there were like 57 springsteen montages in eps 3 and 4! "secret garden" was an odd choice.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:46 (nine years ago) link
i also wish the project residents were given more depth, but this
The 47-year-old woman with eye problems aside, they all come across more like wet blankets than real people in need
― Evan R, Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
does not seem true to me. for one thing i kind of hate the teenage girl who got pregnant and then her boyfriend got arrested. she's a p fucking realistic teenager afaic.
also the dominican mom running onto the plane chute thingy to greet her kids!
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
yeah i kinda like the ppl
i also really love that they're all women. contrasts with all the white men in the council chambers deciding their fates
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:08 (nine years ago) link
for one thing i kind of hate the teenage girl who got pregnant and then her boyfriend got arrested. she's a p fucking realistic teenager afaic.
yea i like this plotline
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link
did you guys catch Namond from the Wire as the bored caseworker for the crack mom? took me a minute
i really like that character, even though the crack turn felt a bit paint by numbers. but her relationship with her boyfriend before he died was so cute & real, and that scene with her dad buying her groceries was so sad
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:14 (nine years ago) link
OMG YES NAMOND! i had a really intense i know that kid reaction to that actor's face and then when i realized it was namond i kind of flipped the fuck out. wire season four kids, man. i feel like they're real.
yeah the junkie mom storyline is heartbreaking. i get really vocal when she's onscreen, like call your dad! or the scene when he finds the drugs at her house i was yelling, "take her with you!"
― horseshoe, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:16 (nine years ago) link
also i liked the scene between the dominican mom and her boss's wife
― horseshoe, Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link
yeah dominican mom gets to me, such a rough life
and she looks like coco from fame <3
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 August 2015 00:32 (nine years ago) link
finally got to ep 3 and def think it's getting better
― keep clams and jive on (man alive), Saturday, 29 August 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link
goddamnit I knew right away it was a bad idea to leak the poll numbers!
― keep clams and jive on (man alive), Saturday, 29 August 2015 03:08 (nine years ago) link
I was psyched to hear a snatch of Rollin With Kid n Play in one of the project scenes
― keep clams and jive on (man alive), Sunday, 30 August 2015 03:40 (nine years ago) link
kid w/ poodle lady scene was v nice
― johnny crunch, Monday, 31 August 2015 11:26 (nine years ago) link
so sad. Nay is the cutest
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 31 August 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
y'all spot Orlando from the wire?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 31 August 2015 15:27 (nine years ago) link
I feel like aside from actors there has kinda been some wire fan bait in this show -- the pager in the opening sequence, and then "re-up" and "fucked up the count" turning up early in the first ep. I don't know if that's some kind of hackneyed, meta statement about the game not changing from place to place and time to time, but it's dumb.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 31 August 2015 15:29 (nine years ago) link
...i think the pager is bc its the 80s and the slang is because that slang (maybe not reup specifically but definitely "the count") is bc its the 80s
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
Lotta hackneyed dialogue in the final two. Felt especially lecture-y. Still liked the series overall, but my wife and I were giving each other "we get it" looks all through the episode.
― schwantz, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
i havent read the book, but i get the impression that the story a book is able to tell--the level of detail and digression and backstory--makes for a much richer experience than the condensed, yes rather lecture-y but even worse sorta dramatically inert, narrative television show that this became.
― ryan, Monday, 31 August 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
I don't like Paul Haggis but I also think the story just doesn't make great drama without a lot of license being taken, and I do think they do a good job of trying to stick to a fair and factual retelling of what happened. The project character narratives get a little more interesting than they start out, but still have a b-level TV movie feel to them. Telling the story of a housing ordinance is kind of a novel idea, but telling the story of the struggles of certain poor and working class people as a mere vehicle for showing what the purpose of the housing was is kind of flat. Immigrant mother not sure whether it's better here or back in DR, daughter from good parents struggling with drug addiction to disappointment of dad, etc., all stories told many times, not that they can't be told richly, like any one of the characters could be the subject of a well-done movie, but here they don't develop too far beyond being types.
I enjoy the way each successive mayor gets elected by promising the same thing and then gets voted out for failing to deliver the same promised thing (I haven't watched the end yet, but Spallone was also a one-term mayor for the same reason as his predecessors).
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 31 August 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link
this was outstanding
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link
I watched pt 5 last night, will finish pt 6 tonight
Guys, I know it's a bit heavy handed & corny in places but I love this. I loved the lottery and the bus ride to see the new houses & just...idk....these pencil sketches of people's lives, it's really moving
When the crack mom starts her first tenant's meeting with her dream of daycare and the young woman goes in hard about her drain being clogged and she just dies a little on the spot...it was so small but it just felt so true & real
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
and the blind woman "look what you've done with your meddling"
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
these pencil sketches of people's lives, it's really moving
otm
finished it yday...ultimately think it's pretty great, possibly the best non-wire david simon project altho neck and neck w/ generation kill for that honor
VG idk if you know historically what the ending is but if not, steel yrself its rough
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link
(i didnt know bc i was six weeks to six years old during the 87-93 time span of this series, deliberately avoided wikipedia-ing)
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
i already knew going in :(
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
9/11 happens at the end
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link
unorthodox rezoning technique
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link
it's what happens when the liberals win, truly tragic
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
thats what reagan warned us about isnt it, shit
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
Also Omar shows up, and then dies.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
Then Longo has several councilmen killed off, dissolves the municipal government, and crowns himself emperor, presiding over 30 years of darkness.
― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
nulty faked the whole thing
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
this is still sitting on my dvr but there was a good men in blazers w/ simon this week
― balls, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
great final ep but ughhhhhhh so sad
wasicsko's sobbing breakdown :/
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 03:46 (nine years ago) link
i thought for a moment they wouldnt show it but then
i cried for 20 solid minutes
― sarahell, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 06:43 (nine years ago) link
yeah it was rough :(
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
Slayed me.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
can we get Oscar an Emmy plz thx
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link
i hadnt really thought about it til now but those hallucinations of nick's dad leaning against the tree made him look kinda distant & disapproving...even though nick clearly idolized him maybe that was the empty hole that he was trying to fill with votes/approval etc
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
i am still really sad about nick waciscko
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
this show ruined my life, basically
this thread is now for holding hands quietly staring out a window & sighing
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
*sigh*
i turned to my husband this morning and was like, "i'm so sad about nick waciscko" and he was like, "still?" he has no soul.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
oscar isaac is really something
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
and he really did kill himself in the cemetery, i thought it was maybe a dramatic element but ughhhhhh
so sad
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link
http://i.lv3.hbo.com/assets/images/series/show-me-a-hero/homepage/2015/august/150824-ep04-nick-outside-1024.jpg
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 September 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
;_;
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link
I think an emmy nom has to be a given for isaac