing at each other through the first hour and there's tons of noise from the noisy club (as there often is). I also thought Virginia Madsen was really good as the mom. Dan Stevens was uninspiring as the former husband and Eric Stoltz is as creepy as he always is.
I have yet to determine why it's called Her Smell but I kind of like the title. The band name leaves something to be desired but I like the idea of a movie about Her Smell.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 7 July 2019 00:35 (five years ago) link
Listen Up, Philip is unwatchable except for Elisabeth Moss.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 22 July 2019 02:08 (five years ago) link